What do you think?

[wings56]

A couple scenarios here. I've emailed a league coordinator, so we will know soon enough. What do YOU think?

Scenario 1. John Smith qualifies for PNW sectionals on his 4.0 and 4.5 team. He decides to play with his 4.5 team at Sectionals and they lose in the Semi-Finals. His 4.0 team goes on to win Sectionals to Advance to Nationals. Is John able to rejoin his 4.0 team at Nationals?

Scenario 2. John Smith qualifies for PNW Sectionals and Inter-Mountain Sectionals at the 4.5 level. He is able to play matches in both sections due to his business travel. He plays with PNW at Sectionals and loses in round Robin play. His Inter-Mountain team wins Sectionals to advance to Nationals. Is he able to play with Inter-Mountain at Nationals?

 

[wings56]

@schmke Thoughts? Heard of this?

 

[4.0player4life]

It is my understanding that you couldn't pull off either scenario. You may only play on one team advancing to championships in that certain league for that year. Whether it's different levels or sections or cities doesn't matter. Once you play in any sort of playoffs for one team, you can't do it for any others.

 

[Deleted member 23235]

My guess:
Scenario1 is ok... as the 4.0 interests don't conflict with 4.5 interests
Scenario2 doesn't seem possible... eg. once you pick a team (at the level where they play each other) you need live/die by that team.

 

[therecanbeonlyone]

My understanding is that he is able to play with all of those teams. The way i have heard it explained, you have to pick one team per playoff level. So he can pick team A for Sectionals, and then go to Nationals with team B. I was on two teams that both qualified for states and ended up meeting in the finals of states. It seemed like common knowledge among everyone there that no matter the result of that match, i could go to sectionals with either team (it turns out the team I was playing for during that tournament won the title, so i didn't get to test that theory in practice).

 

[schmke]

My understanding is that he is able to play with all of those teams. The way i have heard it explained, you have to pick one team per playoff level. So he can pick team A for Sectionals, and then go to Nationals with team B. I was on two teams that both qualified for states and ended up meeting in the finals of states. It seemed like common knowledge among everyone there that no matter the result of that match, i could go to sectionals with either team (it turns out the team I was playing for during that tournament won the title, so i didn't get to test that theory in practice).

I believe this is correct. I am not aware of anything precluding a player from playing the same Sectionals at different levels, or two different Sectionals at the same level. You simply cannot be part of two teams at the same level at the same playoffs. Perhaps some sections have more restrictive rules, but I don't know that National has anything not allowing both scenarios.

 

[brettatk]

I think he's allowed to play in both scenarios.

 

[gmatheis]

I also believe he will be able to play at nationals in both scenarios.

 

[4.0player4life]

http://assets.usta.com/assets/642/15/TX_2015_League_Operating_procedures.pdf

This is the Texas section rules, but #6 seems like it applies to scenario #1, and somewhat scenario #2.

 

[gmatheis]

I believe this is correct. I am not aware of anything precluding a player from playing the same Sectionals at different levels, or two different Sectionals at the same level. You simply cannot be part of two teams at the same level at the same playoffs. Perhaps some sections have more restrictive rules, but I don't know that National has anything not allowing both scenarios.

Actually they do (or did) have rules about only being able to play on one team per age group per state championship ... And sectionals was even more restrictive about having multiple teams at sectionals.

But I don't believe the team you decide to play for prevents you from playing on the team you did not play for should that team advance to the next level.

 

[schmke]

Actually they do (or did) have rules about only being able to play on one team per age group per state championship ... And sectionals was even more restrictive about having multiple teams at sectionals.

But I don't believe the team you decide to play for prevents you from playing on the team you did not play for should that team advance to the next level.

Yeah, this is where sections can have their own rules, and some do. But PNW allows playing two levels at the same sections so scenario #1 is ok. And there is nothing in National regs keeping you from playing in playoffs in different sections, so #2 is fine too.

 

[wings56]

Per league coordinator, the player could play the national championships in both scenarios regardless of who they played with in sectionals.

 

[Jim A]

Not sure on each Intermountain group but some states have rules on only playing on one level and team. Ie in Denver you cannot play 3.5 and 4.0 or on 3.5 teams in different groups of the state.