He is moving perfectly with no sign of struggle. He does not look physically inhibited at all. You dont mysteriously get much better out of nowhere.
Tsonga vs Nadal - 3rd round
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He is moving perfectly with no sign of struggle. He does not look physically inhibited at all. You dont mysteriously get much better out of nowhere.
Not without a laser dottore.
I hope you are being sarcastic. If you really think that mysteriously changes everything to this extent then you are crazy. The results of my poll so far indicate how many are giving him the benefit of the doubt. Not many as of yet.
MoFed
Semi-Pro
I think it is still possible that Nadal is injured, somewhat. I think you will see a bit more of a problem when he plays a player that is able to move him around a bit. Nadal is also going for broke on his shots. We'll see against Ferrer. I hope it's a night match so I can watch it live.
T
TennisandMusic
Guest
Wow some people are bitter...so let's see...Nadal plays terribly, can't move, and mentions the knees. The next match he looks better. He explains the therapy (laser therapy DOES work by the way) and says he hopes to be even better for his next match. He plays again and people say he looks much more like his normal self.
If this doesn't sound like a reasonable time line of events I don't know what to say. What could Nadal possibly gain from slowly playing better and explaining he is getting therapy? How is that gamesmanship? It's not like he comes out hobbled looking then starts sprinting at the beginning of the match. And even so, it's up to the other player to play his best.
I can't think of any reason people would be getting upset aside from pure hatred for Nadal and disappointment that he is winning so far.
If this doesn't sound like a reasonable time line of events I don't know what to say. What could Nadal possibly gain from slowly playing better and explaining he is getting therapy? How is that gamesmanship? It's not like he comes out hobbled looking then starts sprinting at the beginning of the match. And even so, it's up to the other player to play his best.
I can't think of any reason people would be getting upset aside from pure hatred for Nadal and disappointment that he is winning so far.
BigServer1
Legend
I don't think he's faking his injury, but Nadal does look totally different from how he looked on Wednesday. During that match with Alun Jones, Nadal looked like he wanted to die. He got lucky though, as Tipsaravic played badly and retired and now Tsonga really struggled to do anything after the first set. Also, David Ferrer will be exhausted on Tuesday for the R16 match after playing 5 sets with Nalbandian. The rest of the bottom half sucks except for Djokovic, who Nadal will play in the semis. I mean, Nadal could play Ginepri in the QF...Talk about a cake walk. It looks like Nadal will again improve his results at the USO, even though he's not 100%.
grafrules
Banned
I agree with those of you who say Nadal was faking his injury all along. Back when Steffi Graf had alot of injuries they were real injuries. She did not invent things. She had class and sportsmanship unlike Nadal however. She was above faking injury. He could learn something from a real champion like her.
BigServer1
Legend
That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard for a while. Nadal, at 21 no less, is a real champion. Look at the respect he has for his fellow players. He has some knee trouble but is getting treated and getting better. Don't fabricate things that make you sound uninformed and frankly, very stupid.
skip1969
G.O.A.T.
i'm no huge nadal fan but i don't question what the players say about their bodies. someone pointed out that nadal isn't (techincally) playing injured, but is playing with tendinitis. but whatever the case, he's winning his matches and that's all that matters. people on the board like to make excuses for the players when they advance, even though the players never do. all they care about is getting to the next round, however it happens.
draws, defaults, walkovers, luck . . . what does it matter? you win, you play on. period. if someone in nadal's half wants to run him around like a duck in a shooting gallery and kick the crap out of him . . . be my guest. until then, he's still in the tourney with a shot.
draws, defaults, walkovers, luck . . . what does it matter? you win, you play on. period. if someone in nadal's half wants to run him around like a duck in a shooting gallery and kick the crap out of him . . . be my guest. until then, he's still in the tourney with a shot.
grafrules
Banned
Obviously a Nadal lover. Expected response, YAWWNN!
BigServer1
Legend
Wow. Again, you show how little you know. I am a huge Federer fan, but I respect Nadal. You on the other hand, are some fan boy joke. Maybe you should read some posts on the board before you mouth off about stuff you clearly don't know.
grafrules
Banned
Sorry fool I am not a fan of either Nadal or Federer. I am a fan of tennis in general and I am not impressed with fakers and cheats. You obviously are being a Nadal loverboy probably. I am not going to waste my time continuing to talk with a lesser intellect like yourself. Have a good day.
