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Watching TV in general is dying out
Tennis is already dead among the kids in the US because it is all about Football. Basketball and Baseball in the US. That is why over half of the tennis scholarships are awarded to foreign students. As the older population die off there is no one to replace them. I blame the style of the game today and tennis is the only sport where mediocre players earn millions.Tennis is literally dying. Average age of TV viewers of ATP matches was 61 years
Young people have zero interest in watching tennis.
“The sport is dying out, we’re not getting that same intensity, the same love, or new fans anymore."
Noah Rubin interview: 'I don't know if people realise alcohol and substance abuse in tennis is a thing'
Noah Rubin interview: 'I don't know if people realise alcohol and substance abuse in tennis is a thing'
To the casual observer, the life of a professional tennis player is nothing but glamour - the money, the fame, those immaculate white clothes.www.telegraph.co.uk
Tennis is already dead among the kids in the US because it is all about Football. Basketball and Baseball in the US. That is why over half of the tennis scholarships are awarded to foreign students. As the older population die off there is no one to replace them. I blame the style of the game today and tennis is the only sport where mediocre players earn millions.
Been some awkward moments w Former pro "from very long grass time ago where the sport was very different from today times" and young players.If you watch the US commentators, they are all busily fawning on Chris Evert, Tracy Austin, Pam Shriver, and JMac and trying desperately to tie some younger person to some aspect of them, while the entire game has changed into a power one. Moreover, the younger generation cannot relate to these has-beens, whatever their achievements were in eras of tennis domination by a few countries. They try to act as mentors and mother or father figures to the young players in a condescending way, while the younger players don't care about them at all.
You will see that only Federer and not Nadal or Djokovic fawn so much over Laver. They pay the required respect and move on. But Laver doesn't commentate. The commentators are stuck in a time warp and only those who toe the line of praising them seem to be employed.
Been some awkward moments w Former pro "from very long grass time ago where the sport was very different from today times" and young players.
For example this one
Was odd that trophy ceremony.
I dont listen to those commies you are talking about. I prefer without commentators when I watch, and I have that option when I watch tennis. I find commentators too annoying.Laver won on grass and clay and does not commentate so your post seems quite mysterious as to what you are getting at. He is also very much in the loop with the LC.
Quite different from a Brad Gilbert going on and on with his stupid nicknames for players.
I dont listen to those commies you are talking about. I prefer without commentators when I watch, and I have that option when I watch tennis. I find commentators too annoying.
For the younger players now they have been looking up to the big 4 and such. The generations before them are not often mentioned by these youngsters. It is what it is. OP is talking about old crowds in tennis, thats its too old and younger players needed to play the sport as well.
I have no idea how to solve this, but I know my 9 year old son have very little interest for what happened in the 90s and back. How to make tennis fun?
Young people don’t have the time to sit around watching 5 hour finals and SF’s at a time. We can’t jusy watch a tournament for an entire two weeks, we have to work three jobs to earn the same wage as what boomers used to earn in one job. The luxury isn’t there anymore. It’s a changing concept that will be seen across a variety of sports, not just tennis. If you want to be able to afford a house you can’t spend your time sitting in front of a TV watching Isner v Anderson for hours and hours.
Yep, I have to agree, being from Canada, tennis is on the rise for youth. Yes, this has a lot to do with the past 10 years (having some Canadian tennis stars), but many more parents shy away from hockey then in the past due to head injuries.
I grew up playing hockey my whole life and most everyone I knew did too. However, myself and several of my friends have already said they won't let their children play it seriously. It's insanely expensive as well, even in Northern Quebec.
However, if FAA and Shapo can start winning slams, I think tennis will boom here, it is ready for it. I think this is the case for many countries, even the US. Imagine 2 or more Americans in the top 10 winning slams? It would bring popularity back.
I am sure Murray did that for the UK, and others for their countries as well, but America is a huge market.
U.S. ratings or worldwide?
