AO’20 3R Men’s Singles: (3) R Federer (SUI) vs J Millman

[snr]

Court conditions looked slow today, there was no weight on Federer’s routine ground strokes, he was forced to swing harder and to flatten out his shots. This reduced his margin for error resulting in all the unforced errors. He played like a grinder, not his usual attacking free flow game. Credit to Millman for playing tough, he had a clear game plan to attack the fed forehand side, his counterpunching style is suited to playing attacking opponents, he doesn’t generate his own pace, conditions were in his favor and he had the support of the crowd. In the end the better player won. Exciting tennis !

This is true, but Millman was hitting so many passing winners per se. It was strange and frustrating to say the least.

 

[junior74]

I watched the match on replay and Hewitt is just as annoying as a coach as he was as a player. Millman needs to stop looking at his box after every single point, he's worse than even Murray with that. Hewitt was blatantly coaching Millman throughout the match, especially the first two sets. He was using hand signals, pointing to his ears and mouth, it was overt coaching, he wasn't even bothering to hide it. Millman should have been warned and then point penalties should have ensued. People think Toni was coaching from the box need to watch Hewitt- egregious scenes.

For a moment, I thought I was watching Laver Cup

 

[a10best]

Everyone has their off days.

yeah but somehow Djokovic comes through on his off days. Now, you reminded me of 40-15. change topic please

 

[Pheasant]

One can look at this win optimistically, pessimistically, or somewhere in between. I'm very optimistic about Fedr after seeing his 2019, much more so than at the end of 2018.

In regards to this win, what some don't realize is that, just like @StrongRule said, Fedr has won quite a few titles after near-loss scares like this in the past (even slams!), unlike journeymen who tend to lose soon after such close-wins (see Fedr's RG09 against Haas and Delpo, WB12 against Benneteau, Shanghai14 against L.Mayer, among others). I'm not saying Fedr will be 50/50 against Djokr if they meet, but he will have his chances if they meet. Also, many seem to forget Djokr's AO16 win against Simon after committing 100UEs. Djokr with 100UEs? Fedr's 82UEs in this match seems tame compared to the 100UEs committed by a metronome like Djokr. He ended up winning AO16.

There are definitely positives to take from a tough, AND lucky, near-loss like this. In fact, Fedr just said in his 2R press that learning from losses is a huge factor in being successful, in any field. This wasn't a loss, but it was close enough. And if Fedr follows his own advice, he'll do better going forward, and I look forward to it.

I don't expect any wins at AO20 from him after this match, to be realistic. But Fedr is playing with house money now. I'm not sure you know, but a free-flowing Fedr is the most dangerous type of Fedr.

I truly appreciate your optimistic view of Fed. They are always optimistic, yet realistic. It's a breath fresh of air.

 

[Nadal15thslam]

Not even close to a consolation prize.

Your man still has the most slams and is in the course to win another. That is a pretty good consolation prize. You're not guaranteed anything in life. Yes, Rafa and Nole are close but anything can happen.

 

[beltsman]

Millman talks too much with his box after every point. That has to throw off his concentration. Just focus and play the game. Could have easily won this.
Millman is an absolute embarrassment with this choke. Nobody likes him. Even the Aussie crowd was cheering for Federer.
I was praying for Millman in the fifth set but now I hate him too.

Please join us in the Millman Fans thread - https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/john-millman-career-thread.661808/

 

[Harry_Wild]

 

[I Am Finnish]

I like berrettini

I knew it

 

[Jokervich]

Roger Federer d. John Millman 4-6, 7-6(2), 6-4, 4-6, 7-6(8)!

That's cos Millman basically imploded. He was up a break and then 8-4 in the tie break. How the f he lost it from there I don't know.

I bet you wouldn't have quoted me if I was right, would you? I await the day when you quote me and say "wow you are right, congratulations". Somehow I don't think that will ever happen. Just bothered about proving someone wrong.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

That's cos Millman basically imploded. He was up a break and then 8-4 in the tie break. How the f he lost it from there I don't know.

I bet you wouldn't have quoted me if I was right, would you? I await the day when you quote me and say "wow you are right, congratulations". Somehow I don't think that will ever happen. Just bothered about proving someone wrong.

Awww Diddums.

 

[Jokervich]

Awww Diddums.

I'm not actually that bothered, I just find it pretty hilarious how the whole forum revolves around proving people wrong and being right at the expense of others. Makes it interesting I guess, but also a bit tragic.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Federer isn't winning if it goes to 5 sets. He crumbles under the pressure when it goes to 5. He has to win in 3 or 4.

Tell us more about Fed not winning a 5 set match.

 

[SonicNirvana]

Federer's pressing play eventually got to millman in that tiebreak, couldn't hit those unthinkable shots like points before in the tiebreak. The first great 10 point tiebreak.

 

[jklos]

yes but you have more off days when you get older. Then it can no longer be considered off. The reality is your level (peak) has simply dropped.

No doubt about that. Although Fed did get the better of Novak in their last match. Convincingly 6-4 6-3.

 

[jklos]

yeah but somehow Djokovic comes through on his off days. Now, you reminded me of 40-15. change topic please

Not always.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Millman really ropes his ground strokes. Strong off both sides and doesn't seem to miss while just clobbering the ball. Reminds me of the old Fed/Simon match up although Millman hits harder and probably isn't near as strong defensively.

