HetTheGreaterer
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The hype can as well turn out to be premature and get medvedev overconfident
Where are you, rafa and roger??
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Thomas O’Malley
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Possibly but i think he has the mentality to handle it.
And I for one hope the hype ends up being correct. Tennis needs someone like him to do well, I find him a breath of fresh air. And honestly I don’t even really find him obnoxious, I mean he barely even celebrates winning points.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Why are you mentioning Rafa? You are like screaming for Rafa to stop the Russian. Well, Rafa is doing it, on fast and slow HC.
He will probably do that again. Rafa got nervy in USO final, that’s what happened. Winning that slam probably gave Rafa a big confidence boost, imagine. Rafa finally dealt w the ghosts in his mind during important 5 set matches.
Thomas O’Malley
New User
As a newly christened Med fan I’m still salty over the US final lol, but I’m glad Ghost could be made happy by it 
Rafa probably has two more decent years on HC, and this is his best chance to win WTF.
Rafa probably has two more decent years on HC, and this is his best chance to win WTF.
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
The wedding guests have been asked not to carry their phones:
Confidentiality agreements for Nadal wedding in Majorca
Privacy and security are uppermost for the wedding on Saturday week.
www.majorcadailybulletin.com
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Rafa momentarily stopped it in Canada, though Rafa beating Medvedev in that USO epic added more fuel to the hype train lol
The guy wins matches and tournaments like it's a walk in the park, dude wins Masters 1000s and barely manages a smile I like his calm demeanor, another day at the office for the Russian. His base level is awesome.
The guy wins matches and tournaments like it's a walk in the park, dude wins Masters 1000s and barely manages a smile
I like his calm demeanor, another day at the office for the Russian. His base level is awesome.
Thomas O’Malley
New User
i love how hes really focused like that, but he has a sharp wit and personality that he nicely compartmentalizesRafa momentarily stopped it in Canada, though Rafa beating Medvedev in that USO epic added more fuel to the hype train lol
The guy wins matches and tournaments like it's a walk in the park, dude wins Masters 1000s and barely manages a smile
Sosuke Aizen
Rookie
These kind of threads show that some of you really dont want to see new players break through.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Both are too old, just acquiesce to the changing of the guard.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Is not the same!
One is on the verge of retirement.
The other has 2 more good years and he is able to win some more Majors.
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Chadalina
Guest
They are playing laver cup while med is winning atp events.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
I'm screaming for both fedal to do it, just take down medvedev once more in straight sets.
They both have the variety, gameplan and techniques to bring the hype train back to earth.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
I know that already, octo.The wedding guests have been asked not to carry their phones:
Confidentiality agreements for Nadal wedding in Majorca
Privacy and security are uppermost for the wedding on Saturday week.
But there has to be a professional photographer hired by rafa for wedding, so I think official photos should be there.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
It's actually not the case, medvedev is getting away with weird low-power game that is yet unreadable for most of the tour excluding fedal..
They need to bring him down to earth once again, for the future of tennis. It'll only improve Medvedev
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Thiem is basically an idiotA 250 in Moscow... But nothing like Thiem does during the olympics.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Well at least it paid off and got him some clay slams and masters titles...
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Exactly. You have to be impressed. This is what everyone has been waiting on, it's just crazy we all got the predictions of who it would be so wrong
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Or maybe there is something to @UnderratedSlam GAS theory and we need to give some of these young guys more time to hit the new age that is capable of doing big things.
While I am no Thiem fan, he reached his first slam final at 23. Med Bear at 23.
Maybe this means guys like Tsits (21), Khachanov (23), Zverev (22), Shapo (20), FAA (19), and Fritz (21) are about to hit the same level.
Imagine if 6 months ago we said Med Bear would do this. We would laugh, we did. Don't see why the other can't eventually do the same.
In the next few years we will find out, but what we have been waiting for is in motion and should be here (more than one) by this time next year or the next.
steelcity32
Rookie
Everything you just said is 100% correct.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer has to first get that far to get the chance to play him. He could have stopped Med in Shanghai, but not playing well enough.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Sascha's serve was zoning for a couple matches, and that hurt Roger along with his stubbornness to hang the baseline while returning even when not reading well.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
How can you say he plays w a lot of variety when he is that stubborn?
Frank Bannister
Semi-Pro
Nadal is supposed to be a cerebral player, yet he failed to move in on return during the Wimbledon SF. It happens. I still consider him an intelligent tennis player after that.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Sometimes he's stubborn with some strategies..
Like dumping every 9/10 balls into delpo FH or stuff like that
That's how he's stubborn...
ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
This thread sounds like an obese child yelling and demanding more cake.
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Chadalina
Guest
No cake if they are over 32
More like the old guys are getting their cake and eating it too.Age rule = lol in leadership the recent atp has strived for. Keeping the pigs fat
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
Also, Mad Lad showing it is possible gives everyone hope. It probably has something to do with the Next Gen players having an uptick in form.
Frank Bannister
Semi-Pro
The new thing now is that Federer doesn't play with variety
NatF
Bionic Poster
I'm happy to see someone new doing so well tbh. Meddy looks like the stand out #NextGen player now, I'm sure not even @Meles would have picked Medvedev for that honour 12 months ago. It will be interesting to see how his game evolves from here and who from his cohort will be able to challenge him - right now it seems like he's got their number.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Several things are abundantly clear.
