dak95_00
Hall of Fame
How are they attached? Epoxy or some sort of glue? Wouldn't heat loosen them?
I have no idea. I'm just wondering with my fingers. I also realize the heat could compromise the carbon.
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How are they attached? Epoxy or some sort of glue? Wouldn't heat loosen them?
I have no idea. I'm just wondering with my fingers. I also realize the heat could compromise the carbon.
tennisBIEST
Professional
The PT2.0 isn’t for everyone. Weaker people, people who think it’s all about hitting Nadal level of spin, and those who need the side of a cow to feel comfortable finding the sweet spot aren’t the target market.Glad that there's some critical reviews on this and not all rainbows and unicorns.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
It would damage the handle and the consistency of the racket in that area. I am not sure if it is doable. If you take off the buttcap, you may be able to see the metal between two handle chambers...
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
How can one get some Head Calfskin?
Addxyz
Hall of Fame
What?! A racquet with the word Pro in the name is guaranteed to raise NTRP by +0.5.
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topspn
Legend
Target market is nostalgia but it’s a 95 not a wooden racquet
ChrisG
Professional
In the dark webz
also be prepared to part with either an arm or a leg though... lol
ChrisG
Professional
I know it’s a poor dead beaten horse with more lives than Boris Becker, but don’t you think it’s funny that tennis business is run in a completely opposite way as other kind of business ?
Usually brands are desperate to sell their high ends products, the most expensive ones, where they can show the excellency of their craft, what make their brand most valuable than their competitor. It’s about putting in the market the best product while in tennis it’s more about the less crap product (and keeping a secret good production for the pros): the exemple of leather grip is really disturbing (I’ve worked the past ten years for a luxury shoe brand) as it’s a very simple product. Why not make available your best product ? Instead you have to trust a guy named Angelo in Germany.
And don’t get me started in the prostock racquet production made in China now so there’s no valid excuse to not mass produce it
Usually brands are desperate to sell their high ends products, the most expensive ones, where they can show the excellency of their craft, what make their brand most valuable than their competitor. It’s about putting in the market the best product while in tennis it’s more about the less crap product (and keeping a secret good production for the pros): the exemple of leather grip is really disturbing (I’ve worked the past ten years for a luxury shoe brand) as it’s a very simple product. Why not make available your best product ? Instead you have to trust a guy named Angelo in Germany.
And don’t get me started in the prostock racquet production made in China now so there’s no valid excuse to not mass produce it
Just got my Head Pro 2.o sticks and went out to hit. Frankly very disappointed. As a point of compare, I've played with the PT 113B, Yonex vCore Pro HD, and weighted up Babolat Pure Aero.
I was really hoping this was close to the 113B as that was the most magical stick I've ever played with. WRONG. This racquet felt like a Pure Aero w/a tiny head. Very firm, boardy even, with lots of power and a high ping coming off the racquet on hitting. I'm quite disappointed as was looking for more of a magical high feel/control stick similar to the 113B. The Vcore Pro HD is way more forgiving on off hits and had 1000x more plush feel than this one.... But with the HD you need to be in top form, and with this one even more so b/c with any slight off hit you are toast. And also as a prior poster mentioned, the tip of the racquet was dead. Yep he's right.
As an ex-college player, I dont need to have a racquet generate power for me. Its why I've moved away from the Pure Aero, which has all power/spin and zero control/feel. I dont get why all these racquet cos are trying to be a Babolat. Noone can out Babolat on the power/spin front. I'm looking at you Head/Yonex... Thank god at least these Babolat type-racquets are losing popularity. Yet, Head couldnt help itself from over tinkering and raising the RA on this to the mid60s...
I'm hoping this poor review is b/c of the Lynx strings which felt like its too tight for this racquet. I think its strung at 50lb on a 95" 18x20 frame? Way too tight. I'll restring with poly at mid40s, maybe low 40s??
Hope the racquet transforms....
I was really hoping this was close to the 113B as that was the most magical stick I've ever played with. WRONG. This racquet felt like a Pure Aero w/a tiny head. Very firm, boardy even, with lots of power and a high ping coming off the racquet on hitting. I'm quite disappointed as was looking for more of a magical high feel/control stick similar to the 113B. The Vcore Pro HD is way more forgiving on off hits and had 1000x more plush feel than this one.... But with the HD you need to be in top form, and with this one even more so b/c with any slight off hit you are toast. And also as a prior poster mentioned, the tip of the racquet was dead. Yep he's right.
As an ex-college player, I dont need to have a racquet generate power for me. Its why I've moved away from the Pure Aero, which has all power/spin and zero control/feel. I dont get why all these racquet cos are trying to be a Babolat. Noone can out Babolat on the power/spin front. I'm looking at you Head/Yonex... Thank god at least these Babolat type-racquets are losing popularity. Yet, Head couldnt help itself from over tinkering and raising the RA on this to the mid60s...
I'm hoping this poor review is b/c of the Lynx strings which felt like its too tight for this racquet. I think its strung at 50lb on a 95" 18x20 frame? Way too tight. I'll restring with poly at mid40s, maybe low 40s??
