Yonex EZONE 2020 AO

Faris

Professional
Does the new Ezone have Isometric written on it somewhere? I sold my 2020 last week and I had an interesting discussion with a friend who was claiming they have stopped advertising this line as Isometric.... (even though it shows isometric in TW listing under technologies). My VCORE SV Says isometric on hoop but don't know abt new ezone..
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Does the new Ezone have Isometric written on it somewhere? I sold my 2020 last week and I had an interesting discussion with a friend who was claiming they have stopped advertising this line as Isometric.... (even though it shows isometric in TW listing under technologies). My VCORE SV Says isometric on hoop but don't know abt new ezone..

The 98 has ISOMETRIC in all caps at the tip. You could always cover it with lead tape haha.
 

haqq777

Legend
Does the new Ezone have Isometric written on it somewhere? I sold my 2020 last week and I had an interesting discussion with a friend who was claiming they have stopped advertising this line as Isometric.... (even though it shows isometric in TW listing under technologies). My VCORE SV Says isometric on hoop but don't know abt new ezone..
It does, just like @gutfeeling above pointed out. They are definitely advertising this as isometric. It's their specialty after all. I never gelled with Yonexes even though I really tried to, and I'm guessing it is because of this shape but that is all on me and not the racquet's fault. The racquet is fantastic.

 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
It does, just like @gutfeeling above pointed out. They are definitely advertising this as isometric. It's their specialty after all. I never gelled with Yonexes even though I really tried to, and I'm guessing it is because of this shape but that is all on me and not the racquet's fault. The racquet is fantastic.


If you give the Ezones another try, try some lead at the tip if you haven't already. I tend to hit high on the stringbed so that lead placement raises the sweet spot a little. Also I prefer sticks with at least 320 sw and it seems like a lot of Ezones are coming in well below that. Mine were 307 before lead.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Hey gut... can you explain why lower twist weight and lower vibration frequency is a good thing..thanks

Lower vibration frequency means the frame has lower dynamic stiffness. This is a function of layup (materials used) and weight distribution. So when I see a frame with 140 hz vibration frequency and 13.8 twist weight that tells me the frame is likely to feel soft on ball impact and has a polarized weight distribution. In my experience this is a high performing combination. It is also a trend we have been seeing on the tours over the past 5-10 years.
 

Alexh22

Professional
Hey guys, why are people selling their like new 2020 EZ98 so soon. Look at the fs section of our forum. They got abandoned. Is there anything wrong with these ? I like my ez but Should I switch to these new ones ?
 

Crashbaby

Semi-Pro
Lots of people going through hard times and also with many not being allowed to play, maybe being up for sale is not a reflection of the racquets performance?
 

dr. godmode

Hall of Fame
Lower vibration frequency means the frame has lower dynamic stiffness. This is a function of layup (materials used) and weight distribution. So when I see a frame with 140 hz vibration frequency and 13.8 twist weight that tells me the frame is likely to feel soft on ball impact and has a polarized weight distribution. In my experience this is a high performing combination. It is also a trend we have been seeing on the tours over the past 5-10 years.
Yeah I love a 139 hz spec. Some of my favorite sticks are in the range, Pure Storm GT, Gravity MP, VCore 95. Vibration frequency is the best spec for comparing feel. Much more accurately than RA.
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
The time has come. Let’s see if this will make me return to the Yonex family. Since the DR line haven’t found a reason yet..... on wall bounce it felt more soft/plush than 100 version.

22kg YPTP / Kimoni OG

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Ps: grip 2 is like grip 3 of DR....glad i went for a smaller grip size.
 
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TforTommy

Semi-Pro
coming from previous pure drive and the currently using my old 98s.

Hows everyones experience with the 100 compared to. the 98? Decided to buy a set of the 98 but they havent arrived yet. just because i've heard it's much more plush. But how do you guys like the 100?
 

