I don't believe I ever said the race was not important, I think it is good motivation for the players to see who really was the best player over a calender year.....you must be a NADAL fan....Please note I support tennis
The Race wasn´t important 1 month ago, why should it be now?
As the end of the year draws closer, the Race becomes more & more important.
Yes, I am a Nadal fan and I support tennis too, believe it or not, it´s possible.
And talking about the importance of the Race I wasn´t referring to you in particular but the general consensus on this board.
fed has a lot more to defend the rest of the year than nadal
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Fed is on the way to claim his 50th ATP title. Cincy should be him if he could produce some prolific and aggresive styles of tennis.
What is 'prolific' tennis??
Federer will have to play a lot better in the next rounds if he wants to win.
If Federer wins Cincinnati there is zero chance, barring an injury for Federer, that Nadal ends the year #1. He certainly wont outperform him on the surfaces we are now on.
I was looking at who is left in the draw at cinncinati and in the head to heads the only player who has defeated Federer before is Hewitt and that was in 2003, currently Federer has won his last ten matches against him the actual head to head's are 1-0, 4-0, 6-0, 7-0, 7-0, 9-0, 12-7. So it's extremely unlikely that he won't win the event, considering he owns basically every other player in the draw.
I think if Federer wins the tournament he'll go up to 7605 RP, Nadal will be on 5515, that's a difference of 2090 points, which means assuming that Federer defends all of his points from the rest of the year, he'll finish on 6855 (I think), that will be impossible for Nadal to make up with the rest of the tournies left...
That's pretty bold. Nadal has won Madrid Masters before, he can win it again.
If Djokovic and Fed are in the same half of the US Open draw, that thing is wide open.
By the time Masters Cup begins, I think there will be scenarios for both Nadal and Fed to finish #1. Similar to 2000, when there were scenarios for both Guga and Safin. Should be the most entertaining Masters Cup in years.
I need to read up on how they select the RR groups in Masters Cup. Is there a chance that Fed and Djokovic will be in the same group??
So no, Nadal definitely will not win Madrid...
There is almost no way Federer loses the U.S Open...
I can already tell you are one of those who delude yourselves into thinking Djokovic is now the new Federer nemisis...
I still say the first two statements above are quite bold.
The third statement is simply not true. I do not think Djokovic is Fed's nemisis. But he is clearly now the third best player in the world. He has proven that he can beat Fed and Nadal. He has a greater chance of beating Fed or Nadal than anyone else. So it's at least interesting to see what half of the draw he is in (or RR group) going forward.
So whether Djokovic is in Nadal's half or not (except at the French) is much more significance then whether he is on Fed's half or not.
The race does matter but try to look at it after the USO. Of course Nadal is going to be ahead now, the clay court season just ended.
Won't you guys ever get it! Year end #1 is decided by the Entry Rankings. How do you think Sampras got 6 year end #1's before the ATP Race started. The only thing the race is for is qualifying for the masters cup.
After 3 majors and 7 Masters Series Nadal will be no. 1 on the Race, it´s not all about the clay.
I guess that's only comfort you can get. Nadal is No. 1 on the race points nobody cares. If he can get to No. 1 in entry points, at least history will remember as former No. 1.
Yes, I always said that the Entry system is the only important ranking. I meant that it´s not just the clay season what makes him being no. 1 in the Race right now, on August. Anyway I think it´s more important to win majors than being no. 1 at some point of your career. Rios,Moya,Ferrero and other players were no. 1 but I don´t think anyone would consider them greater than Nadal.
Amen. Fed loves this time of the year - really enjoys surfaces and the cities. Easy to see him getting on a winning streak to close out the calendar year.If Federer wins Cincinnati there is zero chance, barring an injury for Federer, that Nadal ends the year #1. He certainly wont outperform him on the surfaces we are now on.
Oh, brother! Djokovic wins once (two tiebreakers) at a 2 out of 3 event and now Fed is only even money (I assume by 'wide open' that's what you mean). Maybe Fed will invite Djokovic to Dubai and he can see his 11 SLAM TROPHIES!If Djokovic and Fed are in the same half of the US Open draw, that thing is wide open.
I've gone to Shanghai each of the last 2 yrs - trust me, it's very entertaining. They all want to win - it's big money and a great way to end the yr and prep for Australia. I expect more of the same this year, regardless of the makeup of the 8 and how the 2 groups are formed.Should be the most entertaining Masters Cup in years.
You're wasting your time explaining it - there are those 'special' people on this board who will never get it.No, that's not true.
No its not about the clay when you get to finals of hard courts, do okay on hard slams and final a wimbledon etc. But he is a clay courter, he will slip by Djokovic or someone like him if he does not improve fast, because they are well suited for all courts. So he is undoubtfully the best clay player tennis has seen since borg but hes not there yes. Misses 5 wimbledon titels for a legendary status or at least 5 grand slams other than FO. Whos to say he will not get there ? But the way things look now, the hard court hole is beggining to fill up, too many crocodiles out there.
Well Fed is at 7605 and Nadal at 5485. In ATP race they are at 971 and 982 respectively.Not exactly, Nadal will get 1 point for his 2nd round loss. 1st round was a bye. So he will have 982 points. If Fed wins he will be at 971.
And in ATP ranking points, Nadal will be at 5485 next week. Fed will be at 7505 if he wins.