Wilson H22 Users Club

picasso

New User
I've just acquired a pair of F Pennetta ( (US open) H22's in a blade 2015pj, on their way from the US. Will be posting some pics if anyone is interested? I'm also just in the process of selling a kidney to pay for them. Should be here next week.
 
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Titochop77

Semi-Pro
I just joined the club. I got the h22 16x19.
Swing weight is 325. Even balance.
If anyone has H22 16x19 grommets let me know.
 

picasso

New User
I'm looking into making grommets. I've been given info from smooth-on regarding plastics to use. I can't imagine its easy though. Anyone know where I can get more info on this? There are videos on youtube on everything to do with racket manufacture etc but I can't find how grommets are manufactured (I'm thinking wilson use some kind of press for mass production). It can't be impossible. If we can do this I'll sell them cheap to anyone on here for $75 a set.....JUST KIDDING, ONLY $50.
 

greg280

Rookie
whats everyones experience with the 16x19? I have 2 in burn paint, 27.5 inches and I have them at 12.2 with a 32.7 balance strung with alu power. at the moment, its great. I have tried h22 18 main, both patterns of h19 and both patterns of pt113b. this frame is like a perfect blend of those I just mentioned.....
 

Titochop77

Semi-Pro
whats everyones experience with the 16x19? I have 2 in burn paint, 27.5 inches and I have them at 12.2 with a 32.7 balance strung with alu power. at the moment, its great. I have tried h22 18 main, both patterns of h19 and both patterns of pt113b. this frame is like a perfect blend of those I just mentioned.....


I haven’t played with the 18x20 but I have the 16x19. I don’t get that much control and have to aim for bigger targets. A lot pop on serve tho.
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
I prefer H22 16-19, paintjob blade is more soft than burn

Cool thanks! Heard h19 is very flexy, want something still plush but abit more stiffer and powerful so was thinking h22

Where do people obtain their h22s? Looking for a standard length pair in the blade pj. Was looking at prostocktennis but 16/19 seems very rare
 

tennistomcat

Semi-Pro
It's been a great ride with my H22.
This stick does nearly everything well & I thought I would not come across anything that I would like more until recently.
If anyone is looking to pick up a lighter 18X20 version (306 gm unstrung), message me.
 

Titochop77

Semi-Pro
It's been a great ride with my H22.
This stick does nearly everything well & I thought I would not come across anything that I would like more until recently.
If anyone is looking to pick up a lighter 18X20 version (306 gm unstrung), message me.


What’s are the specs and paint job?
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
when it comes to a h22 what are peoples preferences for string pattern? Don't see alot of 16/19 mostly 18x20. is it perhaps because it's the more popular pattern for peoples spec?
 

Titochop77

Semi-Pro
when it comes to a h22 what are peoples preferences for string pattern? Don't see alot of 16/19 mostly 18x20. is it perhaps because it's the more popular pattern for peoples spec?


For me. The 16x19 is harder to control. I have to aim for bigger spots.
 

dl32

Rookie
Hi Folks. First post!

Started playing after a 5-7 year layoff.
Wanted a new stick and everything I hit with felt strange, mostly modern stuff (Babolat pure aero, Yonex v Core, RF97 and others). The RF97 I liked more than any other retail but still, it wasn’t right for me.

I played competitively in my teens. Seems like I don’t lose much even after a long layoff other than stamina.

Anyway, after nerding out on forms I picked up two unused H22’s under a Six.1 95 pj. All I can say is absolutely amazing!

For my game, spin is 95% of the Babolat, 95% plow of RF97 and it feels like I can serve the jacket off the ball. Completing strokes is key for me as I do see how the ball can fly if you don’t come all the way through and over. The H22 does everything really well.

All that said, the H22 is probably the best stick I’ve ever hit with and will Never go back to Retail.

Specs:

H22 16x19
2014 Six 1 95 PJ
About 325 in unstrung
About 345 Strung (gut/poly hybrid)
RA 63/64 Approximately
Factory Foam/Silicon in handle.
Wilson Leather Grip.
Came with 2 sets of replacement grommets.

Wish I had this equipment when I was younger!! May have helped me from stopping playing for such a long time!
 
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Titochop77

Semi-Pro
Hi Folks. First post!