Jster

Professional
Ok here’s a stupid thought, because that’s all I’ve been having this quarantine. What if it wasn’t pronounced e-zone like we all say, but if it was pronounced like easy one (ez-one). You see like the e and the z pronounced separate. But I gueiss that implies there will be an ez two (easy two) which I’m not sure will happen. Like I said dumb thought but that’s what pops up in my mind.
you sound like a really young and inquisitive boy.
I like that.
I have taken some initiative to help you out here,
it is e-zone , or yi-zone
because TW said so.
article taken from more than 8 years ago


tadaaaaaaaaaaaa
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
I play with ezone 100 about a month. The frame is comfortable and I don't feel it at all 68RA. For me power and rotation are pure aero. Racket very nice for service, maybe a little less for the net
I've put some lead @ 12 on mine, and it gave the frame more "stick" around the net and just a generally more solid feel. Also tried it @ 3/9, but that didn't seem to improve anything.

If you ask me, the 100 feels and plays like a more user-friendly Gravity pro.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Has anybody else noticed the 20 ezones want to "squash" more when stringing compared to the earlier versions, which seem to elongate?

Think this is related to the more conventional hoop shape.
 

McLovin

Legend
Has anybody else noticed the 20 ezones want to "squash" more when stringing compared to the earlier versions, which seem to elongate?

Think this is related to the more conventional hoop shape.
By 'earlier versions', are you referring to the previous line & the Xi line? Because Ai98 & Dr98 are essentially the same mold as the 2020 EZONE (w/ a slightly different drill pattern).
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Has anybody else noticed the 20 ezones want to "squash" more when stringing compared to the earlier versions, which seem to elongate?

Think this is related to the more conventional hoop shape.

I had a similar impression for the 98. I think the frame geometry is actually slightly different than the previous version. The head is slightly wider in my opinion. Also a hoop typically measures 13.5” from the bridge to the tip, but this version only measures 13”.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
I've put some lead @ 12 on mine, and it gave the frame more "stick" around the net and just a generally more solid feel. Also tried it @ 3/9, but that didn't seem to improve anything.

If you ask me, the 100 feels and plays like a more user-friendly Gravity pro.

I like lead at 12 too on the 98. No issues with stability for me due to the 14+ twist weight stock. The stock swing weight needed a bump for me though.
 

Jster

Professional
Has anybody else noticed the 20 ezones want to "squash" more when stringing compared to the earlier versions, which seem to elongate?

Think this is related to the more conventional hoop shape.

It is a different mold.
see pg 10 under ISOMETRIC (TM) EXPANSION.
"A new frame shape that is wider at the 3 and 9 o’clock positions creates the largest sweet spot in EZONE history."

new =different. new= not the same. LOL

do you thing it is a waste of money to buy astrel 115 and ask ring&roll to extend it to 27 for me?
 

McLovin

Legend
It is a different mold.
see pg 10 under ISOMETRIC (TM) EXPANSION.
"A new frame shape that is wider at the 3 and 9 o’clock positions creates the largest sweet spot in EZONE history."

new =different. new= not the same. LOL

do you thing it is a waste of money to buy astrel 115 and ask ring&roll to extend it to 27 for me?
lol...
Kyrgios said:
“It’s such a comfortable racquet,” says Kyrgios. “Because of the large sweet spot, I can go big at any time everywhere on the court.”
Yeah...since his actual frame is the Xi98...that they stopped manufacturing for the public 6 years ago...
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
By 'earlier versions', are you referring to the previous line & the Xi line? Because Ai98 & Dr98 are essentially the same mold as the 2020 EZONE (w/ a slightly different drill pattern).
The 20 ezone has a measurably more teardrop shape compared to the DR.

Its exactly 1/8 of an " of more in the upper hoop and that same less in the lower hoop area.

The AI was the last version that was close to this.
 

ericykchan

Rookie
I am playing 2020 ezone 100 and love it, but feel it is still lacking a bit of spin even on my best swing. String setup is Black Code 4S at 47lb. Has anyone compare 2020 ezone 100 with Dunlop SX300?
 

McLovin

Legend
The AI was the last version that was close to this.
You just made my point for me as the Ai98 and Dr98 are from the same mold. I know this because I've used grommets for the Ai98 in my friend's Dr98. The only reason they sell Ai98 and Dr98 grommets separately is that the bridge grommets were colored to match the frame, and the 'yellow' is darker in the Ai98.