 

[Nostradamus]

WOW,, how did Millman lose this match tiebreaker from 8-4 up...……...WPOWW.....LOL,,,,,,,...………………….

 

[a10best]

No doubt about that. Although Fed did get the better of Novak in their last match. Convincingly 6-4 6-3.

it would be nice to see him do it convincingly against him in a slam for a change.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Mirka looks like she lost a ton of weight.

 

[flyingboris]

i hate this sport, why i got into it in the first place is beyond me

LOL! I couldn't handle the stress so I'm only now catching up with this thread

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

I'm not actually that bothered, I just find it pretty hilarious how the whole forum revolves around proving people wrong and being right at the expense of others. Makes it interesting I guess, but also a bit tragic.

Basically the function of forums

 

[BeatlesFan]

Mirka looks like she lost a ton of weight.

Mirka looked damn good prior to having 4 kids, and still looks good considering she'll be 42 years old in April.

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Or 38 year old gassed legend fights back heroically against homecrowd favorite and one of the fittest men on tour.

. .who was unseeded....

. .what's more, a battle-hardened Fedwarrior's not folding because of any "home crowd" factor...

. .watch: Fed's probably going to dick-dance on his next opponent.
..

 

[DSH]

Fucsovics has zero chance.

You only have to wait...

 

[DSH]

This win was meant to be because Federer being the 2020 Australian Open champion is meant to be.

Aren't you the guy who constantly complains every time Nadal and Djokovic win and you say they're too old to be GS tournament champions?
I see that your criteria do not apply to your beloved Federer, who, as you know, is over 38 years old ...

 

[Znak]

Not sure if someone posted this already:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1220685479839879169

 

[duaneeo]

Aren't you the guy who constantly complains every time Nadal and Djokovic win and you say they're too old to be GS tournament champions?
I see that your criteria do not apply to your beloved Federer, who, as you know, is over 38 years old ...

The NextGens should be dominating at the slams (as NextGens of ALL previous eras eventually did), but until that starts happening, of course I want Federer and not Nadal or Djokovic to win. Duh.

 

[DSH]

The NextGens should be dominating at the slams (as NextGens of ALL previous eras eventually did), but until that starts happening, of course I want Federer and not Nadal or Djokovic to win. Duh.

Such a classy fan you are!

 

[rh310]

Once you are 40-15 up on your serve, you f'in win. You don't hit a powder puff FH approach shot begging to be passed.

And it wasn't just that. Every tiebreak was atrocious from him.

Here's a sound analysis of how Djokovic beat Federer in the tiebreaks of that Wimbledon match. Djokovic completely shifted how those points were played, to his favor.

How Novak Djokovic Dominated The Tie-breaks Against Roger Federer In Wimbledon final | ATP Tour | Tennis

How Novak Djokovic Dominated The Tie-breaks Against Roger Federer In Wimbledon final

www.atptour.com

 

[soundofatrain]

The constant jawboning between Millman and his box was aggravating. He should have saved up his energy instead of carrrying out a full blown conversation between every point. Hewitt appears to be equally unlikeable as a coach as he was a player, trying to assert himself on the match from the sidelines.

 

[Mark-Touch]

Let's face it, Millman has no real weapons. The incredible heat and humidity at the US Open is what beat Federer that day. Barring similar conditions for this match or Federer throwing in a random stinker, I fully expect a rout at Milkman's expense.

Not quite how it panned out...

 

[Mark-Touch]

OK who called called this Fed in 5?
Stand up and be counted...

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Reading this thread was hilarious. Fed has some of the most defeatist fans on earth.

@StANDAA doing the lords work checking people on it.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Seriously, this place is always unbearable one way or another.

Best poast of the thread, possibly the year.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Best poast of the thread, possibly the year.

How about this one dad

TTW tennis iq is below zero. The crap that's being talked here is ridiculous.

 

[chjtennis]

why do you keep going on about injury?

From the way he hits the ball. In most rallies, he had chances to smack the ball and get the upper hand in the rally, but he just pushed it back instead. He is hiding some injury, I'm sure, most likely a hand injury.

 

[Shangri La]

Why Fed always struggled with Millman?

 

[James P]

OK who called called this Fed in 5?
Stand up and be counted...

Millman in 5. So freaking close.

 

[D.Nalby12]

7

 

[D.Nalby12]

Slow court is biggest concern for Federer, not his level or exhaustion. Millman has very strong consistent ground game, great defense, good retuen - overall a mix that should trouble Federer. So I am not reading too much from this match. I believe he is playing well - should make semis without dropping set now. Not much hopes against Novak though. If someone knocks out Novak for him, he may win. Otherwise no chance on show court like this.

 

[Newballsplease872]

Aren't you the guy who constantly complains every time Nadal and Djokovic win and you say they're too old to be GS tournament champions?
I see that your criteria do not apply to your beloved Federer, who, as you know, is over 38 years old ...

GTFO Off this thread dull fanboy

 

[Otacon]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1220970293134614528

 

[Hitman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1220970293134614528

Looks like he was enthralled, well it is Federer

 

[tenisdecente]

I can. Especially Djokovic!

I definitely dont see Djokovic arriving at a Wimbledon's final at 37 years old. Time catches up with everybody and he wont be an exception. But this futurology stuff is for a different member in this forum