Started playing after a 5-7 year layoff.
Wanted a new stick and everything I hit with felt strange, mostly modern stuff (Babolat pure aero, Yonex v Core, RF97 and others). The RF97 I liked more than any other retail but still, it wasn’t right for me.

I played competitively in my teens. Seems like I don’t lose much even after a long layoff other than stamina.

Anyway, after nerding out on forms I picked up two unused H22’s under a Six.1 95 pj. All I can say is absolutely amazing!

For my game, spin is 95% of the Babolat, 95% plow of RF97 and it feels like I can serve the jacket off the ball. Completing strokes is key for me as I do see how the ball can fly if you don’t come all the way through and over. The H22 does everything really well.

All that said, the H22 is probably the best stick I’ve ever hit with and will Never go back to Retail.

Specs:

H22 16x19
2014 Six 1 95 PJ
About 325 in unstrung
About 345 Strung (gut/poly hybrid)
RA 63/64 Approximately
Factory Foam/Silicon in handle.
Wilson Leather Grip.
Came with 2 sets of replacement grommets.

Wish I had this equipment when I was younger!! May have helped me from stopping playing for such a long time!


What do you like about 16x19 more than 18x20?
Also do you have any grommets for sell?
 

dl32

Rookie
What do you like about 16x19 more than 18x20?
Also do you have any grommets for sell?

I cannot comment on 18x20, I’ve hit with 16x19 my whole life so it’s really all I know and it works for me. Not going to change at this point.

As for the gear, I don’t sell any items I purchase. If anything, certain items get passed on to friends.
 
Just wondering if anyone could comment on how close a PS97 plays to a similarly weighted H22? Still thinking of buying a PS97CV - primarily for the shock absorption - and lengthening it to my Prince longbody 28" length. H22s seem to have a generally higher balance point than stock PS97CVs, and additionally it would seem kind of blasphemous to Frankenracquet an H22 lol!
 

Peter Szucs

Semi-Pro
What do you like about 16x19 more than 18x20?
Also do you have any grommets for sell?

I have both 1619 and 1820 h22s.

The 1619 is a little more powerful (same stringjob) and grabs the ball a little more and therefore easier to open angles with it. The 1820 will give you more predictable response, increased feel of control, smoother feel in general while still providing lots of power and spin. Overall i prefer 1820
 

rafazx10

Rookie
How are you guys measuring RA and SW?
I got a pair of H22 and would like to know how they match up to my other rackets.

I general they are great for backhand slices and general ground strokes. I cannot for my life serve with them. Will keep playing with my Six One
 

Titochop77

Semi-Pro
I have both 1619 and 1820 h22s.

The 1619 is a little more powerful (same stringjob) and grabs the ball a little more and therefore easier to open angles with it. The 1820 will give you more predictable response, increased feel of control, smoother feel in general while still providing lots of power and spin. Overall i prefer 1820

I’m gonna find some h22 18x20 to see the difference for myself. Thanks for the feedback!!
 

dl32

Rookie
This may not apply to this thread, but I picked up a brand new matched pair of H19’s 16x19z

Came out 346 and 347 g’s respectively string with champions choice. I’m hitting today so I’ll give feedback va H22
 

Titochop77

Semi-Pro
This may not apply to this thread, but I picked up a brand new matched pair of H19’s 16x19z

Came out 346 and 347 g’s respectively string with champions choice. I’m hitting today so I’ll give feedback va H22

Let us your opinion about the racquet and comparison.
 

dl32

Rookie
Let us your opinion about the racquet and comparison.

Test Subjects:

RF97 - 2x - 359 and 363 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - 1 month of hitting

H22 16x19 - 2x - silicon/foam only, no lead, 349 and 351 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - RA 64 - leather grip- one month of hitting

H19 16x19 - 2x - silicon/foam only, no lead, 346 and 347 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - RA 63 - leather grip - 2 days of hitting

H22 has a very distinct feel. I know this will sound crazy, feels softer and much more forgiving than H19 or RF22. It is a canon and you can overhit easily if you don’t spin it. That said, H22 can have major spin if you want it can also hit flat real easy. It does everything really well just doesn’t have pin point control. “Aim big” Serve, volley, ground, plow, stability....excellent. Control - pretty good. Next time, I will string 57/55. Also, I use vibration damper. This H19 layup was for a top 80 ATP player and I made no change.