I cannot say if this is the same for the Ai/Dr 100.
 

phl92

Hall of Fame
I probably soon buy my first yonex racket on TW Europe. Is there a need to pay for matching service? I watch and read a lot and I noticed that most yonex racket are spot on or really having only not noticeable differences.
I am buying only one racket.
 

25-TENNIS

Semi-Pro
I probably soon buy my first yonex racket on TW Europe. Is there a need to pay for matching service? I watch and read a lot and I noticed that most yonex racket are spot on or really having only not noticeable differences.
I am buying only one racket.
Yonex' quality control is really good, so the specs of the racket you will buy won't be very different to the written specs. And also, if you buy only one, does a difference really matter?
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
I probably soon buy my first yonex racket on TW Europe. Is there a need to pay for matching service? I watch and read a lot and I noticed that most yonex racket are spot on or really having only not noticeable differences.
I am buying only one racket.
Ask them if they will measure the swingweight for you (and weight and balance if you are unable to yourself). Maybe they will do it for free as a courtesy. Then if you buy a second one you will at least have a benchmark.
 

phl92

Hall of Fame
Ask them if they will measure the swingweight for you (and weight and balance if you are unable to yourself). Maybe they will do it for free as a courtesy. Then if you buy a second one you will at least have a benchmark.
you are aware of the fact that this "favour" costs you 20 € euros @ TW Europe :D?
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
you are aware of the fact that this "favour" costs you 20 € euros @ TW Europe :D?
That’s not worth it. If you find a local proshop with the correct equipment they will (should) do it for free to earn your business. Also, for TWE to tell you the actual specs of your racquet, that is not matching, so it does not make sense that they would charge the fee. Have you tried calling them?
 
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gajey66

New User
So I've been noticing on reviews of previous iterations of the standard length vs extended lengths of EZONE racquets (and other standard vs. extended racquets like Pure, Aero, and VCORE), and have noticed that TW Reviewers frequently notice they have a harder time controlling the ball with the extended lengths. Does anyone else find, or know the reasoning behind, why this may be the case that longer racquets may have less control to them? Thanks!
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
So I've been noticing on reviews of previous iterations of the standard length vs extended lengths of EZONE racquets (and other standard vs. extended racquets like Pure, Aero, and VCORE), and have noticed that TW Reviewers frequently notice they have a harder time controlling the ball with the extended lengths. Does anyone else find, or know the reasoning behind, why this may be the case that longer racquets may have less control to them? Thanks!
Higher swing weight and more plow through. For certain sticks, especially stiff ones, that can be a powerful setup. The 98+ will be softer than any pure aero + so that will help tame some of the power.
 

AJvR

Rookie
So I've been noticing on reviews of previous iterations of the standard length vs extended lengths of EZONE racquets (and other standard vs. extended racquets like Pure, Aero, and VCORE), and have noticed that TW Reviewers frequently notice they have a harder time controlling the ball with the extended lengths. Does anyone else find, or know the reasoning behind, why this may be the case that longer racquets may have less control to them? Thanks!
I guess the main issue is more power (compared to the standard length model) and therefore they offer less control. The difference is usually 20 swing weight points, which is very much.
 

haqq777

Legend
Yeah...since his actual frame is the Xi98...that they stopped manufacturing for the public 6 years ago...
Is he playing it stock just with a leather grip on (and OG)? Sat right behind him a few years ago at Cinci where he went on racquet rampage (vs Coric). Also had a chance to buy one of his at Cinci but well, not a fan so didn't.
 
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Faris

Professional
Higher swing weight and more plow through. For certain sticks, especially stiff ones, that can be a powerful setup. The 98+ will be softer than any pure aero + so that will help tame some of the power.
This..agreed. I find they are also harder to use for those coming off standard lengths because of these reasons. The one + length I found easy to use was the current PD, likely because it wasn't that hard to swing for me at mid 320s swingweight.
 

tennisgurl

Semi-Pro
I am playing 2020 ezone 100 and love it, but feel it is still lacking a bit of spin even on my best swing. String setup is Black Code 4S at 47lb. Has anyone compare 2020 ezone 100 with Dunlop SX300?
What was your racquet before this? Ezones have 8 mains in throat and are more denser in middle. That makes them slightly more controlled than some other tweeners in the market, IMO. That said with mid 40s tension most polys should give you more than ample spin. Have you tried any other strings in it? I have played CX200 not the SX300 and that one I felt was similarly more on control side of things.
 

