single_handed_champion
Professional
Nothing. His legacy is safe. No amount of losses will sully it.
What is the worst thing that can happen to Nadal and his legacy?
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billnepill
Hall of Fame
lol
It is very difficult to argue with the **** logic "He was beaten by player X so his slams must be a fluke". I think, for the sake of amusement, "****s" are allowed to toy with this subject and hold it against Nadal for a while. After all, isn't it ironic how the "Nards" object to this terrible logic, but at the same time keep it against Federer??!
It is freakin' funny how people make fools of themselves.
P.S. Yes, it will diminish his legacy. (if we lived in the la-la world of the TW forum)
It is very difficult to argue with the **** logic "He was beaten by player X so his slams must be a fluke". I think, for the sake of amusement, "****s" are allowed to toy with this subject and hold it against Nadal for a while. After all, isn't it ironic how the "Nards" object to this terrible logic, but at the same time keep it against Federer??!
It is freakin' funny how people make fools of themselves.
P.S. Yes, it will diminish his legacy. (if we lived in the la-la world of the TW forum)
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
So let me get this straight, Nadal losing 2011 would = ruined legacy. Federer, losing non-stop clay, Wim, AO, etc = no impact; not achieving 2-3 Calendar slams that would have otherwise been his?
The point that I am making here by posting ****erisms, is to point out that this is nothing short of sensationalism to claim that someones legacy is destroyed if they lose the FO
Again the point is that it is fine when a **** says these outlandish things, which I don't believe either, but if they are in favor of Nadal or criticisms of Federer then they are some how waaaaaaaaaaay out of line.
The ****s are so dense they don't get it, if you replace Nadal's name with Federer with everything else being verbatim then it is out of line????
Really..... Really.....?
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lol
It is very difficult to argue with the **** logic "He was beaten by player X so his slams must be a fluke". I think, for the sake of amusement, "****s" are allowed to toy with this subject and hold it against Nadal for a while. After all, isn't it ironic how the "Nards" object to this terrible logic, but at the same time keep it against Federer??!
It is freakin' funny how people make fools of themselves.
P.S. Yes, it will diminish his legacy. (if we lived in the la-la world of the TW forum)
If Nadal wins Roland Garros, Joker's AO win in between Nadal's USO and French Open slams will just be considered an opportunistic fluke which he only won due to Nadal's hamstring injury.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
lol
It is very difficult to argue with the **** logic "He was beaten by player X so his slams must be a fluke". I think, for the sake of amusement, "****s" are allowed to toy with this subject and hold it against Nadal for a while. After all, isn't it ironic how the "Nards" object to this terrible logic, but at the same time keep it against Federer??!
It is freakin' funny how people make fools of themselves.
P.S. Yes, it will diminish his legacy. (if we lived in the la-la world of the TW forum)
LOL, take a look at the record for crap talk and you will see the the ****s win hands down, and lost almost every single time.
However, I agree and is the point of my posts.
I do not agree with you example and here is why. If Federer was ~24, thus being born later. He would have lost more often as he would have to deal with a higher level Nadal, and he would also lose to Novak.
There is no denying that the latest era is superior to the last. Even Roger admitted this.
So Nadal losing show how much tougher this era indeed is.
TTMR
Hall of Fame
I agree with this. At his peak, Nadal is/was arguably the greatest ever.
However, it sucks that tennis such a grueling and demanding sport that hardly anyone can maintain their level past the age of 25, and that so many players have dropped off the map at that point. Even Federer has not been the same since 2007, when he was 25-26. In most other sports, Federer would still be in his prime with at least two or three more years of top notch performances left.
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
Nothing.
Nadal's stellar tennis resume is beyond amazing for a tennis player, any tennis player, which is what has already made him a legend at such a young age.
If he were to lose this years FO, it wouldn't diminish his legacy in the least little bit. One thing Nadal has on his side is time. There's no need to panic. His record would be 5/7. How on earth is that diminishing someone's legacy?
It's sad the lengths some people will go through to spread their negativity, but evidently not much is going right in their own lives.
Nadal's stellar tennis resume is beyond amazing for a tennis player, any tennis player, which is what has already made him a legend at such a young age.
If he were to lose this years FO, it wouldn't diminish his legacy in the least little bit. One thing Nadal has on his side is time. There's no need to panic. His record would be 5/7. How on earth is that diminishing someone's legacy?
