Wilson H22 Users Club

[ppressure]

Here are my specs:

Volkl Cyclone 19g at 40lbs
Lead: 2 grams at 12, at 3 and 9
TW leather grip and wilson overgrips and panda dampener
Static Weight 343g 12.1 ounces
Balance 9 pts HL 12 3/8 12.375 (31.4325cm)
Swingweight: 332

Great Specs! Your H22s must have come at a really head light balance with lots of silicone in the handle. How do they play with such a thin string? Doesn't the control suffer at 19g and such a low tension? I play them with a 1,25mm poly at 22kg and already find the power hard to reign in sometimes. How are you liking yours? I've never seen such a soft yet stable racket before.

 

[asifallasleep]

Great Specs! Your H22s must have come at a really head light balance with lots of silicone in the handle. How do they play with such a thin string? Doesn't the control suffer at 19g and such a low tension? I play them with a 1,25mm poly at 22kg and already find the power hard to reign in sometimes. How are you liking yours? I've never seen such a soft yet stable racket before.

Thanks! Last night was the first time I played with these specs. You are so right. I lost a lot of control, but the easy power was bonkers. Heavy spin with lots of rpms kept the ball in. I now see where the H22 has twice the power of the RF97. It's unreal. And yes, they are filled with silicone. Ironically I am not sure if I like softness at this level, which is hilarious but I may just have to get used to it. The softness combined with my low tension and thin strings gave me a bit of uncertainty with where the ball was going at times. I'm sure I could get used to it. I've been rotating my RF97's, H22's (16X19), H19's (16X19) and Wilson Rok 93's. The H22 is by far the most powerful. I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up at your string gauge and tension. Returning serve and serving with the H22 is so effortless. I think this is where it really really shines for me.

 

[BomBomBecker]

Hi guys, can anyone help me is this a Blade Pro or an H22?
Tnks!

 

[USPTARF97]

My answer would be both but the string pattern is the same as my new Blade Pro frames.

 

[BomBomBecker]

My answer would be both but the string pattern is the same as my new Blade Pro frames.

Thanks for the answer, I think it's H22, and the weight is 298 grams

 

[USPTARF97]

Blade Pros are H22. H22’s come in different string patterns and different specs but they have the H22 material lay up.

 

[SinneGOAT]

Hi guys, can anyone help me is this a Blade Pro or an H22?
Tnks!

It’s an H22. The throat marking where it says the specs mimics the standard 98 like a pro stock would, rather than an H22. Also it’s got a leather grip and weighs 298, meaning weight hasn’t been added, while a blade pro would be 305 unstrung. Looks like you’ve got an H22, and a sweet one too. At least that’s my guess.

 

[BomBomBecker]

It’s an H22. The throat marking where it says the specs mimics the standard 98 like a pro stock would, rather than an H22. Also it’s got a leather grip and weighs 298, meaning weight hasn’t been added, while a blade pro would be 305 unstrung. Looks like you’ve got an H22, and a sweet one too. At least that’s my guess.

Thanks man !! I think the same, also it have silicon in it

 

[BomBomBecker]

..and it have 298 grams without leather grip.. I think it is h22

 

[BomBomBecker]

I did measure with all the spec, and it is H22 according to stiffness:

Strung swing weight = 345
Stiffness = 60
Strung balance = 330 mm
Strung weight = 329gr

 

[asifallasleep]

Does anyone else feel that their H22's feel and swing like a 95?

Oh, and once you get your ideal specs, the H22 IMO will make you the best player you can be. I'm actually stunned at the difference in power and maneuverability I get with mine compared to my H19's, RF97's and any other frame i've ever hit with. I've made similar statements with other frames, but this stick has me hitting shots i've got no business hitting from insanely defensive positions and flicking my wrists and hitting screaming winners. It feels like an extension of my arm. Almost like cheating to be honest. I still prefer the feel of my RF97, my H22's are fairly soft, but the ease of use and my resultsI can't argue with. The power with this thing is completely bonkers: Mind-blowing.