McLovin

Legend
Is he playing it stock just with a leather grip on (and OG)?
That's the word on the street:
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Sat right behind him a few years ago at Cinci where he went on racquet rampage (vs Coric). Also had a chance to buy one of his at Citi Open but well, not a fan so didn't.
Was that at last year's Citi Open? I watched him live vs Kwiatkowski. Snuck into the lower levels (really just followed the herd as we bum-rushed the stadium personnel). Ended up two boxes over from his 'crew' (was on TV a bunch of times as he went over & chatted with them).

As I'm sure you know, he went on a racquet rampage at that tournament as well, and had to have his father overnight a bunch of his sticks so he could play in the finals. I think he was down to one?

I root for him to pull an Agassi and clean his act up, just a bit. He's undeniably talented, and I'd like to see what all that talent could do if focused, if only for a year. I don't mind the racquet smashing, and I can deal w/ some of his on-court antics. Its the tanking and sudden 'dark side' turns he can take that rub me the wrong way.
 

haqq777

Legend
That's the word on the street:
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Was that at last year's Citi Open? I watched him live vs Kwiatkowski. Snuck into the lower levels (really just followed the herd as we bum-rushed the stadium personnel). Ended up two boxes over from his 'crew' (was on TV a bunch of times as he went over & chatted with them).

As I'm sure you know, he went on a racquet rampage at that tournament as well, and had to have his father overnight a bunch of his sticks so he could play in the finals. I think he was down to one?

I root for him to pull an Agassi and clean his act up, just a bit. He's undeniably talented, and I'd like to see what all that talent could do if focused, if only for a year. I don't mind the racquet smashing, and I can deal w/ some of his on-court antics. Its the tanking and sudden 'dark side' turns he can take that rub me the wrong way.
Yep, definitely looks like leather with (sometimes a very badly wrapped) overgrip.

Yes, I was there last year just for one day. Was a guest at the fancy M & C Stadium Club suite. Pretty amazing experience. Saw Kyrgios play Nishioka. So damn jealous how he serves so effortlessly.

I remember that whole part about Nick running out of racquets. There was this whole story about FedEx senior VP pulling strings and all. Pretty wild. I had a chance to buy one of his racquets at Cinci, not Citi Open. Mistyped. Sorry. At Citi Open I think he had this brown backpack with a couple of racquets and didn't even have the full 12 pk bag if I'm not mistaken.

Definitely talented as I think anyone who watches tennis would agree. I just don't like his personality on or off the court even though I know he might be a very nice guy in reality (and also runs his charity too). In fact one of the reasons why he ran out of racquets was because he donated one or two to charities in Atlanta before the Citi Open I read up. Anyway tried rooting for him several times and I end just wanting the other guy to win. Oh well.
 

Pekoms

Rookie
For lots of spin potencial (full swing) whats the best frame size to go ? 98 or 100 ? I'm torwards to the 100 for the more forgiving sweetspot, but spin potencial is very important in my game because of my semi western 2/3 grip

Currently playing with AeroPro Drive 100SQ.
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
2 points after my first session with ez98.

1) it definitely needs weight (i overswing) on 10/2 or 12 position. Where did you placed it, how many grams and how it responded ?

2) YPTP feels too plastic and doesn’t complement it. I will try hyper G or strike next.

The first positive is like most yonex racquet it serves bombs on every kind of serve and just effortlessly...
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Yep, definitely looks like leather with (sometimes a very badly wrapped) overgrip.

Yes, I was there last year just for one day. Was a guest at the fancy M & C Stadium Club suite. Pretty amazing experience. Saw Kyrgios play Nishioka. So damn jealous how he serves so effortlessly.

I remember that whole part about Nick running out of racquets. There was this whole story about FedEx senior VP pulling strings and all. Pretty wild. I had a chance to buy one of his racquets at Cinci, not Citi Open. Mistyped. Sorry. At Citi Open I think he had this brown backpack with a couple of racquets and didn't even have the full 12 pk bag if I'm not mistaken.

