In league play, I prefer a TB instead of playing a third set. In tournament play I think it should always be a full 3rd set. The difference is in league play its all about teams, but in tournaments its about the individual.
It's not a USTA rule, it's something that's still determined by the sections and local areas.
Some areas still play a full 3rd set.
a TB favors the team that won the 2nd set most, since they are feeding off their momentum. a full 3rd set is more fair.
In my area it is the choice of the home player / doubles pair whether to play full 3rd or match tiebreaker. Each court is allowed to make a different choice.
I prefer a full 3rd. I only choose a 10 pt if there is a chance of rain later on and I want to make sure we can complete before then.
BTW, I would much rather play 2 normal sets plus a 10 pt, versus 3 sets of no-ad scoring.
It's not a USTA rule, it's something that's still determined by the sections and local areas.
Some areas still play a full 3rd set.
In league play, I prefer a TB instead of playing a third set. In tournament play I think it should always be a full 3rd set. The difference is in league play its all about teams, but in tournaments its about the individual.
3rd set of course because it favors the better / more physically fit player and is less likely to result in a fluke upset.
I don't mind a 10-pt tiebreak because I feel like if I can't win a match in straight sets, then I'm not that much better than my opponent that day anyways so I can live with the loss that might be more likely to happen than with a 3rd set.
Most of the time, I feel like the stronger team wins the 10-point tiebreak anyway. I remember keeping track of this over the years. When my team was struggling and playing up, we tended to lose a lot of match tiebreaks. In the years we were dominant and headed toward the playoffs, we rarely lost a match tiebreak.
Agreed. Besides, our match fees are already $17 for 2 hours. You'd need to expand the time allotted if a third set were the norm, and that would increase the cost and decrease the ability to get lots of league matches played each day.
Most of the time, I feel like the stronger team wins the 10-point tiebreak anyway. I remember keeping track of this over the years. When my team was struggling and playing up, we tended to lose a lot of match tiebreaks. In the years we were dominant and headed toward the playoffs, we rarely lost a match tiebreak.
If the USTA considered changing the rules for league play, would you opt to play a 3rd set for tie breaks, or would you opt to keep it the same and play 10 point tie breakers?
I think the stronger serving team wins most tiebreakers, not necessarily the stronger overall team. Operative phrase here is "I think".
Call me old-fashioned - or just old, if you wish - but I stick with the traditional full setters here.
Your observation would probably prove statistically true for most league tennis matches. However, my desire to play a 3rd set has more to do with getting more exercise, and having more time to enjoy the game, than to change outcomes.
I would disagree for levels up to ladies 3.5, and maybe even up to 4.0. The serves just aren't that big of a factor. In fact, I would bet that you could flip a coin and let the winner serve every point in the tiebreak, and it wouldn't make any difference.
The team that takes the net will win the tiebreak, IMHO. The other team will be too tight and nervous and cautious to hit good passing shots and lobs.
I like tie-breaks because I'm fat and out of shape.
Well at least your honest about it!
I personally like the 3rd set tiebreak for league play. I have noticed in our league that more guys hang out till the end of the match knowing it won't be a 3 hour match. Also, the courts are usually scheduled every 1.5 to 2 hours, so you know the matches will go off on time. Now that I am older and more injury prone and have a family, the time factor is important to me. 10 years ago I would have preferred the full third set for more exercise.
As an FYI, I took a quick look at our league. In doubles, first set winner won 9 matches and second set winner won 13. In singles, the first set winner won 4 and the second set winner won 11.
It was as expected that the second set winner won more matches...also the advantage was more pronounced in singles, which makes sense to me. If you take stamina out of the equation with a 3rd set tiebreak, I tend to think whoever was playing better at the end would win the match. In doubles, a team can get down 1 break and never make it up, even though they might be overall the better team.
I love being the person that wants the third set when the oponents don't. It gets in their heads from the very beginning of the match.
Honestly I didnt expect the poll results to be so lopsided.
I guess with most of the users here being recreational players that have to PAY to play their tennis they prefer getting as much court time as possible and see the 3rd set tiebreaker as a ripoff.
Have not read the entire thread. I can see the poll results and most of my tennis playing friends would vote for the 3rd set. However, I do not believe the USTA will evere go back to a full 3rd set for league matches mostly for ease of scheduling matches it has produced for league and league tournament organizers. Ever since they went to the tie-breaker my experience at the state and region have been that no match delays now occur (barring rain of course). This has to be a huge factor. Locally or section by section I guess they could bring back the 3rd set. I still don't see it happening though.
If team captains both agreed in local matches I'm sure the 3rd set could be played.
I think it is more about money... scheduling you could always allow for a little more time between matches.
Back in 80's I played league and we only ever played 3 full sets of tennis. There was never a 3rd set tie-breaker to decide a match, and there never seemed to be scheduling problems... we got our matches in.
Our district has a 2 hr limit on matches. Whoever is ahead by 2 games wins the set. Last year that split the sets and a 3rd set tie-break was needed. Players could barely see their shoelaces at the end. At playoffs there is no time limit and back when we played third sets, had two singles matches last 4 1/2 hrs each.
It happens... but tennis is more than just being able to hit the ball in the court... stamina I would like to believe is also a part of the game. It also bothers me to have a match hinge potentially on 2 points in a tie-breaker.
I remember a tournament match on a very hot day. I was playing an older gentleman... and thought it would be an easy match. As it happened he disected my net game with lobs and precision passing shots, the score was 6-4 but he made shots when he had to. In the second set I decided to stay on the baseline with him and moved him all over the court. I won it 6-4 and he came up to the net to shake my hand... he retired stating he could not go a third with me.
With the current situation, if we were to play a 3rd set tie-breaker I would have been penalized for being in better shape than my opponent. I just think tie-breakers were invented for the convienence of TV and schedulers... it does not improve on the game of tennis.
As you can see by the poll most would rather play a full 3rd set.