Will Djokovic at 29 break Federer's records...

CYGS

Legend
... when Federer was 29 (at the end of 2010)?

<Federer's Total> Federer at 29 (Djokovic as of now)
GS titles: <17> 16 (12)
GS match wins: <307> 208 (223)
Masters titles: <24> 17 (30)
Total titles: <88> 66 (66)
Total match wins: <1080> 743 (732)
Total match played: <1325> 917 (882)
Weeks at number 1: <302> 285 (209+)
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djokovic–Federer_rivalry

Djokovic has already surpassed Federer at 29 in two categories (GS match wins and Masters titles), tied in one (total titles) and closed the gap in all others.

Aside from GS titles and weeks at number 1, Djokovic will end 2016 ahead in 5 out of 7 categories above, which is absolutely amazing.
 
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macattack

Professional
Yes, but Djokovic has a much better career in his late 20s than Federer, which is a good sign for the rest of his career.

I feel you on that. I'm admittedly not a huge fan of Djoko personally, but he certainly has the game to get there. We shall see. Getting to 14 will be huge in and of itself.
 

alex87

Rookie
... when Federer was 29 (at the end of 2010)?

Federer at 29 (Djokovic as of now)
GS titles: 16 (12)
GS match wins: 208 (223)
Masters titles: 17 (30)
Total titles: 66 (66)
Total match wins: 743 (732)
Total match played: 917 (882)
Weeks at number 1: 285 (209+)
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djokovic–Federer_rivalry

Djokovic has already surpassed Federer at 29 in two categories (GS match wins and Masters titles), tied in one (total titles) and closed the gap in all others.

Aside from GS titles and weeks at number 1, Djokovic will end 2016 ahead in 5 out of 7 categories above, which is absolutely amazing.


do you have also the data of nadal? it'd be really interesting
 
OP, you should edit the post to include a third column for Fed's career totals, that would show how far/close Djokovic is from the overall as well.
Djokovic dominanted in the just concluded Roger's M1000 tournament even when he wasn't supposedly playing his best, and his opponents were simply unable to challenge him, they didn't even take him to 3 sets in the last several rounds atleast. The numbers are close so barring big surprises, you have to think that Djokovic will eventually eclipse or at least match most of Federer's big records. He's 5 slams and about a 100 weeks short of reaching Fed's slam and weeks at #1 totals.
 
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nowhereman

Guest
do you have also the data of nadal? it'd be really interesting
Nadal only turned 29 last year, and he hasn't done anything significant this year other than win Monte Carlo. So basically take his career as it is now lol.
 

CYGS

Legend
OP, you should edit the post to include a third column for Fed's career totals, that would show how far/close Djokovic is from the overall as well.
Djokovic dominanted in the just concluded Roger's M1000 tournament even when he wasn't supposedly playing his best, and his opponents were simply unable to challenge him, they didn't even take him to 3 sets in the last several rounds atleast. The numbers are close so barring big surprises, you have to think that Djokovic will eventually eclipse or at least match most of Federer's big records. He's 5 slams and about a 100 weeks short of reaching Fed's slam and weeks at #1 totals.
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VexlanderPrime

Guest
Yes, but Djokovic has a much better career in his late 20s than Federer, which is a good sign for the rest of his career.
I wouldn't be so sure.

Still think 15/16 will be his number. Slams are hard to win. Still he'll probably finish as the clear cut number 2 with his own arguments v. Fed.
 
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Navdeep Srivastava

Guest
I wouldn't be so sure.

Still think 15/16 will be his number. Slams are hard to win. Still he'll probably finish as the clear cut number 2 with his own arguments v. Fed.
Yeps 15 is also my current estimate
 

Rafa the King

Hall of Fame
Incredible considering he really got going from 24. Don't think he'll be able to overtake Rog in the most important stat, but as it stands I see him being dominant for atleast the another 1,5-2 years. He's got probably 10 more slams to win 5 (while slowly declining ofcourse)
 

alex87

Rookie
Federer Djokovic Nadal
GS Titles 16 12 14
GS match wins 203 223 196
GS match played 232 258 224
% GS match won 87,5% 86,43% 87,5%
Masters titles 17 30 27
Total titles 66 66 67
Total match wins 743 732 745
Total match played 917 882 897
% match won 81,03% 82,99% 83,05%
Weeks at number 1 285 209 141
 
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veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Comparison of tier 1 events won between the big 3 by age/season:

19 (2006, 2000, 2005): Djoko 0, Fed 0, Nadal 5
20: Djoko 2, Fed 0, Nadal 3
21: Djoko 4, Fed 1, Nadal 4
22: Djoko 1, Fed 2, Nadal 5 + OL
23: Djoko 0, Fed 7, Nadal 4
24: Djoko 8, Fed 6, Nadal 6
25: Djoko 5, Fed 8, Nadal 2
26: Djoko 5, Fed 6, Nadal 3
27: Djoko 6, Fed 1, Nadal 7
28: Djoko 10, Fed 4, Nadal 2
29: Djoko 6+, Fed 3, Nadal 0

Roughly speaking, Nadal dominated the early years (until 22), Fed dominated the prime years (23 to 26), Djoko is dominating the older years (27+)

Slam titles at end of 29 year old season (2016, 2010, 2015):
Djoko 12 (or 13), Fed 16, Nadal 14
Master titles:
Djoko 30+, Fed 17, Nadal 27
WTF:
Djoko 5 (or 6), Fed 5, Nadal 0

But given current pattern, Djoko is likely to add more tier 1 titles than Fed/Nadal in his later seasons (bar unpredictables like injury)
 

Tarkovsky

Semi-Pro
Comparison of tier 1 events won between the big 3 by age/season:

19 (2006, 2000, 2005): Djoko 0, Fed 0, Nadal 5
20: Djoko 2, Fed 0, Nadal 3
21: Djoko 4, Fed 1, Nadal 4
22: Djoko 1, Fed 2, Nadal 5 + OL
23: Djoko 0, Fed 7, Nadal 4
24: Djoko 8, Fed 6, Nadal 6
25: Djoko 5, Fed 8, Nadal 2
26: Djoko 5, Fed 6, Nadal 3
27: Djoko 6, Fed 1, Nadal 7
28: Djoko 10, Fed 4, Nadal 2
29: Djoko 6+, Fed 3, Nadal 0

Roughly speaking, Nadal dominated the early years (until 22), Fed dominated the prime years (23 to 26), Djoko is dominating the older years (27+)
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Your list of tier 1 wins by age is perfectly matching the ATP points by age:

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and also by ELO rating by age:

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