Definitely talented as I think anyone who watches tennis would agree. I just don't like his personality on or off the court even though I know he might be a very nice guy in reality (and also runs his charity too). In fact one of the reasons why he ran out of racquets was because he donated one or two to charities in Atlanta before the Citi Open I read up. Anyway tried rooting for him several times and I end just wanting the other guy to win. Oh well.
I was at his match against tsitsipas at the Citi Open. His serve is unreal and he moves and anticipates really well for a big guy. From what I’ve seen over the years his strung spec with overgrip is roughly 340 gram, 31 cm, 322 sw. That corresponds to the xi 98 with a leather and maybe a few grams of lead under the bumper. Having played the xi 98, that frame is rock solid and doesn’t need much additional weight in my opinion. The current ezone 98 does a good job of replicating that solidity with a little less weight to lug around.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
2 points after my first session with ez98.

1) it definitely needs weight (i overswing) on 10/2 or 12 position. Where did you placed it, how many grams and how it responded ?

2) YPTP feels too plastic and doesn’t complement it. I will try hyper G or strike next.

The first positive is like most yonex racquet it serves bombs on every kind of serve and just effortlessly...
I didn’t gel with PTP in this frame either initially, I may have strung it too tight. 4G at low tension works well. Firm combo. I will try PTP 1.25 one more time though.

The 98 has sufficient twist weight stock imo so I only added weight to the tip. I added 4 grams which made the strung sw 320. You may not need that much depending on the starting spec of your frame. At minimum I would add 2 grams though. Not sure if I would be able to feel the difference of 1 gram only.
 

Faris

Professional
I was at his match against tsitsipas at the Citi Open. His serve is unreal and he moves and anticipates really well for a big guy. From what I’ve seen over the years his strung spec with overgrip is roughly 340 gram, 31 cm, 322 sw. That corresponds to the xi 98 with a leather and maybe a few grams of lead under the bumper. Having played the xi 98, that frame is rock solid and doesn’t need much additional weight in my opinion. The current ezone 98 does a good job of replicating that solidity with a little less weight to lug around.
I was there too in his match vs Stefanos! Was in the upper decks area with a few buddies. My parents place is not far from Rock Creek Park Tennis Center.. Yeah I was watching Kyrgios a while back and he answered an online question I think where he said he doesn't use lead tape. Said used to as a junior sometimes but now he doesn't need it (thought that was weird but whatever)..
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
I didn’t gel with PTP in this frame either initially, I may have strung it too tight. 4G at low tension works well. Firm combo. I will try PTP 1.25 one more time though.

The 98 has sufficient twist weight stock imo so I only added weight to the tip. I added 4 grams which made the strung sw 320. You may not need that much depending on the starting spec of your frame. At minimum I would add 2 grams though. Not sure if I would be able to feel the difference of 1 gram only.

I have to agree that it feels so solid despite such low SW. Super stable also on shots outside SS. But i tend to overswing cause it feels/plays too HL. 4G is my main string on Blade.... I ll give it a try cause YPTP has almost no pop/plushness at all. Also to add VCore98 played better for my 1HB but it doesn’t have the softness or the feel of ezone for a more all around game. It plays stiffer.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
Right here, found it!!

I’m going to have to veto Nick on this one: “I used lead tape when I was younger to get more racquet head speed.” Hmmm. My guess is he had his sticks matched with lead as a junior, probably close to stock swingweight. Now the custom sticks yonex makes him are probably zero tolerance or close to it so no need for lead. I assume generally there are provisions in pro endorsement contracts that limit to what extent they can share the true nature of their equipment. Either that or they simply just don’t care and focus instead on their play and match prep.
 

AA7

Hall of Fame
My guess would be an SW similar to the VCP HD, which is around 326. I would be very surprised if they go above 330 SW. The whole "softer base" thing is very intriguing, maybe they removed the whole M40X thing from the throat lol
Thats probably likely.. not sure what they mean by 5mm more balance. Is that more HL or less HL? 315gr with balance south of 6 will probably be high 320s sw if not 330s. it will be a demanding stick... if its more hl then it really looks like a vcp hd specs...mid 320s sw
 
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