Facts
Where are the intangibles?Too late. He already did
Yeah, too late for the “he can’t surpass them” argument
Too late. He already did
Nadal is finished. Go cry home now.
He already suprassed them..All Fedal achievements were net enough to stop Novak..
Everyone is tired. But since most of us can't let the other side feel like they had the last word, we're putting in them hours into this useless endeavor.
Oh but Djokovic already has the last word. Only thing fedal have left is some fictional stats. But fedal fans have to give up, not nolefams.
That's what you think. I disagree because despite the stats, there's context behind Djokovic pulling away in major achievements that's stopping me and some other people from considering him the greatest.
Federer last win against Novak in BO5 was in 2012, Nadal's last win against Novak outside clay was in 2013
Lol what a bs. Your fed got the weak era. Don't hate when we are getting the same now.
True...You can dislike the man who is elected as a president but if he has the numbers on his side than he will be on the function.
You're the one hating here. I was expressing my opinion respectfully
Yeah, Djokovic has shown how bad he is in BO5. Not like his rise just coincided with them being phased out.
| Rank | Country | Name | Overall Matches | Won | Lost | Played |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 |
| Rafael Nadal
| 75.68% | 28 | 9 | 37 |
| 2 |
| Pete Sampras | 72.97% | 27 | 10 | 37 |
| 3 |
| Novak Djokovic
| 67.65% | 23 | 11 | 34 |
| 4 |
| Bjorn Borg | 66.67% | 20 | 10 | 30 |
| 5 |
| Roger Federer | 64.58% | 31 | 17 | 48 |
| 6 |
| Boris Becker | 54.05% | 20 | 17 | 37 |
| 7 |
| Ivan Lendl | 53.66% | 22 | 19 | 41 |
| 8 |
| Andre Agassi | 53.13% | 17 | 15 | 32 |
Yeap, Fed will be number 3...Who would said that in 2009?
Yes, and it was his only slam title in 2011-2016 period.. Last 3 he won only because Novak was injured...
Nole is sometimes stupid. He should not have gone with pepe imaz. He had totally constrained Federer's career like a Python wraps around it's pray.
Except that 31 is not same for both players, peaks, primes are extended as well, so Pete was finished at 29, he won his last at 31, Roger & those in his era are in better shape at 29 or at 31 than Pete was, that is what great age shift is all about. Longer primes & slower decline. Plus we haven't factored the bad competition as well.
Novak did not get BO5 finals in his masters title finals or else he would have got many more wins..... So lets look at things in a more interesting way since you like BO5 a lot we shall see win%
BIG TITLES BO5 WIN% (Minimum 30 finals played)
Rank Country Name Overall Matches Won Lost Played 1 Rafael Nadal 75.68% 28 9 37 2 Pete Sampras 72.97% 27 10 37 3 Novak Djokovic 67.65% 23 11 34 4 Bjorn Borg 66.67% 20 10 30 5 Roger Federer 64.58% 31 17 48 6 Boris Becker 54.05% 20 17 37 7 Ivan Lendl 53.66% 22 19 41 8 Andre Agassi 53.13% 17 15 32
This is a brutal truth that Djokovic fans don't want to admit.
Even if Novak never played tennis, Fed wouldn't be able to keep his records beside Nadal.
You expected these guys to stop Novak but Fed and Nadal couldn't? Hahaha...17 wasn't enough, he wanted 3 more and still it wasn't enough.. Hahaha
Yes but he would be better at 3 of 4 slams. Nole is here to destroy Fed's aura. Whatever fed can do Novak can do.
