veroniquem
Bionic Poster
What's the difference?
He IS the GOAT already
So 10 hard court slam titles, 1 away from Fed's 11. Getting there
2019 Australian Open Men’s Singles Final (1) Novak Djokovic V (2) Rafael Nadal
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He IS the GOAT already
So 10 hard court slam titles, 1 away from Fed's 11. Getting there
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And this was on Novak's court...
ST VINCENT FAN
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I take it you don't get the reference from his post match interview after his loss to Rafa
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
He's already done it last time they've played at RG (2015)
The problem for Djoko at RG is that he's vulnerable to other players. Even on hard court (Zverev for instance).
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Djokovic will be gunning for that RG title now, double career slam and second NCYGS up for grabs!
joekapa
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@clayqueen. Next time pay attention to @Hitman.
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Yeah yeah. Now go take a look at the other 5...
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minorchords164
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I wasn't being serious but no, I didn't bother to watch it. Disappointed with his performance and reaction after that match. Only saw his post-match after Federer and thought that was enough.
joekapa
Legend
Hell hath no fury.....LOL, don't provoke her! I am the one she will beat up!
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veroniquem
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I thought Tiafoe would be a test but Tiafoe had the draw from absolute hell and he had to knock out Anderson, Seppi and Dimi just to get to Rafa. Tank was understandably empty.
alexio
G.O.A.T.
my logic is ..i noticed that two lefties going to the final(kvitova and rafa)and both haven't dropped a set and i posted it also in the women's final thread yesterday that if kvitova wins then rafa wins as well..and with kvitova loses, rafa loses too
Sure. The VB have all reasons to be optimistic though. After FO16 it was the exact same difference; 17-14-12. 20-17-15. But back then Fedal fans wasnt very optimistic about Fedal adding to their slam count. Nadal doesnt look like his slowing down, Federer looks finished Im afraid.
joekapa
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I said it will be over in 3. Pouile match showed this.
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All it will take is for Nadal to get upset at RG and then it all changes very dramatically.
Djokovic has hurt him really badly, denying him two slams at W 2018 and AO 2019, which could come to haunt him and be the reason why he does not surpass Federer, because he himself is no in danger of getting passed.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Well, let's not get ahead of ourselvesDjokovic will be gunning for that RG title now, double career slam and second NCYGS up for grabs!
Clay is a different animal. But I'm glad he's solidifying his stellar hard court player status. Fully deserved.
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Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves
No. Lets. Just for today.
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OhYes
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Oh don't mind naggers, it's even worse to complain on affection and love you are radiating than on player you don't like.I appreciate to hear that cause it seems so many feel provoked and even hate that I like @125downthemiddle a lot.
We are like Romeo and Juliet lol Love will keep us strong I hope, but its not easy in this forum.
Situations like this its easy to see what people got in their hearts!
Enjoy your day! I am going out to play in the snow to get a break from tennis.
So don't ever feel bad about true love story. It's like a novel, and it is yours. We can just watch and admire.
I have so many things to do right now, I don't know where to go first
Work will liberate me since I've been bit lazy these 2 weeks. Take care, talk to you soon
minorchords164
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This is getting incredibly close to Astrology or Taro sh%t haha.my logic is ..i noticed that two lefties going to the final(kvitova and rafa)and both haven't dropped a set and i posted it also in the women's final thread yesterday that if kvitova wins then rafa wins as well..and with kvitova loses, rafa loses too
No(t much) hate intended.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Also let's not be too harsh on Nadal. Sure, he's not beating Fed and Djoko on hard. But Fed and Djoko are the 2 best hard court players EVER.
To Nadal's credit he can still beat mostly anyone else on a surface that is not even his best. At almost 33. Respect.
To Nadal's credit he can still beat mostly anyone else on a surface that is not even his best. At almost 33. Respect.
marc45
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- [B]David Law[/B] @[B]DavidLawTennis[/B] 24m24 minutes ago
‘That was one the best, if not the best I’ve ever played in a Grand Slam Final.’ - Novak Djokovic
[B]George Bellshaw[/B]Verified account @[B]BellshawGeorge[/B] 16m16 minutes ago
Nadal: ‘Of course he played fantastic. When he’s playing that way, I need something else. I was not able to have that extra thing tonight. It was unbelievable the way he played.’
Sure. Just saying that the future actually looks brighter now than back in 2016, when he had to retire from FO16. And thats not bad for a 33y old. A lot of people doubted (including myslef) Fedal would win another slam. Now they have 6 more! I still see Rafa as favourite for FO19! If Novak wins that one, things definetly changes dramatically!
marc45
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[B]Simon Cambers[/B] @[B]scambers73[/B] 34s34 seconds ago
Rafa says he needed more matches under his belt, more practice in his legs, to have stood a chance tonight. Proud of his two weeks, though, confident for future. Says Novak played brilliantly and was too good
Rafa says he needed more matches under his belt, more practice in his legs, to have stood a chance tonight. Proud of his two weeks, though, confident for future. Says Novak played brilliantly and was too good
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Novak greeting Becker
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The truth is, we should never count any of them out. It will only be over, when it is over...and it is not over yet.