 

[Ventoux]

My H22 are pretty powerful, especially compared to H19s (18 x 20). The downside is that I feel that they are a very broad brush, I'm not sure exactly what's going to happen from the racquet contact alone. You definitely need to use a lot of spin for control.

 

[asifallasleep]

@haegger I said it once and was educated on the differences!
Looking at the pictures again of the first blacked out frames that Federer used in 2013 there was no PWS.
https://federerfan07.com/2013/07/16/federer-confirms-switch-to-98-inch-racquet/
These were the frames he tried for 2 tournaments before going back to the PS90. One could speculate that these were H22 frames.
In 2014 Federer started to use the blacked out 97 with PWS as we know it today.

My two blacked out 16X19 H22's look exactly like the ones Fed briefly tried with the velvet paint job.

Specs are :

Static Weight 340-341 grams 12.0 ounces
Balance 9 pts HL 12 3/8 12.375 (31.4325cm)
Swingweight: 335

Volkl Cyclone 19g at 40lbs
TW Tungsten tape: 2 grams at 12
TW Tungsten putty: 4 grams in buttcap
Wilson Black Leather Grip
Wilson overgrip and panda dampener

 

[dl32]

I started with H22 16x19 and those felt too powerful, had great spin and decent feel but I really didn’t feel comfortable hitting to small spaces/tight lines. Really needed to aim “big.”

Subsequently, went to and H22 18x20, and it did what exactly what I wanted without losing too much spin but gaining a lot of precision.

I also have some PT57A’s in both 16x19 and 18x20, both are great but I can do more with the 16x19 without losing any precision or feel, which is kind of nuts.

Finally, my go to sticks are my PT113B2’s.
I won’t get into too much details as I could go on forever, but I refer to these as my video game cheat code rackets and that is not an exaggeration. I can literally do anything and everything with power, spin or flat, along with precision.

It’s fun having all of them and going back to some old sticks every now and then, that said I rank as follows:

1. PT113B - (ignoring Novak novelty, it’s not fair we cannot just purchase non-customized frames to spec up, it’s just that good)
2. H22 (Lower RA around 61, monster frame)
3. PT57A 16x19 (very close third, just requires more focus to get the most out of it)
4. PT57A 18x20 (I don’t like working so hard to generate spin, otherwise great st
5. H19 16x19 (RA 63, didn’t discuss as I rank it way below any of the above)

For reference, I spec up to SW 350, Static 350 and balance about 320, of course this is strung.

Finally, a 60/61 RA H22 in 18x20 is just a monster. It does everything really well offensively or defensively. It would be my go to if I didn’t sell my soul to the 113B dark side!

 

[AM75]

I wasn't ready for the fact that H22 18x20 will be so much better (mostly re: power) than my faithful Blades 98 2015.

 

[greg280]

Just got 2 h22 16x19 blacked out personal test frames of dimitrov that he was testing at last year's wimbledon. His strings, his specs. they are 12.3, 32.5 balance.

 

[greg280]

Just got 2 h22 16x19 blacked out personal test frames of dimitrov that he was testing at last year's wimbledon. His strings, his specs. they are 12.3, 32.5 balance.

vs 1.30 in mains, 4g 16l crosses...... plays like a dream.

 

[initialize]

vs 1.30 in mains, 4g 16l crosses...... plays like a dream.

Jealous! Where did you get them from?

I actually have 2 Dimitrov test frames as well. Head PT57Es in 16x19 pattern.

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

Just got 2 h22 16x19 blacked out personal test frames of dimitrov that he was testing at last year's wimbledon. His strings, his specs. they are 12.3, 32.5 balance.

NICE!!!

 

[greg280]

They look great in flat black paint, black power pads...those are his, i dont use power pads.....L5 grip with wilson leather.

 

[greg280]

The source wanted to remain anonymous....i mean, to me also! another friend of mine who has connections, told me about this guy. aside from email, paypal, i dont know who he is.