It's sad the lengths some people will go through to spread their negativity, but evidently not much is going right in their own lives.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
NaturalGuts70
Banned
As of now, # of posts from the vile doofus with:
'****(s)' in it = 38
'****(s)' in it = 247
Stats don't lie.
'****(s)' in it = 38
'****(s)' in it = 247
Stats don't lie.
syc23
Professional
The only way Rafa would destroy his legacy is if he was found to have taken performance enhancement drugs, illegal betting and throwing matches, or in the middle of losing to Djokovic decides to jump over the net mid match and drop kicked him WWF style.
None of the above has happened so far or is likely to so his status as one of the future tennis hall of fame is assured. As is Federer, when these 2 does decide to quit someday, people will moan that they don't have another tennis rivalry like it.
Cherish it, much like the NBA is now a poorer place without Mike, Magic, Larry, Isiah, Clyde, Charles and Pippen. Tennis could be entering the same phase.
None of the above has happened so far or is likely to so his status as one of the future tennis hall of fame is assured. As is Federer, when these 2 does decide to quit someday, people will moan that they don't have another tennis rivalry like it.
Cherish it, much like the NBA is now a poorer place without Mike, Magic, Larry, Isiah, Clyde, Charles and Pippen. Tennis could be entering the same phase.
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aprilfool
Guest
I agree. Great sig btw!
PSNELKE
Legend
Well let me guess: DjokerIsTheBest, gj011(tennis1), brucey, Anaconda??
zagor
Bionic Poster
Noel is a special case,he's at his peak as long he's glutten free.It's hard to tell how much longer will he be able to resist pizza and pasta,as soon as he succumbs to them again he'll be back to losing to Kohlschreibers and Melzers of the world in slams no doubt.
zagor
Bionic Poster
After all, isn't it ironic how the "Nards" object to this terrible logic, but at the same time keep it against Federer??!
Quite an interesting thought,never really occurred to me personally but now that you mention it yes it is a tad ironic,isn't it
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Truthfully, none of these things would likely destroy his legacy if found to be true either. First of all you probably would not find out about it and even if you did a logical explanation and spin would be put in place immediately by his publicists/sponsors. People would forget all about it in time. Look at Agassi. His declarations did not tarnish his legacy at all imo.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Yes!!! Completely agree.Without a doubt this forum is just not the same without her.
Gaudio2004
Semi-Pro
Well to say nobody beats Rafa in Paris in 5 sets is ridiculous and false - Soderling did so. Take away delusion and ignorance and you will see there is a man who has beaten Nadal 4 times in 4 finals this season and is unbeaten - if he reaches the final against Nadal, who's going to be more nervous, a man who has won 4 times in 4 finals against Nadal this season, or a man who has lost in 4 finals against Djokovic this season?
Curious.
You want a troll on the forums?
May I ask, what is wrong with you?
Correct, a forum without a troll is better. Which it is.
Curious.
You want a troll on the forums?
May I ask, what is wrong with you?
Correct, a forum without a troll is better. Which it is.
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DRII
G.O.A.T.
Please!
As I've said previously, the men's game is in a slight transitional slump right now with many players either hurt or not in top form.
Nadal's current form would not have got him to 5 consecutive master's finals in previous years!
It amazes me how some of you can't distinguish quantitative vs qualitative results!
DRII
G.O.A.T.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
That was an injured Nadal that Soderling defeated!
zagor
Bionic Poster
Troll,fanboy,objective poster,it all depends on the perspective of the one you ask.I personally think the forum is a lot worse off without Malakas,of course some people might view things differently.
PSNELKE
Legend
Same here.
However I think the vast majority would agree here aswell.
Malakas is a legend.
The-Champ
Legend
Same here.
However I think the vast majority would agree here aswell.
Malakas is a legend.
speaking of legends...I want Morissey and Benhur back
years ago, I came in here just to read their posts..
speaking of legends...I want Morissey and Benhur back
years ago, I came in here just to read their posts..
I think Morrissey is still in anger management class.
powerangle
Legend
Where did I say that Rafa losing in 2011 would ruin his legacy? I'm just pointing out the fallacy of your argument on how Rafa "destroyed" Fed's legacy.
Nowhere did the OP even mention Federer. He/she made the ignorant point about Rafa's legacy somehow being damaged if he were to lose to Novak. So then go ahead and defend Rafa. Why did you bring in Fed?? Why do you hate the man so much?