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marc45
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- [B]Carole Bouchard[/B] @[B]carole_bouchard[/B] 11m11 minutes ago
« I wasn’t ready to play that level tonight. But I believe I can be ready », Rafa
[B]George Bellshaw[/B]Verified account @[B]BellshawGeorge[/B] 8m8 minutes ago
Nadal: ‘I make more mistakes because he push it more. It’s not about being more nervous. Things started so quick.’
marc45
G.O.A.T.
[B]Mike McIntyre[/B] @[B]protennisfan[/B] 1h1 hour ago
Novak Djokovic and Naomi Osaka are the first back-to-back male and female Grand Slam champions since Pete Sampras and Steffi Graf did it in 1995@Wimbledon and the @usopen.
Novak Djokovic and Naomi Osaka are the first back-to-back male and female Grand Slam champions since Pete Sampras and Steffi Graf did it in 1995
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Nadal losing is the best outcome
minorchords164
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So you're saying I should blame Kvitova?.......not astrology..such a parallels that work oftentimes in sports..if you're able to see it
Or Osaka?
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Surprised by how easily Novak won, he's always been able to dominate Nadal on HC but in slams it seemed like it would be tougher, this was like it was a WTF match or something
Not sure Nadal's new aggressive serve and style of play helps vs Novak but maybe he just can't grind iit out either
Still favourite for RG and he can still be a threat at all the slams I think but it seems like at all the slams apart from RG it will be Djokovic's to lose. Can he maintain this form?
Not sure Nadal's new aggressive serve and style of play helps vs Novak but maybe he just can't grind iit out either
Still favourite for RG and he can still be a threat at all the slams I think but it seems like at all the slams apart from RG it will be Djokovic's to lose. Can he maintain this form?
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
And Novak still hasn't lost a final at AO. How impressive is that?
Let's see if he can get to 11 now lol
Let's see if he can get to 11 now lol
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
What a whitewash. A few observations I made:
1) Nadal looked very, very tight and nervous, something quite unusual;
2) In the first 2 sets, Djokovic was going to Nadal's FH side with flat cross court BH quite often, like Federer did in 2017. Maybe Djokovic intentionally tried those shots after watching Rogi having big success with that;
3) Djokovic was so dominant that I wonder if Nadal can beat him even on clay now;
4) I still don't think Djokovic will be as dominant as he was in 2011-2015 this year. He looked unbeatable because Nadal was shocked, rattled and couldn't play better as the result.
1) Nadal looked very, very tight and nervous, something quite unusual;
2) In the first 2 sets, Djokovic was going to Nadal's FH side with flat cross court BH quite often, like Federer did in 2017. Maybe Djokovic intentionally tried those shots after watching Rogi having big success with that;
3) Djokovic was so dominant that I wonder if Nadal can beat him even on clay now;
4) I still don't think Djokovic will be as dominant as he was in 2011-2015 this year. He looked unbeatable because Nadal was shocked, rattled and couldn't play better as the result.
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
And Novak still hasn't lost a final at AO. How impressive is that?
Neither has Zed.
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And Novak still hasn't lost a final at AO. How impressive is that?
Let's see if he can get to 11 now lol
never lost a semi either, just like Nadal at RG
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
I'm not even sure about Nadal on HC. He's been playing great but had a soft draw (So did Djokovic) last year he hardly played on it. He should be a threat but the new aggressive style might not stay if Nadal feels it's not working after this loss
alexio
G.O.A.T.
nopeSo you're saying I should blame Kvitova?.......
Or Osaka?
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
A lot less impressive since Z hasn't REACHED a final yetNeither has Zed.
(but haters won't be laughing anymore when he does )
Roddick85
Hall of Fame
I woke up a bit earlier than usual on a Sunday in hope of catching the last set as I was sure this was going to be a 5 sets marathon. Then I saw the score... This kind of reminds me of Federer at Wimbledon in 2015. Playing some of his greatest tennis in the SF only to get slaughtered by super Novak in the final. I really thought Nadal was going to put up a better fight than this, so I'm stunned. Anyways, congratulation to Djokovic! I just don't see who can stop him on any surfaces right now.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Nadal will be fine. If it had been someone else than Djoko in final, he would probably have won the title. Remember USO 2017? Soft draw can happen again.
That being said, it is already a minor miracle that he's still around and kicking at an age when lots of people predicted he would be in a wheelchair
Not only is he not but he's still rolling over next gen to make tier 1 finals. Hats off.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
yeah its impossible to expect any of them to perform as well as they did in their peak. things can shift very quickly
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
hey atleast fed won a set and was actually up a break in the first if im not mistaken. I am aware ofc fed at wimbledon is not comparable to rafa at AO though. it is true djokovic's form is always tough to read because i feel like out of the big 3, he takes a bit longer to find his footing and is probably more likely to lose sets along the way but then you know if reaches the final he is going to come out guns blazing.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
what kind of cruelty is that, leave grandpa alone.
Roddick85
Hall of Fame
True, and I would also add, when Nadal or Federer or on the other side of the net, it seems like he raises his level even more. I think those match-up motivate him a lot more than against any other guys.
