Zverev at 21 vs Nadal at 21

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Some people on here are hyping Zverev way too much so just wanted to put a little perspective on this thing.

Slams won:
Nadal: 3
Zverev: 0

Masters won:
Nadal: 11
Zverev: 3

Slam QFs reached (or better):
Nadal: 8
Zverev: 0

Zverev in this era is considered a booming young star but the truth is that even with cakewalk draws and a pathetic field he can’t even touch Nadal, even Nadal at 19 has better stats than him but I wanted to show you just how wide the margin is between this era and the next.

Vamos!
 
Red Rick

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paranoidandroid said:
Some people on here are hyping Zverev way too much so just wanted to put a little perspective on this thing.

Slams won:
Nadal: 3
Zverev: 0

Masters won:
Nadal: 11
Zverev: 3

Slam QFs reached (or better):
Nadal: 8
Zverev: 0

Zverev in this era is considered a booming young star but the truth is that even with cakewalk draws and a pathetic field he can’t even touch Nadal, even Nadal at 19 has better stats than him but I wanted to show you just how wide the margin is between this era and the next.

Vamos!
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Record vs top 50 players in Grand Slams?
 
MichaelNadal

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Well everyone can't be epic ;)
Or look like Johnny Sins.....

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Zebrev

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Do a comparison of Fed and Nadal at 21, and prove that Nadal is greater. No one compares well to Nadal at the same age, save a few players from the 80's.

I actually think it's not the fans that are setting the standards for Zverev too high, but the haters. If you think Zverev has too match the young Nadal to be a great player, then you are the one who have to rein in your expectations, not us fans. :)
 
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thrust

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paranoidandroid said:
Some people on here are hyping Zverev way too much so just wanted to put a little perspective on this thing.

Slams won:
Nadal: 3
Zverev: 0

Masters won:
Nadal: 11
Zverev: 3

Slam QFs reached (or better):
Nadal: 8
Zverev: 0

Zverev in this era is considered a booming young star but the truth is that even with cakewalk draws and a pathetic field he can’t even touch Nadal, even Nadal at 19 has better stats than him but I wanted to show you just how wide the margin is between this era and the next.

Vamos!
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We get it! Nadal is an all time great who peaked early, which is very rare. Zerev has great potential and still the best of the younger players.
 
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Zebrev said:
Do a comparison of Fed and Nadal at 21, and prove that Nadal is greater. No one compares well to Nadal at the same age, save a few players from the 80's.

I actually think it's not the fans that are setting the standards for Zverev too high, but the haters. If you think Zverev has too match the young Nadal to be a great player, then you are the one who have to rein in your expectations, not us fans. :)
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All I ask is that he maybe reaches a few slam QFs? Maybe win a slam or two? Can’t be that hard in this era dominated by a 36 year old and a 31 year old who usually disappears after clay.
 
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tennis_pro said:
Nadal's competition: peak Federer (we could end here), Djokovic already knocking on the door, Coria, Roddick, Davydenko, Hewitt etc.
Zverev's competition: Anderson, Isner and Donskoy
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Even with joke competition he can’t touch Rafa, lol.
 
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clareyont

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Zebrev said:
Do a comparison of Fed and Nadal at 21, and prove that Nadal is greater. No one compares well to Nadal at the same age, save a few players from the 80's.

I actually think it's not the fans that are setting the standards for Zverev too high, but the haters. If you think Zverev has too match the young Nadal to be a great player, then you are the one who have to rein in your expectations, not us fans. :)
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Yeah i mean fed and djokovic probably wasnt even winning that much at 20. 21 22 23 they started to get going
 
tennis_pro

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Plamen1234 said:
Nadal peaked very early.If you compare Zverev results at 21 and Djokovic at the same age they are similar at Masters 1000.Djokovic had 4 Masters when he turned 21,Zverev have 3.Though Djokovic won AO plus he faced far better competition than Zverev
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Djokovic's competition was peak Federer/peak Nadal and he still won a lot. Who exactly does Zverev beat?
 
Zebrev

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Zverev haters aren't interested in what he has accomplished, but what he hasn't accomplished. If Zverev loses in RG QF, they will only start saying "until he reaches a Semi..."

But if Zverev makes a slam final, they still won't give him credit. They will just say "look how weak era we live in, that someone like Zverev is in Slam finals". There is nothing Zverev can do or win that will change the mind of certain members. They are set in their ways, and will forever be against him because he has the ego to actually break through and challenge today's great players.

Oh how we wish for a next gen, and when it arrives, we do all we can to not be satisfied with how much they are doing. It's a sad state of affairs.
 
Standaa

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Zebrev said:
Zverev haters aren't interested in what he has accomplished, but what he hasn't accomplished. If Zverev loses in RG QF, they will only start saying "until he reaches a Semi..."

But if Zverev makes a slam final, they still won't give him credit. They will just say "look how weak era we live in, that someone like Zverev is in Slam finals". There is nothing Zverev can do or win that will change the mind of certain members. They are set in their ways, and will forever be against him because he has the ego to actually break through and challenge today's great players.

Oh how we wish for a next gen, and when it arrives, we do all we can to not be satisfied with how much they are doing. It's a sad state of affairs.
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This is on point. We can’t be complaining that “he needs to start winning majors” etc. because we don’t root for him anyways and don’t want him to win them.

I certainly don’t mind him not reaching later stages of majors.
 
Zhilady

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I’d like to see this comparison with Federer. I imagine he’d be a lot closer than with Nadal or Djokovic.
 
Sudacafan

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paranoidandroid said:
Some people on here are hyping Zverev way too much so just wanted to put a little perspective on this thing.

Slams won:
Nadal: 3
Zverev: 0

Masters won:
Nadal: 11
Zverev: 3

Slam QFs reached (or better):
Nadal: 8
Zverev: 0

Zverev in this era is considered a booming young star but the truth is that even with cakewalk draws and a pathetic field he can’t even touch Nadal, even Nadal at 19 has better stats than him but I wanted to show you just how wide the margin is between this era and the next.

Vamos!
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And he did all that during Federer peak. It’s just that the show may be starting to need new faces.
 
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Spider

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You can't compare Nadal with many talents because young Rafa was a tennis prodigy.

Compare them when towards the end of their respective careers. Could be a very different story.
 
aman92

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I think it's unfair to compare Zverev straight with Nadal at this point. As people have already mentioned Nadal was a teenage prodigy the likes of which come once in a generation. I think his record compares favourably to Djokovic and Federer who peaked much later.
 
mellowyellow

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Spider said:
You can't compare Nadal with many talents because young Rafa was a tennis prodigy.

Compare them when towards the end of their respective careers. Could be a very different story.
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Exactly, Rafa beat a confirmed fully mature doper in the RG final as a teen? So that does suggest it's not fair to compare...
 
Legend of Borg

Legend of Borg

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Zebrev said:
Zverev haters aren't interested in what he has accomplished, but what he hasn't accomplished. If Zverev loses in RG QF, they will only start saying "until he reaches a Semi..."

But if Zverev makes a slam final, they still won't give him credit. They will just say "look how weak era we live in, that someone like Zverev is in Slam finals". There is nothing Zverev can do or win that will change the mind of certain members. They are set in their ways, and will forever be against him because he has the ego to actually break through and challenge today's great players.

Oh how we wish for a next gen, and when it arrives, we do all we can to not be satisfied with how much they are doing. It's a sad state of affairs.
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funny thing is, a certain other "rising superstar mega-talent" has just as much attitude as zed but he seems to get a pass by the very same people who hate on zed

yikes
 
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