Hope the racquet transforms....
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My impression of the pt2.0 after my first hit was also one of disappointment but for different reasons. I have mine strung with isospeed control (a low powered multi) at 50 lbs and it felt like i was swinging a brick. I noticed a lack of power and spin.
My second hit with the racquet was a very different experience. Obviously i had adjusted more to the low launch angle and other characteristics of the frame but i think the biggest difference was simply the level of the opponent. My first hit was against a consistent but not strong player and to keep rallies going i slow my swings down and just hit up the middle of the court. My second hit was against a former challenger player and i was able to hit aggresively and with placement.
I'm convinced that the frame performs best when you swing fast. I found it easy to redirect pace, had good control and power and was confident that attacking shots would go where they were aimed. Does feel pretty stiff to me.
Racquet likes and dislikes are of course a very personal thing and can vary greatly with string setups etc. I feel that this frame, more than most, really does require racquet head speed to produce the best results. Not for everyone but if you have good technique and like to be hit through the ball you'll be rewarded.
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
1) I did not find it boardy at all, however, mine came unstrung and I put my favorite setup on it. And yes, 54/48 setup.
2) why would you expect it to be anything like the PT113B??? That was not the target layup. Also, the 113 layup is totally not retail friendly because of the SW. it is the pro stock designed specifically to serve its purpose.
3) as for the layup comment, it a a wonderful layup for the majority of users. Well balanced, not harsh at all
tennisBIEST
Professional
I felt like my first hit the strings were too tight. Mine were strung up at 48/46 with Tour Bite Soft. Second day strings loosened and I found that plush, control and power that I was looking for. Mine came in over spec so it’s a plow through wedge buster! This PT2.0 is a solid frame. Great stability, good to great power, excellent comfort, zero bad vibrations and pinpoint control. I can drop some serious heat on first serves and returning with the PT2.0 is rock steady! It’s moving it’s way to the top of the order as we speak.
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Ny first hit in almost 2 months, i hit for about an hour, super rusty
Mine came in at 346g with Solinco overgrip and Sampras dampner, thin gauge string might of removed 2-3g from hoop, but my racquet also came in at 323g unstrung
All in all, was fun to have my first session with, can confirm that it's a pretty soft playing frame if you hit the sweet spot - I have found that all the latest 360+ racquets are string sensitive and tension sensitive, i wonder if this may also have that same issue? but pretty nice so far
Mine came in at 346g with Solinco overgrip and Sampras dampner, thin gauge string might of removed 2-3g from hoop, but my racquet also came in at 323g unstrung
All in all, was fun to have my first session with, can confirm that it's a pretty soft playing frame if you hit the sweet spot - I have found that all the latest 360+ racquets are string sensitive and tension sensitive, i wonder if this may also have that same issue? but pretty nice so far
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PistolPete23
Hall of Fame
PT designations refer strictly to layup and TK to the mold? So a PT57a racquet could technically use a mold different than the PT280/630? I thought I understood but now I'm even more confused LOL. Not sure who's correct unless sources are quoted.
LeatherBlade
New User
Quick question while I am awaiting two PT2.0 rackets from TWE - I plan to have the rackets strung in a full bed of multi ultimately - should the stringing pattern stick to a two-piece or is one piece stringing a reasonable option for these frames?
djNEiGht
Legend
off the top of my head you could string but would need to be ATW. What is your concern about 1 vs 2 piece?
LeatherBlade
New User
I am not a stringer - just a user - but I am used to one piece stringing in my Wilson six ones (and other Wilson frames) - and just want to be sure that I am not planning to damage or lose performance of the frame with a one piece approach on these rackets.......hope that makes some sense.......
on the photo I can see 4 knots -> comes from the factory with 2 pieces
royroy85
Rookie
Thanks for the insight. What are your opinions between the last two racquets you have mentioned, the 6.1 95 18 X 20 (especially the factor if you tried it) vs PT2.0?
nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
I haven't switched out pallets yet but I will say that I cut out the strings as fast as possible as I could tell I would have hated them. At least for me, I think this racquet is begging for gut hybrid or multi and at thinner gauge and/or lower tension.
McGradey
Hall of Fame
I haven’t tried the K factor 6.1, but have used nCode, BLX (black/red) and 2017 versions. The PT2.0 performs very similarly, but does it with a different feeling. More tangibly, I would say the PT2.0 has more comfort and less power.
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Grieeegoorr
Semi-Pro
@vsbabolat has always said to string 2 piece, so I would follow that sage advice.
ChrisG
Professional
He said a few days ago that all Head frames should be stringed 2 pieces
topspn
Legend
I didn’t quite go to gut or multi but ordered a couple of packs of firewire 1.20 that should be arriving today. It’s poly but soft, powerful, grabby with nasty spin and in a thinner gauge. So different then my normal confidential 1.30 but I am inline with your thinking.
nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
Strung specs?! If unstrung then it doesn't sound too far off right?
nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
GUGA!!
djNEiGht
Legend
Firewire was really nice in my iPrestige and other 18x20. pair with a slick round poly in the cross. swing away!