H19 is really interesting. I’ll start by saying next string will be 52/50. At 55/53, feels very similar to RF97, stiff. This one is RA63 per the seller and it fells like it, which is the opposite of what I’ve read. I have no problem generating power but needs full swing and I adjust my grip to be more closed on forehand and backhand and it made a huge difference.
It hits much flatter, with a lot of pace, while spin is 70% of H22. My first serve was on fire, 2nd serve pretty good kick, excellent control and hitting corners and put always were just easy. The H19 was a layup for a top 50 men’s ATP pro, I just adjusted to it and after two days, I changed grip mostly. It’s an RF97 with much bigger serve, much more maneuverability, I can whip shots and the 15-17 grams lower weight actually helps as I feel no difference in plow or stability. It is a monster. Two negatives, lots less forgiving than H22 and less spin. That said, keep your eyes on the ball all the Way and the stick is an attacking weapon and still good on defense. Also, no vibration dampener needed.

Overall, if I were playing on clay H22 or as I get older. Grass/Hardcourt and joints less than 45 years old and still healthy H19 makes me feel like when I played competitively in my younger days.

I feel very lucky to have a pair of both as every modern racquet I played with, except the RF97, which is pretty good for me, was NOT good for me. Babolat pure aero, not fun, Yonex v core, okay ground/volley, but serve felt terrible, no pop/no power = no fun.

I’m not sure what they are doing to new racquets these days, H19/H22 has more old school fee to me with modern head size.
 
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Green with envy!! :) I still think that a friend's H22 that I tried once was the best racquet I ever hit with; my problem is that I've played with 28" racquets for around twenty years now, and even if I extended an H22 to 28" frankenracquet style - blasphemous I know :eek: - the swingweight and control would probably be unmanageable. Still wondering about a 27.5" H22; it would probably serve better than my 28"s anyway lol! These seem to come up occasionally. Enjoy!!
 

Titochop77

Semi-Pro
Test Subjects:

RF97 - 2x - 359 and 363 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - 1 month of hitting

H22 16x19 - 2x - silicon/foam only, no lead, 349 and 351 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - RA 64 - leather grip- one month of hitting

H19 16x19 - 2x - silicon/foam only, no lead, 349 and 351 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - RA 63 - leather grip - 2 days of hitting

H22 has a very distinct feel. I know this will sound crazy, feels softer and much more forgiving than H19 or RF22. It is a canon and you can overhit easily if you don’t spin it. That said, H22 can have major spin if you want it can also hit flat real easy. It does everything really well just doesn’t have pin point control. “Aim big” Serve, volley, ground, plow, stability....excellent. Control - pretty good. Next time, I will string 57/55. Also, I use vibration damper. This H19 layup was for a top 80 ATP player and I made no change.

H19 is really interesting. I’ll start by saying next string will be 52/50. At 55/53, feels very similar to RF97, stiff. This one is RA63 per the seller and it fells like it, which is the opposite of what I’ve read. I have no problem generating power but needs full swing and I adjust my grip to be more closed on forehand and backhand and it made a huge difference.
It hits much flatter, with a lot of pace, while spin is 70% of H22. My first serve was on fire, 2nd serve pretty good kick, excellent control and hitting corners and put always were just easy. The H19 was a layup for a top 50 men’s ATP pro, I just adjusted to it and after two days, I changed grip mostly. It’s an RF97 with much bigger serve, much more maneuverability, I can whip shots and the 15-17 grams lower weight actually helps as I feel no difference in plow or stability. It is a monster. Two negatives, lots less forgiving than H22 and less spin. That said, keep your eyes on the ball all the Way and the stick is an attacking weapon and still good on defense. Also, no vibration dampener needed.

Overall, if I were playing on clay H22 or as I get older. Grass/Hardcourt and joints less than 45 years old and still healthy H19 makes me feel like when I played competitively in my younger days.

I feel very lucky to have a pair of both as every modern racquet I played with, except the RF97, which is pretty good for me, was NOT good for me. Babolat pure aero, not fun, Yonex v core, okay ground/volley, but serve felt terrible, no pop/no power = no fun.

I’m not sure what they are doing to new racquets these days, H19/H22 has more old school fee to me with modern head size.