1. My GAS theory is a fact, not a theory. It has already been confirmed by Lendl and even usually thick sports journalists are getting to accept it.
To anyone who wants to read about my GAS FACTS, search a thread with GAS in it. Great Age Shift. Or just check out the ages of slam winners, no 1s, top 100 age average in this decade and compare it to the previous ones...
2. NextGen is better, far better than LostGen. Not saying it because LostGen were in the thick of Big 3 dominance hence had it tougher than NextGen, but because when you list the LostGenners, it's just OBJECTIVELY an absurdly weak list, a crap generation. If Raonic and Goffin are among the BEST 5-6 of a generation then you know it must be weak. One needed years to learn to run faster than a snail, the other is the dictionary definition of a pigeon.
3. I doubt ANY of the NextGenners will be as good as Bearerer. He just has big advantages over them: his crazy power/junk/troll game and his immense confidence. That should keep him above the others for years. I may be wrong. Let's hope I am coz I don't want another boring monopoly such as in the 90s and 00s.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Very much.
Think he also wanted ice cream, not cake. Poor him.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Finally a usurper shows up, and people are complaining...
And he has personality, and a weird game that annoys opponents. What more do you want? A singing clown?
But I guess when the Big 3 era ends, that will separate the men from the boys among fans, the real tennis fans and the fanboiz who are just there to support one player.
And he has personality, and a weird game that annoys opponents. What more do you want? A singing clown?
But I guess when the Big 3 era ends, that will separate the men from the boys among fans, the real tennis fans and the fanboiz who are just there to support one player.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
So you consider Rafa an intelligent player?
Can a 19 slam player understand less about tennis than yourself? Let alone top 500?
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
How that a new thing?The new thing now is that Federer doesn't play with variety
I was just asking him a question. I never said Federer lacks variety.
MurraysMetalHip
Hall of Fame
When a player as average as Medvedev starts winning 1,000 series events, you know the post-Rafa/l’empereur/Djokovic era is heading for the abyss.
Frank Bannister
Semi-Pro
Yes, I do.
Anyone that has played/followed tennis can easily make an observation about court positioning because we aren't there on the court going through it. We aren't dealing with a crowd or pressure of the moment. That's probably what happened to Nadal in that SF. It's not because he isn't smart enough to change tactics. Much like Federer being stubborn in a match doesn't take away the fact that he has every shot in the book and makes life hard on opponents because of it. Goes without saying he's an intelligent player as well.
The insinuation was made through the question.
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Rafa is not committed to Xisca ? unfortunate
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
1: You don’t know what is going in Rafas and Feds head. Probably something very different from what you are saying.
2: that’s because you don’t understand what’s going on inside peoples heads. I find this thread not the most intelligent one and I was only fishing for some more generic answers from op who thinks he is bringing up new insights when it’s something we have heard before.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Who said that?The new thing now is that Federer doesn't play with variety
Neither me nor @TheGhostOfAgassi .
I said Roger's stubborn sometimes
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
What is GAS theory in the first place??
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
GAS (The Great Age Shift): Players Who've Been Longer Pros Than Non-Pros.
Rafa turned pro at the age of 15, Federer at the age of 17, Djokovic at the age of 16. So that's half or over half their life-spans already. This used to be much more rare because pros would generally retire roughly around 30. And since very few turn pro as early as 15... In the age of GAS...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com
"Today's 33 is our 27." - Ivan Lendl explaining the Great Age Shift in tennis.
Go to 26:20 in the clip. I've been saying this for years, that a huge age shift had taken place in tennis in this decade. The Great Age Shift. GAS. You heard it here first. Which means - for example - that RF being 38 isn't nearly the big deal it would have been in the 90s or 80s. It is...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com
Frank Bannister
Semi-Pro
1. His return position obviously wasn't working for him and he didn't change it. Are you saying he isn't smart enough to realize that and act accordingly? Are you saying that Federer is so ignorant that he makes the same mistake over and over again? A 19 time and 20 time slam champion? The answer is NO. The adrenaline, the moment, all that contributes to bad decision making sometimes.
2. The insinuation was made and I knew you were fishing which is why I replied. Just looking for something to use against Fed fans. Waiting for someone to say something that you can use against them.
Frank Bannister
Semi-Pro
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Okay..GAS (The Great Age Shift): Players Who've Been Longer Pros Than Non-Pros.
Rafa turned pro at the age of 15, Federer at the age of 17, Djokovic at the age of 16. So that's half or over half their life-spans already. This used to be much more rare because pros would generally retire roughly around 30. And since very few turn pro as early as 15... In the age of GAS...
"Today's 33 is our 27." - Ivan Lendl explaining the Great Age Shift in tennis.
Go to 26:20 in the clip. I've been saying this for years, that a huge age shift had taken place in tennis in this decade. The Great Age Shift. GAS. You heard it here first. Which means - for example - that RF being 38 isn't nearly the big deal it would have been in the 90s or 80s. It is...
It's a bunch of crap though, I have to admit.
The ways you went to justify the theory were staggeringly good, anyways
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I didn't justify anything. The facts and numbers did.
HetTheGreaterer
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