I'm not surprised in the U.S. It's become something of a minor sport. You drive by courts now and no one's playing. Back in the '70's when I was in my teens all the courts were full and people were waiting to play. For whatever reason people stopped playing tennis here. It's strange because it's a sport you can play for practically free and you only need two participants, or just one if you want to hit against a wall. Try playing football or baseball with two players.
Tennis is also a sport you can play for a lifetime. I think Americans in general just participate less in sports. Think of all the time spent playing videogames now. That's taking away time from sports participation.
I think outside of the U.S. tennis is still more popular. Believe it or not but American football and baseball isn't as popular outside the U.S.
Tennis is already dead among the kids in the US because it is all about Football. Basketball and Baseball in the US.
I went to the US open, Mercedes Benz owners got parking hundreds of yards closer to the courts than everyone else...just for owning a Mercedes.
If you watch the US commentators, they are all busily fawning on Chris Evert, Tracy Austin, Pam Shriver, and JMac and trying desperately to tie some younger person to some aspect of them, while the entire game has changed into a power one. Moreover, the younger generation cannot relate to these has-beens, whatever their achievements were in eras of tennis domination by a few countries. They try to act as mentors and mother or father figures to the young players in a condescending way, while the younger players don't care about them at all.
You will see that only Federer and not Nadal or Djokovic fawn so much over Laver. They pay the required respect and move on. But Laver doesn't commentate. The commentators are stuck in a time warp and only those who toe the line of praising them seem to be employed.
Tennis is literally dying. Average age of TV viewers of ATP matches was 61 years
Football is not on the decline. It is football season not and I see all the kids from pee wee to high school practicing now. More young kids get concussions from play soccer than football due to no head protection. There is no correlation to football and CTE.This might have been true in the 90s.
Football may be on the decline.
CTE is real and parents are getting called out on being negligent idiots for letting kids play football.
Football's future may be more on par with MMA and gladiator fighting.
Now, soccer and lax have taken over.
Football is not on the decline. It is football season not and I see all the kids from pee wee to high school practicing now. More young kids get concussions from play soccer than football due to no head protection. There is no correlation to football and CTE.
There is no correlation to football and CTE.
That is stupid! Every play does not result in a violent collision. As I have said before there is not correlation between CTE and football. It is just one man trying to attack the most popular sport in the US because he does not like it. I dont see the same attack on boxing or MMA, because football is a 10 billion dollar sport on the professional level and 10 times that on the college level.Seriously? Every play results in a violent collision where even if the head is not directly impacted, there is mild brain trauma.
Football fan here and played from 6 years old to high school. It had no negative effect on me. DURRRRRRR.
Would never let my kids play knowing what I know now.
Here we go with conspiracy theories! We dont know how Seau got CTE. Yes he played football but there are lots of former players that show no sighs of CTE so you are talking about less that 1 percent so how is that a correlation?Not only is there correlation, there is a strong cover up by the NFL.
Here we go with conspiracy theories! We dont know how Seau got CTE. Yes he played football but there are lots of former players that show no sighs of CTE so you are talking about less that 1 percent so how is that a correlation?
Been some awkward moments w Former pro "from very long grass time ago where the sport was very different from today times" and young players.
For example this one
Was odd that trophy ceremony.
For Zverev too?Seau was on steriods all his life, he reached middle age when testosterone isnt being produced as much and got off the juice. He got depressed and killed himself. Its common. CTE is a comp out to not address his real problems.
Laver is the most respected tennis player on earth, he is like a god to the players.
Here we go with conspiracy theories! We dont know how Seau got CTE. Yes he played football but there are lots of former players that show no sighs of CTE so you are talking about less that 1 percent so how is that a correlation?
For Zverev too?
Zverev is a player boys my son age likes.
Communicate w a child is to do it on the child terms. Talking about having more kids to watch tennis. Bringing Laver in doesn’t help. That’s something for retired generations. Not for kids. I’m referring to OPs message.
A) It's a real shame that so many people on a tennis forum devoted to tennis diehards think tennis is "boring" or "dull."
