Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
I measured it strung because it is currently strung and I did it only to provide a measurement for the person I was replying too.
Yonex Vcore Pro 97
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Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
I don't care about such small changes in length, I only measured it out of curiousity to see what they were so I could provide some info for the other poster.
The only time length has been a real issue for me is with 28" racquets.
ProRadTour
Semi-Pro
Mine is around 31.5cm, which I believe is around 9 pts headlight
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Wow, Genie kicking butt with this new racket.
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zettavaska
Rookie
Wow, Genie kicking butt with this new racket.
Does she actually use this one or it’s a paint job?
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what do you think about extending this racket by 1/2 inch ? would it be a better frame if done so ?
zettavaska
Rookie
agree
I'm definitely picking a few of the 330s up. The 330g is what the RF97 should have been. Good feel, controllable power, and room for some lead at the hoop without becoming a rocket launcher. I had a nice 20 hour playtest with this stick, 6 with synthetic gut and 14 with my hybrid of Babolat Tonic 16 mains and Yonex Poly Tour Pro 16L crosses. Great access to spin, good depth, easier to flatten out than the RF97 is, and better feel. I haven't gelled with it on the slice yet and am still working out accuracy on the tight margin shots, but this is easily the most impressive midplus racquet I have hit with. It's not a scalpel like my Pro Staff 90, but it's definitely the easiest transition I've had to a midplus frame.
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ron schaap
Hall of Fame
This is clearly not a Vcore PRO paintjob.Wow, Genie kicking butt with this new racket.
After demoing a lot, i am also picking the Yonex Vcore Pro 97 330g over the RF97. Really happy with the vcore, but i still haven't settled on my string choice.
Syfo-Dias
Professional
I'm loving Klip Legend 16 mains with Luxilon 4g Soft 16L crosses @ 58/55 on mine!
anfield
Semi-Pro
That seems like a great discount version of Champions Choice. I take it the 4g lasts longer than Alu Rough and the Klip and 4G kinda go at the same time?
I finally got a stringer so was going to try to replace the Alu Rough once it died but that seems like a hassle.
Also, I got rid of my Vcore Pro 330g and went to a mix of Tour and Duel G 310 and 330. I'm missing the whip feel of the Pro, but liking the stability. I never could get the VCP 330 to feel stable without throwing too much weight on and defeating the purpose. Basically, it seems really flimsy for its weight, do you agree?
Syfo-Dias
Professional
Yeah I agree the VCP 330 is less stable than the DG330. However, I don't find it to be enough to make me stop using it. For me the extra spin, lower swingweight and softer flex make up for the lower stability. Most things are a compromise I guess.
Just joined the club last night - usedmy Vpro 310 with a full bed of technifibre biphase. Loved the feeling of the racket reminded me of my old RDiS 100 MP. Switching from a vcore xi 98 since it was so stiff. Took a while during warm up to adjust my groundstrokes but planning on making this my main racquet. Want to use a soft poly (mains) and multi blend (crosses) - any suggestions on tension to start on this racquet? I normally string my polys at 50-52 and multis at 56-57.
zettavaska
Rookie
I’ve done 51/55 for a poly/multi hybrid and worked well for me - got over 30 hours of play on it. But still prefer gut/poly in this frame - at 55/50 now but likely will try 56/48 next time
anfield
Semi-Pro
That's the only one I do not own. I demoed it and it was way too stiff. I prefer a weighted up Duel G 310. It's plenty stable. With Gut/Lux Rough it's a dream.
What's bonkers is the difference in actual stiffness from the Tour G 310 and 330, the specs say they are 63 but the 310 plays sooooo much more flexy. I can absolutely go hit all out on the OHBD and I feel the stick working for me. The 330 not so much, same with DG310, but they are almost better on every other shot, besides second serves.
I just got my TG330 to 350g @ 9 Pts HL, with OG. Twas really bored and starting drilling holes in the bumper guard, then strung with 18g poly mains and 18g syn gut. It's so much more solid than a weighted up TG310. I still think the RA numbers are way off with both the TGs being 63.
I'd be curious if they change the beam on the next VCP update.
I finished demoing the 330 a week ago and I also hit with the 310 for an hour during that time so take this with a grain of salt. I thought the 330 felt crisper rather than harsher in comparison to the 310 if that makes sense.
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mscream
Professional
My honeymoon period with the 330 is officially over - I finally realised that I objectively play much better with my customised DR98s, and several people I play with told me the same (more or less direct 
, especially the players better than me). I'm with @anfield on this one; for me the racquet feels not very stable, especially towards the tip, with the weight more towards the throat. This simply does not work well with my kind of strokes (forehand in particular) and with 330 g is not feasible to change that. Going to stick to my DR98s for a while and sell the 330s.