 

[initialize]

They look great in flat black paint, black power pads...those are his, i dont use power pads.....L5 grip with wilson leather.

Dimitrov uses an L5 grip? Dang his hands are big lol

 

[USPTARF97]

Dimitrov uses an L5 grip? Dang his hands are big lol

Dimitrov uses a L4 grip with a tourna overwrap. Been experimenting with a bit lighter frame due to shoulder issues but hasn’t changed the grip size.

 

[yourtennisfit]

Got my hands on a pair of H22's 18x20 with a 60RA and 320 static weight (haven't yet measured SW myself).

They are currently strung with Alu Power from the pro using them previously, but I would rather not triple my string budget here
With Head Lynx Tour - which tension would you start off with? Previously, I have strung my other 18x20 rackets at around 22-23 kgs and was happy with it.
Would the H22 differ because of power level?

 

[greg280]

wrong.... L5.... As per the ones i have now and the other ones i have in tuxedo paint with the 18x17 pattern.

 

[greg280]

have had a few L4 of his in the past. L5 on his current frame. i have his current pro staff 18x17 racquet that uses and its an L5 and under the wilson leather he has masking tape on the handle which makes it a hair bigger.

 

[USPTARF97]

That’s interesting. I’ve seen a stack of his frames to be strung and they were all L4. If you research his latest specs and also his specs on Prostock tennis they are all L4. Strange for a player to go up a grip size.
Guess the main thing is if the grip fits you. Awesome frames for sure.

 

[greg280]

yes, interesting.......... also on prostock there is a recent frame in L5 as well as the one in L4.

 

[greg280]

also on stringforum there are several listed for sale with pics in L5. however, also an older one in L4

 

[USPTARF97]

No wonder Dimitrov is having so many problems. If he is switching back and forth from a L4 to L5 and also constantly changing the weight and balance of the frame.

 

[greg280]

Totally! the 2 tuxedo paint pro staffs of his i got last year were L5, but with his older specs which were 12.5, 33cm balance. These wimbledon 2021 test h22 were again, L5, but much lighter in weight and balance.... 12.2, 32.2 balance. He was always a 17 gauge gut guy, but these had 16 vs in the mains

 

[Geoff]

No wonder Dimitrov is having so many problems. If he is switching back and forth from a L4 to L5 and also constantly changing the weight and balance of the frame.

A friend of mine toured the Wilson innovation center in Chicago while attending the IART Stringers Symposium. In the pro room Ron Rocchi stated that Dmitrov makes more switches and/or tweaks to his frame than any one else. The players frames were on a wall and Dmitrov took up the most space. I don't know if this article has been posted before but it gives a good perspective of the Wilson innovation center https://www.midtown.com/blog/midtown-member-wilson-innovator-ron-rocchi

 

[greg280]

Thanks for that Geoff....

 

[DavidBart]

Has the H22 ever been made in an 18x19 pattern?
It could be my perfect racquet. The 18x20 is my choice, but the 16x19 is has more power and feels faster. (I guess those extra strings take up a lot of the real estate on the 98" head in) The launch angle is also so different so I don't see myself switching permanently and loosing the control and confidence. I did hear they made some rare 16x20.
So, I just bought the Graphene Prestige MP, cause for $120... It's close on paper, but in feel I'd never guess it. I'll continue customizing it, but it's no H22. More powerful, but feels a bit flimsy in comparison. Not as solid, and definitely not as accurate. Also, the head on it looks much bigger than the one inch difference.

 

[Alcaraz]

Is this racket a h22?

Im new to pro stock rackets so I don't know.

owner says its weighting 315g strung

https://imgur.com/a/QmMV1JL

 

[Soho78]

Is this racket a h22?

Im new to pro stock rackets so I don't know.

owner says its weighting 315g strung

https://imgur.com/a/QmMV1JL

looks like it. I know some of the older version had a lighter (290g) static unstrung weight.

 

[oldmanyellingatcloud]

Has anyone compared the H22 or the Blade Pro for that matter with the Boom Pro?