I love tennis and I come from a lower middle class background. Played on horrible cracked courts with cheap rackets and dead balls.
The problem is that the sport is not great on TV, and the entire culture around the major tournaments is built around catering to wealthy and no one else. A few years ago when I went to the US open, Mercedes Benz owners got parking hundreds of yards closer to the courts than everyone else...just for owning a Mercedes. I sent an e-mail to the USTA, saying this is a pretty poor way of encouraging people of all classes towards tennis, and was ignored. You want to maintain a "country club" aura, you will for the most part only get country club types interested in the sport.
You're always going to get more varied and nuanced responses from avid fans of something. But being critical is usually commonplace for a community of something since they're much more involved.A) It's a real shame that so many people on a tennis forum devoted to tennis diehards think tennis is "boring" or "dull."
B) I wonder why the average age for ATP Tennis is 61, but the average age for WTA Tennis is 55. What gives?
Reality is Montreal just set an attendance record without Djokerer and Cincy without Nadal or any of the Big 3 in the final.Dude I'm basically watching tennis on crappy streams, literally zero TV so nothing is registered in the official stats. I imagine most people in their 20s and 30s who watch tennis are doing exactly what I am doing.
Just because people don't watch tennis on TV or another media outlook doesn't mean they don't enjoy playing the game.
Baseball and basketball dead?A sport that lasts more than an hour and a half is a dead sport.
Grand Slam killed tennis.
Tennis is an age-friendly sport.Yeah but the stats show that the industry sales are decreasing or maybe just staying flat, no growth. It is measured by sales of rackets and balls and other stuff.
Number of frequent rec players is falling.
Existing set of players is aging.
Kyrgios?Tennis is an extremely dull sport to watch on TV. Do not see any solution to this.
I wish they would try new camera angles. The lower angles are so much better to see the speed of the players and ball trajectory. Feels much more intense instead of the almost birds eye view we get most of the time which is completely detached from the energy on the court.
They've got to try more things to make tennis exciting on tv. Even as someone who's taught tennis for half my life and played college tennis I don't care to watch sometimes because of things that need improvement - camera, commentators, etc.
Name them? How many had CTE? All I know of is 2, Mike Webster and Junior Seau. Could this be contributed to steriod use? As I said before there is no correlation to football and CTE more testing needs to be conducted.They've cut open the brains of like 200 former NFL players
A) It's a real shame that so many people on a tennis forum devoted to tennis diehards think tennis is "boring" or "dull."
Baseball is a sport that I do not know, nobody talks about it in Europe. N-o-b-o-d-y.Baseball and basketball dead?
With the younger gen, baseball is practically dead. Basketball (at least in US) is very alive and well.Baseball is a sport that I do not know, nobody talks about it in Europe. N-o-b-o-d-y.
Basketball is not only dead because it is a team sport, so the attention of TV watchers is on 10 players not on 2. And however basketball also has a problem in duration, who is not a fan only looks at the last quarter. No one looks at the first 2.
Today very few young children participate in phy ed and teens, unless they are very athletic, never do any junior team sports either
I don't know in Asia or South America ... in Europe was born dead; and basketball is alive but there is IMHO to do a reflection even in the basket on excessive duration. Basketball fans may be able to see all 4 quarters, but 90% of people see only the 4th or two at the most.With the younger gen, baseball is practically dead. Basketball (at least in US) is very alive and well.
I wish they would try new camera angles. The lower angles are so much better to see the speed of the players and ball trajectory. Feels much more intense instead of the almost birds eye view we get most of the time which is completely detached from the energy on the court.
They've got to try more things to make tennis exciting on tv. Even as someone who's taught tennis for half my life and played college tennis I don't care to watch sometimes because of things that need improvement - camera, commentators, etc. The camera angle at Winston-Salem this week is great.
Yes and no. I like the camera angle directly behind the court that is about eye level. This is a great view.Totally agree. I think it would be great to have the camera virtually on court behind the receiver. Then you'd really understand how hard it is to return a serve. Better perspective of pace and shape of the ball.