, especially the players better than me). I'm with @anfield on this one; for me the racquet feels not very stable, especially towards the tip, with the weight more towards the throat. This simply does not work well with my kind of strokes (forehand in particular) and with 330 g is not feasible to change that. Going to stick to my DR98s for a while and sell the 330s.
mfpeden
Rookie
What kind of customization do you have on the dr98s?
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My honeymoon period with the 330 is officially over - I finally realised that I objectively play much better with my customised DR98s, and several people I play with told me the same (more or less direct
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Syfo-Dias
Professional
My honeymoon period with the 330 is officially over - I finally realised that I objectively play much better with my customised DR98s, and several people I play with told me the same (more or less direct
Yeah I feel like the one flaw the VCP330 has is lack of stability relative to its weight. I've heard adding a little lead at 10 & 2 helps, but the swingweight is already pretty high.
mscream
Professional
I’m using the mods that @Mareqnyc suggested in his thread; 3g of lead at 12 ( spread with 1/4 tape along the tip). I also have a Wilson buttcap because I like more flare. The weight in the hoop is dynamite for me. The SW is similar to the 330 (higher probably in the DR98) but it plays very differently due to the weight distribution. I actually realized that the “hammer” setup works very well for me, especially with my FH (and serve). I use a close to full western grip with a lot of wrist movement and snap back. Combined with the feel of the DR98, it works great. Helps me to straighten out my shots and get more power and spin into the ball. Only downside is that I break strings within 4h but I can live with that.
Matto
New User
@alidisperanza, what tension are you using in your gut /black knight combo?
alidisperanza
Hall of Fame
@Matto , I think I had it at 52/50 because I was using crapo-gut on a lock-out machine; to wit, my first half-set snapped on me at the grommets when tensioning. If using anything of quality I'd bump this to 54-55 for the gut ~52 for the poly. Keep in mind, I play full beds of poly between #48-50 strung on a crank/lockout machine.
Matto
New User
@alidisperanza, I usually play with black knight in the 48-46 range. In the past I've tried gut and gut hybrids but have only ocationally clicked with it. Would like to give this setup a shot in the VCP. Thanks for the input.
AgressivelyFrames
Rookie
I can say the Vcore pro 97 330 has a substantial power level when I was playtesting it with PTP 17. The vcore 95 seems to be a bit less just from what I can gather from everyone's playtests. String and tension obviously matter quite a bit here, but if everything's kept the same. I'd say the vcores power will be slightly more than the 95
alidisperanza
Hall of Fame
My pleasure, good luck.
PlayBrave
Rookie
HeyTeekawhy, I just came across your playtest video. I was interested to see that you decided to stick with the SV98 and was wondering why you preferred this to the Pro 97 310. In addition to the leather grip, did you try adding any lead tape to increase the power?
smalahove
Hall of Fame
This is not a perhaps the short, straight forward answer you were looking for, but here goes:
I have a couple of VCore Pro 97s (310) that I've been playing for a while. Before that I had the DG97 both in 310 and 330g.
I also own two VCore 98, and just bought a VCore 95.
The 310 version needs a bit of lead to perform ime. Yes, it's playable in stock form, but the frame itself doesn't give you much pop due to the low stiffness I guess. To me, the VCP 97 is a Prestige-type of frame - or TFight 315 Ltd, Ultra Tour asp. The VCore 95, otoh, is a more modern type of player's frame, such as the Textreme Tour 95. I also have the VCore 98, which I've been playing recently, as they make my game more competitive, and it's apparent to me that the VCore 95 and 98 share the same "DNA".
The VCore 95 is a fast swinging racket, and allows and encourages me to swing fast and big - all out. It's entoxicating ;-)
The VCP is even more solid on impact, but it doesn't exactly feel fast (modified with a few g of lead at 3&9).
So to me:
VCP97 = solid, classic feel, capable of hard hitting
VCore 95 = fast, modern pop
Thanks for checking out the video.
The VCP 97 is a great racquet but I felt that it was lacking for some putaway power unlike the SV98.
I added the leather and tried 2g at 12 and 10/2 but then just realized the VCP 100 was what the VCP 97 should have been.
Hope this helps.
PlayBrave
Rookie
Hey Teekawhy, many thanks for the speedy reply.
Did you stick with the SV98? Or have you switched to another frame?
I have been playing with a modified DR98 for the last couple of years - TW leather grip + lead at 10/2 (approx 4g in total).
I have been playing some decent tennis overall (singles and dubs) but for me the DR98 lacks a little feel and touch around the net. And my forehand has been ok but not fully dialled in.