 

[Alcaraz]

looks like it. I know some of the older version had a lighter (290g) static unstrung weight.

Do you know where can I find some bumpers and grommets for an h22? The only thing stoping me from buying it is the heavily damaged bumper. Owner says its been used for 1 year.

 

[Soho78]

Do you know where can I find some bumpers and grommets for an h22? The only thing stoping me from buying it is the heavily damaged bumper. Owner says its been used for 1 year.

next to impossible to find.

 

[t-pain1991]

I've been using the nblade 98 for a while and was looking for a second one on the big auction site. Found one that was in pretty good condition for a decent price. The seller listed it as a Nblade 98 but when I opened the box, it doesn't match my nblade at all (see pics below). The beam is different and on the top of the grommet at 12 o'clock, there is no white ncode grommet thing. Is this an h22? Did the h22 date all the way back to the nblade paintjob?

 

[Titochop77]

I've been using the nblade 98 for a while and was looking for a second one on the big auction site. Found one that was in pretty good condition for a decent price. The seller listed it as a Nblade 98 but when I opened the box, it doesn't match my nblade at all (see pics below). The beam is different and on the top of the grommet at 12 o'clock, there is no white ncode grommet thing. Is this an h22? Did the h22 date all the way back to the nblade paintjob?

Did you buy from someone in Florida ? Looks like my old h22

 

[t-pain1991]

Did you buy from someone in Florida ? Looks like my old h22

The guy who sold it to me is from Hoffman Estates, Illinois. I got it for $90

 

[Classic-TXP-IG MID]

The guy who sold it to me is from Hoffman Estates, Illinois. I got it for $90

Great purchase! Hopefully it plays awesome.

 

[t-pain1991]

Can someone help me confirm if this is also an H22?

 

[BallBasher247]

Can someone help me confirm if this is also an H22?

This is a Wilson Steam 100 painted w/ a 2015 Blade paintjob. The fact that it’s 16x20 gives it away. It’s most likely extended a bit (27.25” long). This is the same racket Emma Raducanu & a bunch of other WTA players use

 

[dl32]

Has the H22 ever been made in an 18x19 pattern?
It could be my perfect racquet. The 18x20 is my choice, but the 16x19 is has more power and feels faster. (I guess those extra strings take up a lot of the real estate on the 98" head in) The launch angle is also so different so I don't see myself switching permanently and loosing the control and confidence. I did hear they made some rare 16x20.
So, I just bought the Graphene Prestige MP, cause for $120... It's close on paper, but in feel I'd never guess it. I'll continue customizing it, but it's no H22. More powerful, but feels a bit flimsy in comparison. Not as solid, and definitely not as accurate. Also, the head on it looks much bigger than the one inch difference.

I went back and forth for a while, 16x19 requires super a lot of tips in to tame the power. 18x20 plays with a launch’s angle that is much preferable. It has fantastic control and good enough spin.

 

[Power Player]

I had both and prefer the 16x19 mainly because I hit with a lot of topspin. It is very rewarding to the low to high swing path, but will punish if you take slaps at the ball.

 

[dl32]

I had both and prefer the 16x19 mainly because I hit with a lot of topspin. It is very rewarding to the low to high swing path, but will punish if you take slaps at the ball.

Agreed across the board. 18x20 is versatile for an 18x20. You slap and get 70-80% of the spin without too much effort.

 

[DavidBart]

Does anyone know about the different layups in H22's and how to identify them? I have 3 18x20s and all 3 are different. I like one and would want to pick up another one just like it. Even the weight distribution is slightly different with everything removed, and I can't get them matched, even though my customizer says on paper they match.

 

[H22 fan]

Does anyone know about the different layups in H22's and how to identify them? I have 3 18x20s and all 3 are different. I like one and would want to pick up another one just like it. Even the weight distribution is slightly different with everything removed, and I can't get them matched, even though my customizer says on paper they match.

You need to remove the foam handle and will find there the label with layup, mold. H22’s need to be bought in pairs to avoid your situation.