What is the closest possible finish for 2014?

[McEnroeisanartist]

I was wondering what is the closest possible finish in 2014?

As it stands today, Federer has 8520 points and Djokovic has 9010 points.

If Federer won Paris (1,000 points), Won the Year End Finals with two round robin losses (1,100 points), doesn't win a Davis Cup match, wouldn't he finish the year with 10,620 points?

If Djokovic lost in the final of Paris (600 points), lost in the final of the Year End finals - undefeated in round robin (1,000 points), wouldn't he finish the year with 10,610 points?

Another interesting scenario would be if both lost in the semifinals of Paris (360 points), Federer won the Year End Finals with one round robin loss (1,300), Djokovic lost in the final of the Year End Finals - undefeated in round robin (1,000 points), and Federer won two Davis Cup matches (225 points). Then I think it would be Federer with 10,405 points and Djokovic with 10,370 points.

 

[Djokovic2011]

You have waaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands mate.

 

[easywin]

You have waaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands mate.

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[InvisibleSoul]

I was wondering what is the closest possible finish in 2014?

As it stands today, Federer has 8520 points and Djokovic has 9010 points.

If Federer won Paris (1,000 points), Won the Year End Finals with two round robin losses (1,100 points), doesn't win a Davis Cup match, wouldn't he finish the year with 10,620 points?

If Djokovic lost in the final of Paris (600 points), lost in the final of the Year End finals - undefeated in round robin (1,000 points), wouldn't he finish the year with 10,610 points?

There are several possible scenarios that end up with Federer winning by exactly 10 points. The one you have above is one of the more complicated ones.

It can be as simple as:

Djokovic and Federer both lose in the same round of Paris, semifinals or earlier, and Federer does not win any Davis Cup matches. Federer goes into WTF still 490 points behind. Djokovic and Federer lose the same number of round robin matches, and then play each other in the finals, where Federer wins. That nets him 500 points more than Djokovic, meaning he wins the season by 10 points.

 

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There are several possible scenarios that end up with Federer winning by exactly 10 points. The one you have above is one of the more complicated ones.



It can be as simple as:



Djokovic and Federer both lose in the same round of Paris, semifinals or earlier, and Federer does not win any Davis Cup matches. Federer goes into WTF still 490 points behind. Djokovic and Federer lose the same number of round robin matches, and then play each other in the finals, where Federer wins. That nets him 500 points more than Djokovic, meaning he wins the season by 10 points.

Exciting stuff, we are gong to be on tenterhooks the next few days bar an early Federer upset I guess?

 

[Gary Duane]

Exciting stuff, we are gong to be on tenterhooks the next few days bar an early Federer upset I guess?

Funny, I have heard "tender" hooks my entire life, never knew the correct spelling.

 

[Netspirit]

I guess the biggest difference is if Djokovic does not show up to play in Paris or WTF, and Federer wins both the tournaments plus DC.

...And still there will be people on these boards questioning his #1 - any doubts about that? )

 

[underground]

I was wondering what is the closest possible finish in 2014?

As it stands today, Federer has 8520 points and Djokovic has 9010 points.

If Federer won Paris (1,000 points), Won the Year End Finals with two round robin losses (1,100 points), doesn't win a Davis Cup match, wouldn't he finish the year with 10,620 points?

If Djokovic lost in the final of Paris (600 points), lost in the final of the Year End finals - undefeated in round robin (1,000 points), wouldn't he finish the year with 10,610 points?

Surely that means Djokovic would end up 1st in his group and Federer 2nd, so therefore they'll meet in the SF deeming this situation impossible?

 

[tennisaddict]

I see Fed making at least SF with mostly 3 RR wins at WTF. Hard to see him lose to any one other than Novak there.

No Tsonga, Delpo. Berdych in this kind of form not beating Fed.

 

[Djokovic2011]

I see Fed making at least SF with mostly 3 RR wins at WTF. Hard to see him lose to any one other than Novak there.

No Tsonga, Delpo. Berdych in this kind of form not beating Fed.

Hasn't stopped him before.

 

[tennisaddict]

Hasn't stopped him before.

Berdych on song is a beast.

I dont know if you have watched 2011 Cincinnati Berdych-Fed match.

It was like the 2014 Cilic Fed SF. Fed barely had any answer.

 

[tennisaddict]

I wouldn't want neither Fed nor Novak to lose the YE# 1 by less than 100 points.

It would be too heart breaking.

 

[Steve0904]

I wouldn't be so sure that anybody couldn't beat Federer, let alone Berdych. At this point in Fed's career it really is one match at a time. The only guy that's a near certainty is Ferrer and even their last couple matches went 3 sets.

 

[tennisaddict]

I wouldn't be so sure that anybody couldn't beat Federer, let alone Berdych. At this point in Fed's career it really is one match at a time.

Agree in general , that would be the case come 2015.

But given the current form of everyone and the situation Fed is in, I expect him to perform well at WTF.

Even if he has a loss , the format gives him the opportunity to bounce back and I think no one does it better than him.

 

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[Aretium]

It really annoys me when people go straight to personal remarks instead of answering or discussing the thread.

"get a life"
"what do you do with yourself"
"too much time on your hands"

Do not judge someone, you NEVER know what their story is. Bad form guys Bad form.

 

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You sure bout that, Johnny boy?

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Your statistics appear to be wrong, please come back with a correct analysis.

Thank you.

 

[Gonzo_style]

Your statistics appear to be wrong, please come back with a correct analysis.

Thank you.

Perhaps you could be a little more specific.

 

[tennisaddict]

OP posts some of the most insightful stats.

If you dont like numbers, then the hate is natural.

 

[sportsfan1]

Is it as simple as this for either to finish YE #1, assuming both will play to form and make it into the later rounds (>=QF at Paris and >=SF at WTF)?

Federer:
Finish ahead of Djok at both Paris and WTF to be YE number 1?

Djokovic:
Finish ahead of Federer at either one of Paris OR WTF to be YE number 1?

 

[InvisibleSoul]

Is it as simple as this for either to finish YE #1, assuming both will play to form and make it into the later rounds (>=QF at Paris and >=SF at WTF)?

Federer:
Finish ahead of Djok at both Paris and WTF to be YE number 1?

Djokovic:
Finish ahead of Federer at either one of Paris OR WTF to be YE number 1?

No, read my breakdown on the first page.