Seems reasonable to me.
BigServer1
Legend
Well, with a name like Grafrules, you seem like a fan boy to me. Furthermore, how can you call me a lesser intellect, when you wrote earlier: "You are obviously are being a Nadal loverboy probably." Why don't you go to school and get an education, rather than wasting everyone's time here. By the way, ask the Nadal fans on this board where my views are on Nadal. I respect him, but I'm a Federer guy. Thanks for trying to rile me up though, you'll be banned in no time.
Breaker
Legend
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=154607
Anyone feel free to vote in my poll of whether Nadal is faking or not. I am very interested in seeing how others feel on the matter.
Anyone feel free to vote in my poll of whether Nadal is faking or not. I am very interested in seeing how others feel on the matter.
Tendonitis is an injury mostly sustained in athletes by high strains over prolonged periods of time but if it's mild a player can continue to perform at a high level. Quality treatment is necessary after play - something Nadal of course does. If it's left untreated however, or the player pushes too much it can develop in to a very serious and chronic condition.
tlm
G.O.A.T.
How many here said Nadal would be lucky to win a set? The same nadal haters with thier constant ********, it is always so funny how these same clowns can keep making these stupid predictions.
Go back the last couple of years + check how many times the nadal haters are wrong time after time.But it doent stop them from sticking thier foot in thier mouths over+over.Dont you boys get tired of looking like idiots over+over+over+over+over again!!!!!!!!
Hah Hah, keep up the good predictions fools, let me guess nadal wil be lucky to win a set in his next match.Go ahead who will be the first idiot to make that statement, hah hah hah.
Go back the last couple of years + check how many times the nadal haters are wrong time after time.But it doent stop them from sticking thier foot in thier mouths over+over.Dont you boys get tired of looking like idiots over+over+over+over+over again!!!!!!!!
Hah Hah, keep up the good predictions fools, let me guess nadal wil be lucky to win a set in his next match.Go ahead who will be the first idiot to make that statement, hah hah hah.
BigServer1
Legend
Come on man, trolls will be trolls. The Nadal haters that predict him to lose are no different than the Fed haters that say he'll lose every match (see MasterBS and Fedace). Regardless, Nadal looks a lot better and he has a really nice road to the Semi-Finals (at least) hopefully ahead of him.
Thor
Professional
Neither Nadal nor Djokovic are in the semis,they have a long way to go.
Djoko is up against JMDP next
Ambivalent
Hall of Fame
Why would Nadal fake injury? What good would it have done him? Maybe 2 seconds of sympathy from Tsonga, and then upon realizing he's still Nadal, all that sympathy vanishes?
TacoBellBorderBowl1946
Professional
who the hell cares if Nadal is faking or not, bottomline is he's kicking some *** and will go to the US Open Final.
I hate when everyone downplays everything he does (he was lucky to get into TWO Wimbledon finals, his body will break down, win something other than the French Open, he has an easy draw, etc.). Give him credit for what he does on the court, instead you guys are just looking for excuses for why he's winning.
He will prove all you haters wrong again, keep doubting him.
I hate when everyone downplays everything he does (he was lucky to get into TWO Wimbledon finals, his body will break down, win something other than the French Open, he has an easy draw, etc.). Give him credit for what he does on the court, instead you guys are just looking for excuses for why he's winning.
He will prove all you haters wrong again, keep doubting him.
grafrules
Banned
The same reason for why Navratilova (wrongly)accused Graf of faking injury at the Wimbledon of 1996. Navratilova at the time worried about Graf possibly closing in on her Wimbledon record said that it was just an excuse in case Graf lost, and suggested she was not really injured. The same would apply to Nadal, he knows he is vurnerable on hard courts, so has his excuse ready if he does lose. Except unlike Graf who really was injured, his injury is a sham. Graf had too much class to fake injuries the way a manipulator and kid without like Nadal does.
grafrules
Banned
So what are you saying, you see nothing wrong with a player faking an injury if that is what he is doing? You see nothing wrong with a player using that kind of gamesmanship.
Fedace
Banned
I just do not see any opponent in the draw that can beat rafa or Djoko prior to the semis, much like Roddick and Blake has not even a prayer of beating federer.:sad:
BigServer1
Legend
You have no idea if he's faking it or not. Just like you have no idea whether or not Graf was really injured in 1996. You really know nothing at all, and it shows.
