Djokovic two matches away from the double Golden Masters
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TheAssassin
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In b4 someone says 1.5 Golden Masters.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
1.5 Golden Masters.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic just needs to show up in order to win tournaments with that field, really.
beard
Legend
2.5... It is extraordinary dangerous environment he will win second one....
beard
Legend
Boring... It's done deal...
Let's see, he will need one Monte Carlo and another one Cincinnati for Triple Holden Masters...
Born_to_slice
Legend
If he cruises to title, fine. I wouldn't want him to waste too much energy before US Open begins.
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
I never got why people call it the “Golden Masters”. Don’t you kinda need a Gold medal to make it a Golden Masters 
It should just be called the "Career Masters".
It should just be called the "Career Masters".
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RS
Bionic Poster
Will correct thanks.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
First of each Masters:
Indian Wells 2008
Miami 2007 (first Masters overall)
Monte-Carlo 2013
Rome 2008
Madrid 2011
Canada 2007
Cincinnati 2018
Shanghai 2012
Paris 2009
Second of each Masters:
Indian Wells 2011
Miami 2011
Monte-Carlo 2015
Rome 2011
Madrid 2016
Canada 2011
--
Shanghai 2013
Paris 2013
GOAT Masters player, probs.
Indian Wells 2008
Miami 2007 (first Masters overall)
Monte-Carlo 2013
Rome 2008
Madrid 2011
Canada 2007
Cincinnati 2018
Shanghai 2012
Paris 2009
Second of each Masters:
Indian Wells 2011
Miami 2011
Monte-Carlo 2015
Rome 2011
Madrid 2016
Canada 2011
--
Shanghai 2013
Paris 2013
GOAT Masters player, probs.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
It’s very shinyI never got why people call it the “Golden Masters”. Don’t you kinda need a Gold medal to make it a Golden Masters
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Deleted member 774223
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Just when the constant talk of Nadal's chasing of double Career Slam in Australia calmed down, we get stuff like this. I doubt Djokovic even cares...
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
I mean so is bronze
beard
Legend
I doubt Djokovic don't cares...
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Oh, he does. The only player who doesn't care too much about records is Nadal. (which is why he isn't playing right now)
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Not so quick. Everyone else says it is the number that counts. Why would that change for masters?
125downthemiddle
Banned
Yeah it's the number unless it's tied I guess tiebreaker like this could come into play? Much like the slam count and h2h etc. Unlikely it ends up tied tho
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Almost everyone I hear says "Career Slam first, then number of slams", why not do the same for Masters?
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Overall tallies are really close and the Career Masters pushes him over.
Little different from the Slam count. I don’t see much for Nadal to compensate for his one less Slam, except for the Masters (but Fed has 6-0 ATP Finals and more weeks at number 1).
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think that is nearly as important with masters. They all have won on all surfaces.
Third Serve
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Six Masters in one year is stunning too (though I secretly believe that Fed would have done the same without Nadal in the clay Masters)
Hitman
Bionic Poster
One more for the Yuri Boyka of tennis.
This was just f'n insane.
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Completing the circle was special. But I doubt he's thinking much about double, triple trivia if at all. Masters, Slams, anything...
Only because Roland Garros is close. Normal order of Slams and he'd be playing all of them.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah the masters debate can get pretty murky. Nice accomplishment for sure. But I think I would rather have the most masters and winning on all surfaces.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
I agree, but that's one of the ways that we don't hold Masters to the same standard as slams. I think number comes before all else, but there's more leeway here than there is for Slams.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
In regards to the OP, last year he was two matches away also, then lost in the semis...so we've been here before. If he gets it, great, but I'm not too bothered personally myself, I just don't want him to overextend himself if he gets into that sort of situation...it is a masters, yes, a chance for a double career masters, but it still pales in comparison to slam number 18.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer never even won 5 masters in a year though. But of course if he had Djokovic's 2015-2016 clay competition during his prime he would have won a lot more on clay.
Nadal missed a chance to win 6 masters in 2013 by withdrawing from Miami.
125downthemiddle
Banned
Maybe yeah also it's such a larger number overall that one less is a smaller percentage difference.
To be fair though I would still personally consider count the most important.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah I can see that, especially if it gets reall close. That and it is very uneven surface wise compared to the slams. No grass masters is a shame.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Djokovic also missed the chance to win 6 masters for a second time, technically would have been his first, by withdrawining from MC 2011.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
It depends who you are a fan of what matter the most.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, I'd say if they're within 5-10% of each other, you can bring into account related achievements.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic had some kind of injury if I remember correctly. Nadal didn't really have a reason not to play Miami in 2013, he was just afraid he might overplay. (his physical form was still unclear)
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
*Checks notes*
Only thing that matters is the slam number.
For now.
*New version of Textbook being produced now*
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Then the question comes, if he played Miami and got injured, then what? We cannot assume everything stays the same if he had played Miami...
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Third Serve
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I meant to say 2006 Fed. Won four Masters on hard courts and delivered great performances in his losing MC and Rome finals to Nadal of all people. I feel fairly confident that he’d take MC 2015 (finalist Berdych) and Rome 2015 (finalist post-peak Clayerer). As for the other 2015 Masters, the competition was stronger than 2006, but not so much stronger that it would deny peak Fed many Masters.
But I don’t want to discuss the subject any longer. This thread’s about Djokovic (though I confess it’s my fault for having brought it up in the first place).
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Impossible to discuss these topics with fanboys lol No one changes their mind, their fandom is locked.*Checks notes*
Only thing that matters is the slam number.
For now.
*New version of Textbook being produced now*
PeoplesChamp
Legend
PeoplesChamp
Legend
Tsitsipas got lucky because of Opelka knee or all 4 would be out.
Smh
Smh
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
I doubt it would make a big difference, though I understand why he was afraid of overplaying. The really stupid mistake was withdrawing from Barcelona 2010 which for sure wouldn't make him tired.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Well Bonesaw is ready.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Who knows, it's all speculation...remember, the guy has lost five finals in Miami, so I wouldn't be surprised if number 6 was waiting for him either.
Not really sure why Barcelona 2010 was a mistake...the only time he won all three masters on clay was when he skipped Barcelona.
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