TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
*Claps*Andy Murray is not Novak Djokovic.
*Claps*Andy Murray is not Novak Djokovic.
I've seen Millman pull those faces against other players too, it's not like it's just Federer matches that he does it.
It's also not the first time he loses a GS match against Novak from MP up.*Claps*
Come on... Like his shot was suddenly invalid against Djoker. Just because losing with MPs happened doesn't really change my view. Nole came up with a decent pass. It's like the 2012 semis, where Fed hits a mediocre serve and Nole dumps the return in the net. If that was returned a'la US Open 2011, Fed'd be lambasted for hitting a powder puff serve.It's also not the first time he loses a GS match against Novak from MP up.
Me: from a Fed fan to become a Millman hater during this match.Millman talks too much with his box after every point. That has to throw off his concentration. Just play the game.
Millman is an absolute embarrassment with this choke. Nobody likes him. Even the Aussie crowd was cheering for Federer.
I was praying for Millman in the fifth set but now I hate him too.
Millman talks too much with his box after every point.
You're Roger f'in Federer on CC. Your serve has barely been broken, you have been the better player the entire match and you finally get to take advantage of your strong serve at MP up.Come on... Like his shot was suddenly invalid against Djoker. Just because losing with MPs happened doesn't really change my view. Nole came up with a decent pass. It's like the 2012 semis, where Fed hits a mediocre serve and Nole dumps the return in the net. If that was returned a'la US Open 2011, Fed'd be lambasted for hitting a powder puff serve.
Millman is annoying on court. I’m happy that he’s out, and not just because I’m a Fed fan.Millman talks too much with his box after every point. That has to throw off his concentration. Just focus and play the game. Could have easily won this.
Millman is an absolute embarrassment with this choke. Nobody likes him. Even the Aussie crowd was cheering for Federer.
I was praying for Millman in the fifth set but now I hate him too.
Meh, what's the point? We're done here.You're Roger f'in Federer on CC. Your serve has barely been broken, you have been the better player the entire match and you finally get to take advantage of your strong serve at MP up.
Let's stop finding excuses when this literally only happens him. Nadal or Novak would never lose such a match at any age against anyone.
lol someone was like only 10% are rooting for fed and im like really?
Just stop it! Millman almost did.The only player who can stop him is Djokovic. Nobody else can.
i think that's an accurate analysisPhew....
You're Roger f'in Federer on CC. Your serve has barely been broken, you have been the better player the entire match and you finally get to take advantage of your strong serve at MP up.
Let's stop finding excuses when this literally only happens him. Nadal or Novak would never lose such a match at any age against anyone.
The key word is "almost". But he choked 3 times in the fifth set, the last time being after being 8-4 up on the tie break. This is pathetic. It doesn't matter how bad Federer plays, for some reason only Djokovic can beat him.Just stop it! Millman almost did.
About the same approach shot that converted the CP in 2012. Hindsight's a killer, and it's stabbing you right in the gut, to which your armchair proclamations attest. But whatever, stay mad.
I'll agree it was a bit better, but some sub-optimal execution isn't really something I'm going to lambast him for as highly as others here wish to.The 2012 approach was quite a bit better, watch them side by side. Not perfect either, but the mental situation was also very different in 2012 as Federer was strongly the better player in the last two sets, putting Murray under consistent pressure/strain.
I'll agree it was a bit better, but some sub-optimal execution isn't really something I'm going to lambast him for as highly as others here wish to.
What exactly made Tsitsipas a tough draw for Novak at a major. Just because Tsitsipas won a BO3 match against Novak doesn't have any bearing on their match in a B05 format. It was the same thing with RBA last year where he could beat Novak in a BO3 format but Novak defeated him at Wimbledon.
We can also look at Thiem vs Nadal where Thiem has won BO3 on clay but struggle against Nadal at the French Open.
Yes it will torment for the rest of our lives.Once you are 40-15 up on your serve, you f'in win. You don't hit a powder puff FH approach shot begging to be passed.
And it wasn't just that. Every tiebreak was atrocious from him.
2015 was excusable. This one wasn't. And even 2014 wasn't.
Roger Federer played Novak Djokovic close in the last three matches. So I have faith in Roger. I think it's 70-30 in favour of Novak Djokovic if that match happens..
After this marathon, not sure Roger reaches SF
He's the only 15+ slam champ who plays the same way as 7-10 yrs ago. The others play a little more conservative or inconsistency shows up (Fed,Rafa, SW). I think his second serve has improved too.He will fall at the hands of only one man, Djokovic.
lol what? Is this lunatic for real?