T
TennisandMusic
Guest
Except for the fact that Nadal doesn't MAKE excuses. Even though he blew this years Wimbledon final he gave Roger all the credit and said the one who had to win, won...
Roger_Federer.
Semi-Pro
Can't you shut up until Nadal is proven not to be injured. Don't just come here and give dumb conspiracy theories.
Roger_Federer.
Semi-Pro
Coming from someone who's name is Grafrules, that answer is definately not biased.
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BigServer1
Legend
The funniest thing was when he called me a Nadal fan boy of inferior intelligence. That cracked me up.
Roger_Federer.
Semi-Pro
I hate trolls who call other people trolls.
Fedace
Banned
I will give my testimony to this argument. I have this same injury that nadal has. It is very unpredictable. I can play just fine one day with some anti-inflammatories and i cannot even go more than 4 games on one other day. I have not played any singles tournament due to this injury for last 2 years. The pain can come back any moment, but more stress you put on it the worse it gets. When the pain comes back, it feels like knife stabbing into your knees. But when pain goes away, it is not all that bad. Tape has to be very tight just below the knee cap, and if not done properly, it can cut off the circulation. but i am sure ATP trainers are doing a good job, i hope.
Thor
Professional
i Think JMDP has a chance,and Moya beat him just a couple of weks ago.
Nadal has Ferrer who picked up his game,and on harcourts this isnt a walkover,but if he goes past him then the quarters should be easier.
Fedace
Banned
Ok, Moya beat up on Djoko that was completely worn out and tired and Ferrer has mental block against nadal, they are both spanierds and Nadal beats up on Ferrer all the time from what i read in the past. Ferrer is like Nadal's pigeon.
grafrules
Banned
Why do you think Nadal will have a hard time though:
1)He is not injured at all, as it is pretty clear by now the injury was a fake. So invented injury is no factor.
2)Nadal has won all their matches easily except one match on clay, and that was 2 years ago and in a best 2-of-3.
3)The Spanish players are all weaker then Nadal who is the best spanish player obviously. However they also dont give their max against him as there is a mental thing about the lead Spaniard, similar to how Russian girls play against Maria. To some extent I think when there is a strong country with many good players people defer to that person similar to how Russian girls defer to Maria.
4)Ferrer is also not a hard court player relatively speaking just like Nadal. Both like clay most so there is no surface advantage for Ferrer.
Breaker
Legend
Reposting what I wrote in another thread...
He is not faking, Lleyton Hewitt played with the very same injury last year and made the quarters, only really losing his edge after a grueling five setter with Gasquet. If Rafa has a tough match the injury will become much more apparent, also, after the Open don't expect Nadal to play Madrid. It would be very surprising if he would risk further injury there.
grafrules
Banned
I wonder what you will then say when Nadal plays Madrid.
M
Morrissey
Guest
I'm in Poland with my wife on vacation catching the Open on Eurosport and I decided to check out the board after a while and I just had to chime in on this. Nadal IS injured but it's something that he can deal with if he keeps his matches short and doesn't put himself through too much stress. At least by his standards. I believe he's being more aggressive and is going for more which is a great thing because that is also the way to succeed on hardcourts.
I think most of the hatred and doubting from the Nadal haters in here is mainly the fact that they know he's injured and are just pouncing at the opportunity of him losing early here. But he keeps winning which just drives them nuts because he does it at less than 100%. I agree with your post completely. As for grafrules, federerfanatic has brought out a new name to knock Nadal in. I guess he saw the jig was up as capriatifanatic and navratilovafan. As for Nadal's chances? They went up for sure, he's got some confidence built up and he's playing someone with no real weapons in Ferrer who just came off a long 5 set match. Nadal looks good through to the SF. If his knee doesn't flare up only Joker can stand in his way to the final. Youzhny is long gone.
BigServer1
Legend
Great post Morrissey, I agree with you completely. I wouldn't bet on Nadal to win the tournament no matter what the stakes, but to see him still in right now is amazing. Couple that with the fact that his draw completely opened up and he has a good shot to make the finals. If Djokovic plays another long match he could pull a Wimbledon and retire in the semis. All Nadal has to do is get there. WTF is up with Grafrules? He called ME a Nadal fan boy. You know me well enough to refute that, lol. I called Nadal a champion who isn't faking an injury and all of a sudden I'm an idiot fan boy. Anyway, nice to see you back for a bit, how's Poland?
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