Have you tried the h22 18x20?
 

dl32

Rookie
Green with envy!! :) I still think that a friend's H22 that I tried once was the best racquet I ever hit with; my problem is that I've played with 28" racquets for around twenty years now, and even if I extended an H22 to 28" frankenracquet style - blasphemous I know :eek: - the swingweight and control would probably be unmanageable. Still wondering about a 27.5" H22; it would probably serve better than my 28"s anyway lol! These seem to come up occasionally. Enjoy!!

Thank you, got real lucky and really I appreciate these racquets. Just makes playing fun and keeps your mind on the game and not the racquet.
 

dl32

Rookie
Test Subjects:

RF97 - 2x - 359 and 363 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - 1 month of hitting

H22 16x19 - 2x - silicon/foam only, no lead, 349 and 351 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - RA 64 - leather grip- one month of hitting

H19 16x19 - 2x - silicon/foam only, no lead, 346 and 347 Strung - Champions Choice 55/53 - RA 63 - leather grip - 2 days of hitting

H22 has a very distinct feel. I know this will sound crazy, feels softer and much more forgiving than H19 or RF22. It is a canon and you can overhit easily if you don’t spin it. That said, H22 can have major spin if you want it can also hit flat real easy. It does everything really well just doesn’t have pin point control. “Aim big” Serve, volley, ground, plow, stability....excellent. Control - pretty good. Next time, I will string 57/55. Also, I use vibration damper. This H19 layup was for a top 80 ATP player and I made no change.

H19 is really interesting. I’ll start by saying next string will be 52/50. At 55/53, feels very similar to RF97, stiff. This one is RA63 per the seller and it fells like it, which is the opposite of what I’ve read. I have no problem generating power but needs full swing and I adjust my grip to be more closed on forehand and backhand and it made a huge difference.
It hits much flatter, with a lot of pace, while spin is 70% of H22. My first serve was on fire, 2nd serve pretty good kick, excellent control and hitting corners and put always were just easy. The H19 was a layup for a top 50 men’s ATP pro, I just adjusted to it and after two days, I changed grip mostly. It’s an RF97 with much bigger serve, much more maneuverability, I can whip shots and the 15-17 grams lower weight actually helps as I feel no difference in plow or stability. It is a monster. Two negatives, lots less forgiving than H22 and less spin. That said, keep your eyes on the ball all the Way and the stick is an attacking weapon and still good on defense. Also, no vibration dampener needed.

Overall, if I were playing on clay H22 or as I get older. Grass/Hardcourt and joints less than 45 years old and still healthy H19 makes me feel like when I played competitively in my younger days.

I feel very lucky to have a pair of both as every modern racquet I played with, except the RF97, which is pretty good for me, was NOT good for me. Babolat pure aero, not fun, Yonex v core, okay ground/volley, but serve felt terrible, no pop/no power = no fun.

I’m not sure what they are doing to new racquets these days, H19/H22 has more old school fee to me with modern head size.

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robin1982

Rookie
Anyone tried the h19?

Yes, have them both and other pro stock like PT57A's.
H22 is power with less control and H19 is a freaking canon with precision! But with a high swingweight, 350 +. Most H19's are already high in weight and swingweight so you cant customize them good. Instead of the PT57A's, which you can make perfect to your disired specs.
 

Giuleo

New User
I have tested both H22 in 18x20 and H19 in 16x19. H19 suited better my game, more precision and easier to swing. I am very used to thinner beams, so that helps to explain.
 

Giuleo

New User
Green with envy!! :) I still think that a friend's H22 that I tried once was the best racquet I ever hit with; my problem is that I've played with 28" racquets for around twenty years now, and even if I extended an H22 to 28" frankenracquet style - blasphemous I know :eek: - the swingweight and control would probably be unmanageable. Still wondering about a 27.5" H22; it would probably serve better than my 28"s anyway lol! These seem to come up occasionally. Enjoy!!
I have a H22 in 18x20 and 27.75 lenght, Blade BLX PJ. Belonged to a top 200 atp player. I am not using it, hit me a message if you are interested
 
Sure, can you comment on grip size, static weight and balance etc. and whether pallets are Head or Wilson shape, and if the racquet has been extended, or was cut at that length? Thanks, JMac
 
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