Not that any of this is relevant to the thread lol, but I just went back and watched the 2012 shot. It’s got much greater depth and angle, just 3-4 feet from Murray’s forehand corner, while the one in the Djokovic match landed about on the service line and was hardly pulled wide at all. That said, I don’t think Fed’s approach against Novak was terrible – he didn’t leave Djokovic much angle to work with and it’s to Novak’s credit he found about the only angle that was going to get the ball past Roger. Not a great approach, but a very good passing shot, if that makes sense. But in hindsight, Fed definitely could have put more depth, angle, or pace on his forehand and had an even better shot at winning the rally.About the same approach shot that converted the CP in 2012. Hindsight's a killer, and it's stabbing you right in the gut, to which your armchair proclamations attest. But whatever, stay mad.
One can look at this win optimistically, pessimistically, or somewhere in between. I'm very optimistic about Fedr after seeing his 2019, much more so than at the end of 2018.
In regards to this win, what some don't realize is that, just like @StrongRule said, Fedr has won quite a few titles after near-loss scares like this in the past (even slams!), unlike journeymen who tend to lose soon after such close-wins (see Fedr's RG09 against Haas and Delpo, WB12 against Benneteau, Shanghai14 against L.Mayer, among others). I'm not saying Fedr will be 50/50 against Djokr if they meet, but he will have his chances if they meet. Also, many seem to forget Djokr's AO16 win against Simon after committing 100UEs. Djokr with 100UEs? Fedr's 82UEs in this match seems tame compared to the 100UEs committed by a metronome like Djokr. He ended up winning AO16.
There are definitely positives to take from a tough, AND lucky, near-loss like this. In fact, Fedr just said in his 2R press that learning from losses is a huge factor in being successful, in any field. This wasn't a loss, but it was close enough. And if Fedr follows his own advice, he'll do better going forward, and I look forward to it.
I don't expect any wins at AO20 from him after this match, to be realistic. But Fedr is playing with house money now. I'm not sure you know, but a free-flowing Fedr is the most dangerous type of Fedr.
I dont see Nadal or Djokovic arriving at a Wimbledon's final at almost 37 years old. Then, maybe, we can talk about this. I think you over react too much on this
One can look at this win optimistically, pessimistically, or somewhere in between. I'm very optimistic about Fedr after seeing his 2019, much more so than at the end of 2018.
In regards to this win, what some don't realize is that, just like @StrongRule said, Fedr has won quite a few titles after near-loss scares like this in the past (even slams!), unlike journeymen who tend to lose soon after such close-wins (see Fedr's RG09 against Haas and Delpo, WB12 against Benneteau, Shanghai14 against L.Mayer, among others). I'm not saying Fedr will be 50/50 against Djokr if they meet, but he will have his chances if they meet. Also, many seem to forget Djokr's AO16 win against Simon after committing 100UEs. Djokr with 100UEs? Fedr's 82UEs in this match seems tame compared to the 100UEs committed by a metronome like Djokr. He ended up winning AO16.
There are definitely positives to take from a tough, AND lucky, near-loss like this. In fact, Fedr just said in his 2R press that learning from losses is a huge factor in being successful, in any field. This wasn't a loss, but it was close enough. And if Fedr follows his own advice, he'll do better going forward, and I look forward to it.
I don't expect any wins at AO20 from him after this match, to be realistic. But Fedr is playing with house money now. I'm not sure you know, but a free-flowing Fedr is the most dangerous type of Fedr.
The last part makes it sounds like Fed being more experienced has something to do with him winning today. Not at all. We’ve seen him lose close encounters more than enough to know that experience doesn’t mean everything. I’m happy that he won but he was extremely lucky to win and it mostly happened by simply hanging on and for some reason an otherwise solid Millman started making uncharacteristic errors. It also should be said that Fed played horrendously today.The way I saw it was Fed had an off day and ran into an extremely hot player. While not at his best, he hung on and fortune favored the more experienced.
.....Now imagine somebody targeting 2006 Fed's forhand wing that often. It'd be a very high carb diet at the end...
Everyone has their off days.He's the only 15+ slam champ who plays the same way as 7-10 yrs ago. The others play a little more conservative or inconsistency shows up (Fed,Rafa, SW). I think his second serve has improved too.
That is one the reasons I love TTWTTW tennis iq is below zero. The crap that's being talked here is ridiculous.
More than Berrettini?So I dislike him even more.
yes but you have more off days when you get older. Then it can no longer be considered off. The reality is your level (peak) has simply dropped.Everyone has their off days.
I like berrettiniMore than Berrettini?