I restrung my old Youtek Prestige Pro a few weeks ago - which felt amazing inside (indoor courts). But tough outside (winter here so heavy/slow conditions).
On the one hand I appreciate the free power of the DR98 in lots of situations. On the other hand, I love the control/precision of the Prestige.
I was hoping the VCore Pro 97 310 (with similar mods to my DR98) would be a decent compromise between the DR98 and the Prestige?
I could probably handle the 330 too but concerned that a leather grip would be a step too far...
PlayBrave
Rookie
After trawling through 31 pages of posts, I was quite surprised to see that you had eventually switched back to the DR98.My honeymoon period with the 330 is officially over - I finally realised that I objectively play much better with my customised DR98s, and several people I play with told me the same (more or less direct
Felt like an unexpected twist in the final chapter of a long novel ;-)
I have been playing with weighted up DR98's for some time now (similar MODs to you) and playing pretty well (both singles and dubs).
I do however miss the control of my old Prestige Pro's (particularly on touch/angled volleys) and there is something missing on my forehand drives (which I can't quite put my finger on).
Was stability the main factor in the end? Or the higher power level and general forgiveness of the DR98?
Also, have you tried the updated Prestige Pro?
Really interested to hear your thoughts as we both seem to play well with the same frame and specs.
mscream
Professional
@PlayBrave
I have never tried the latest Prestige Pro, coincidentally, the only recent Head frame I demoed was the Head Graphene XT Prestige Pro. I selected it based on the specs I found through racquetfinder.com. I felt that the specs were very compatible with my kind of swings but I also thought that it was too powerful for me, had a hard time controlling the ball. I really liked the shape of the grip though.
The VCore Pro 330 ultimately felt like there was mass in the throat but lacking in the hoop, which works well in my opinion if you have more flattish strokes. I naturally gravitate to an almost full Western grip (I also played competitive table tennis whilst I was younger, almost 2 years, after competing in tennis as a junior, was enough to permanently change my strokes) and a lot of pullback on the handle on my forehand. As a result, I found that I play much better with very polarised racquets; modest weight (305 - 310 g) and significant mass in the hoop (SW ~ 335 I think), a.k.a. the hammer setup. Maybe I tried to follow the TTW gospel of high static weight and very head light for too long! I think I could have made it work with the VCore Pro 330 by trying to adjusting my strokes but in the end I did not believe that I would have played more successful. As a left hander, my current style is actually an advantage on clay, at least I would like to believe. To be fair, I'm not really an S&V player, I like to stay behind the baseline, hit big and curl the ball - typical clay court tennis. What also helped to change my opinion is that better players told me that I play better with the DR98, hard to argue with that.
The only problem is that my racquets are getting old and I haven't found anything close to a replacement. Hopefully this year's EZONE will go back to the DR magic wand feeling. Always keen on hearing new suggestions though.
I have never tried the latest Prestige Pro, coincidentally, the only recent Head frame I demoed was the Head Graphene XT Prestige Pro. I selected it based on the specs I found through racquetfinder.com. I felt that the specs were very compatible with my kind of swings but I also thought that it was too powerful for me, had a hard time controlling the ball. I really liked the shape of the grip though.
The VCore Pro 330 ultimately felt like there was mass in the throat but lacking in the hoop, which works well in my opinion if you have more flattish strokes. I naturally gravitate to an almost full Western grip (I also played competitive table tennis whilst I was younger, almost 2 years, after competing in tennis as a junior, was enough to permanently change my strokes) and a lot of pullback on the handle on my forehand. As a result, I found that I play much better with very polarised racquets; modest weight (305 - 310 g) and significant mass in the hoop (SW ~ 335 I think), a.k.a. the hammer setup. Maybe I tried to follow the TTW gospel of high static weight and very head light for too long!
I think I could have made it work with the VCore Pro 330 by trying to adjusting my strokes but in the end I did not believe that I would have played more successful. As a left hander, my current style is actually an advantage on clay, at least I would like to believe. To be fair, I'm not really an S&V player, I like to stay behind the baseline, hit big and curl the ball - typical clay court tennis. What also helped to change my opinion is that better players told me that I play better with the DR98, hard to argue with that. The only problem is that my racquets are getting old and I haven't found anything close to a replacement. Hopefully this year's EZONE will go back to the DR magic wand feeling. Always keen on hearing new suggestions though.
Bruto Maccaroni
New User
I am very happy with this set-up. Have stuck with it for 6 months now. The only change I've made is that I've increased the tension of the gut mains from 52 to 53 pounds.
Mains: Babolat Tonic gut @53
Crosses: Kirschbaum Pro Line II poly 1.25 @47
(strung at home on old drop-weight stringer)
alidisperanza
Hall of Fame
Sounds like a winning combo.