Kal-El 34
Hall of Fame
I got lucky and have a guy that gets them but doesn't like them so he sends them to me periodically. I've given a few out on the board periodically for people to try so stay tuned when my next batch comes in maybe u will get one
bkfinch
Semi-Pro
Mine stock was 339g 33cm = 4pts HL (!!!!), 336sw. Some tailweighting brings it to 'spec' but still, a very high balance.
Have a game on a real court tomorrow, excited to hit it for reals.
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Grinch
Rookie
Strung with the stock Lynx17, mine was 341g, 33cm balance (same 4HL as @bkfinch), 338SW. I added Head tour leather (not finest), Tourna OG, and Tourna O-vib (only 2g) damper to get 353g, 32.1 (7HL), still keeping it at 338ish SW. I'll give that weight/balance a try with the stock full poly for now, but probably move to gut/roundpoly hybrid or maybe even a full multi for humid summer (Reflex or Velocity?).
Tommy Haas
Hall of Fame
Why is this racquet being described as flexible? 65RA strung doesn't sound flexible unless most all the flex is at the hoop. I believe the Babolat RDC measures flex more so at the throat, but the original version was known for it's flex at the throat. I guess that's why it's the 2.0.
FranzS
Semi-Pro
Didn't you know? That cornerstone which RA was, has been dismantled in the last couple of weeks.
Jokes apart, take a look at previous posts, there's plenty of comments about that.
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
Hit with the 2.0 in stock form. The plow on this thing is insane lol. So is the (lack of) maneuverability. The extra pocketing probably enhanced the plow sensation. I usually play with 16x19 with 1.20 poly, and was surprised to find even with the dense string patten and thicker poly, the power is ample and spin is not lacking. Feel is sensational. Sweetspot is not small. Other than the maneuverability, it's more forgiving than I had thought. It feels a bit muted, which I think may have to do with the factory string and synthetic grip (I usually leather grip every racquet).
McGradey
Hall of Fame
Leather gripped mine, with OG and dampener it’s 354g and 31.5cm balance
played doubles last night, first serves started to feel great, kick serve still an issue. Low launch angle on ground strokes caught me out a bit too, so plenty to work on over the next couple of weeks while I continue the affair with this frame. The accuracy and feel really is intoxicating. It’s as good as it gets. I’m just not sure my results will reflect the same positivity.
played doubles last night, first serves started to feel great, kick serve still an issue. Low launch angle on ground strokes caught me out a bit too, so plenty to work on over the next couple of weeks while I continue the affair with this frame. The accuracy and feel really is intoxicating. It’s as good as it gets. I’m just not sure my results will reflect the same positivity.
wow - saw the Tennis Warehouse box sitting on the hallway this morning - must have been an early morning delivery (it was due to be delivered yesterday afternoon)
Wfh and have back to back conferences calls pretty much all day, so I will get my grabby hands on it later this afternoon..
it will be shadow swinging as i am not ready to get back to the public courts yet....
Wfh and have back to back conferences calls pretty much all day, so I will get my grabby hands on it later this afternoon..
it will be shadow swinging as i am not ready to get back to the public courts yet....
FranzS
Semi-Pro
Strung????
My measurements with stock Head Lynx 17g string but also with overgrip (unfortunately, I didn't do any measurements before wrapping the overgrip):
Static weight 343 g
BP 32.1 cm ('table method' and averaging between head and then handle hanging off the table - I constantly get a 4 mm deviation between those two measurements)
Swing weight 327 kg*cm^2 ('pendulum method').
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
My Pro Tour 2.0 is 63RA.
FranzS
Semi-Pro
Just out of curiosity, does RDC measure the deflection for a given applied force or the force needed to apply a certain deflection?
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
I got lucky and have a guy that gets them but doesn't like them so he sends them to me periodically. I've given a few out on the board periodically for people to try so stay tuned when my next batch comes in maybe u will get one
Would greatly appreciate it. All my frames have Fairways on them at this point, but would love to try the calfskins out in my lifetime.
i'd like to know also please. my main racquets before the lockdown were the 2013 Blade 18x20 and the 2013/4 Pure Strike 98 16x19 (both modded to similar spec)
anyway.....
just finished work for the day and opened the TWE box. what a beauty. it felt hefty after removing the cardboard and the plastic wrap, but a nice feel. i like.
so a quick measure, my stock spec seems to be 340g/32.6cm/326SW. seems abit "off" from the TW spec, but who knows.
i have a couple of options for the blue string to match... both syn gut, as i only do syn gut these days lol
i will string it up in the next days, add an OG and try to up the SW to upper 335SW, but will try not to add too much weight overall....
huge thank yous to the knowledge people and those early adaptors/enablers (you know who you are!!!!).
glad to be back with a Head again.
ragingbull1980
Semi-Pro
And mine is 62RA. So its possible.
thisiscrazy
Rookie
You all can try Tennis Warehouse Europe, including the 4 1/4 grip. I just received mine from them. And if you can find a promo code that works, the entire cost can be less than if you ordered from TW-stateside (I'm in the States), even with the international shipping costs.
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