Of course he can! Just b/c only one player(nole) is playing god mode tennis is stopping him in the finals doesn't mean he couldn't have done it in previous years.
It amazes me that you think your opinion is fact !
Keep saying that if it helps you sleep well at night !
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
speaking of legends...I want Morissey and Benhur back
years ago, I came in here just to read their posts..
Ditto. TT feels diluted without them. Oh, and The Lone Wolf. Awesome posters!
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
That was in general and not aimed at you, I should have separated the post.
As for Roger, hate, hell no! I just don't enjoy the ****s sensationalism = ****isms
I make those post to demonstraight a point, did you notice how it was find to declare such things for Rafa, but for Federer it was out of line?
If you disagree with such sensationalism then it would be interesting for you to call ****s on such things.
Like I said, you can replace Federer's name with a Nadal hate post and they only freak out when Federer's name is mention, but not Nadal's. Strange that.
DragonBlaze
Hall of Fame
Nothing. You can't take back what has already been achieved. Rafa's place in the upper echelons of tennis players is secure as well as his co-clay-GOAT status. Same with Fed, no matter how many randoms he loses to from now on, his place in the top tier with Laver and Sampras etc, is secure.
Good trolling thread though
Good trolling thread though
powerangle
Legend
DeShaun
Banned
I did not realize it until today, because you always have been so careful with your choice of words. Here, you do not appear to be baiting anyone but rather to be rushing to the defense of some cherished thing that is besieged, Rafa is your boy.
Nole seems to have solved for Rafa, though.
Better fitness/movement: *check*
Greater patience when rallying: *check*
Stronger serve: *check*
Equal mental toughness: *check*
Nole's white hot run of form may be a sudden way for Rafa to meet his end. Then again, I doubt Rafa ever intended much more for himself than to expose Federer. Though it does appear the tables are turning on Rafa.
Gaudio2004
Semi-Pro
So then Nadal has never lost at Roland Garros?
zagor
Bionic Poster
No,transitional slump was 2008-2010(although 2009 was still reasonably strong).2004-2007 and 2011+ are extremely strong eras.
It definitely would,with the difference that he would have won more of those finals.
DragonBlaze
Hall of Fame
FlamEnemY
Hall of Fame
speaking of legends...I want Morissey and Benhur back
years ago, I came in here just to read their posts..
Same here.
However I think the vast majority would agree here aswell.
Malakas is a legend.
True, true.
We might as well change the topic to "nostalgia thread"
BULLZ1LLA
Banned
(You would have to ask Rafa that, but I don't think Djokovic will win any of the slams outside of the Australian Open)
abmk
Bionic Poster
Now that is some quality trolling
This weak era of trolling here at TT definitely required someone like you to make it stronger ! :twisted:
Netzroller
Semi-Pro
This.
10char
newmark401
Professional
A definition of the word "legacy": "Something handed down from an ancestor or a predecessor or from the past."
Given that Nadal is not yet 25 years of age, it might be a bit premature to start talking about his legacy.
Given that Nadal is not yet 25 years of age, it might be a bit premature to start talking about his legacy.
AM95
Hall of Fame
i believe federer is still like, what is it.... 7 slams ahead of nadal?
rafa needs to have much more than a positive h2h (with most matches coming on clay) to tarnish roger's legacy.
please name records that rafa has accomplished that roger hasnt (other than winning 83 consec matches on clay (l. to federer) )
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Precisely.
Let me draw your kind consideration to this masterly post. Also check rest of thread.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=5603905&postcount=1
Talker
Hall of Fame
It's too early to talk about Nadal's legacy.
However Fed did hold the #1 and many Slams were won on Rafa's watch, against the same field Fed has much more hardware.
This can't be explained away no matter what Nadal does now.
Fed had people trying to derail him in his prime but what Djokovic is doing to Nadal no one had done to Federer while in his prime.
Nadal needs to start making more slam finals, we know what Fed's record is there with streaks of 10 and 8 straight.
Djokovic may well become the masters king the way he is going also, on Nadal's watch.
However Fed did hold the #1 and many Slams were won on Rafa's watch, against the same field Fed has much more hardware.
This can't be explained away no matter what Nadal does now.
Fed had people trying to derail him in his prime but what Djokovic is doing to Nadal no one had done to Federer while in his prime.
Nadal needs to start making more slam finals, we know what Fed's record is there with streaks of 10 and 8 straight.
Djokovic may well become the masters king the way he is going also, on Nadal's watch.
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