Throwing a football and serving

LeeD · Oct 20, 2010

Big BenR tossed his 65 yards in a GAME SITUATION!
I'd bet he could throw +20 given no pressure, good warmups, no injuries, and no behemoth chasing him down trying to take his helmet off throw his shoulders.
AndyRoddick served what....155mph in a match?
He could go better given just serve practice with no pressure.
Don't you guys know an athletic can perform SPECIFIC function better when no pressure is applied? Have you ever played any sports?

USERNAME · Oct 20, 2010

LeeD said:
Yes, easily.
With NO practice, and just 3 short warmup throws, I can get the football to go 50+ yards, or 150', without any difficulty.
A softball is not varied in diameter. It's exactly the same size as any other softball. I don't know how stupid Wikipedia can be, but that is the honest truth.....there is only ONE size of a softball.
I think I typed my first toss landed upper half of the fence, that was located 240' away, and that is possibly as high as 55'. I did not say it hit the top.
I don't care how badly a QB can throw. NO QB can throw a javelin anywhere near 265', about average for Olympic Q's.
QB's are QB's not for their armstrength, but for their game management, ability to create plays, ability to rally the troops, and lack of ability to make dumb mistakes. QB's for our high school, which won the city wide championships in my junior year, and lost the city champs my senior year, did not nearly have a decent long arm. MikeHolmgrem, then PaulOliphant both had rather weak arms.
Like a tennis serve top speed, the longest ever golf drive, or the farthest ever kick be it soccer, football, or whatever, throwing far is NOT limited to professional ball players.

I really wanna see you try to throw a football 50 yards.

r2473 · Oct 20, 2010

LeeD said:
A softball is not varied in diameter. It's exactly the same size as any other softball. I don't know how stupid Wikipedia can be, but that is the honest truth.....there is only ONE size of a softball. I think I typed my first toss landed upper half of the fence, that was located 240' away, and that is possibly as high as 55'. I did not say it hit the top.

No, Wiki is right. "Beer league" slow-pitch will sometimes use 14", but most often use 12". The fast pitch softball is much different than either of these.

You said the fence was 240' (80 yards) away, was 40' tall and was on a 20' hill and that your toss landed 3/4 up the wall (first throw, no warmups).

Personally, I think you are amazing. I don't know what is wrong with the rest of these guys. I know you can toss as far as "Big Ben" today. Even further if you were 14 years old again.

USERNAME · Oct 20, 2010

LeeD said:
Big BenR tossed his 65 yards in a GAME SITUATION!
I'd bet he could throw +20 given no pressure, good warmups, no injuries, and no behemoth chasing him down trying to take his helmet off throw his shoulders.
AndyRoddick served what....155mph in a match?
He could go better given just serve practice with no pressure.
Don't you guys know an athletic can perform SPECIFIC function better when no pressure is applied? Have you ever played any sports?

It was a last ditch attempt to get a win by launching the ball into the endzone and hoping a receiver gets under it, and he didnt reach the endzone even though he put a ton of effort into the throw (was 5 yards short).

LeeD · Oct 20, 2010

50 yards is nothing, it's 150 feet, or 6 houses in the SunsetDistrict of SanFrancisco. I'd throw that distance by 8th grade, and quite a bit farther. Yes, the electrical and telephone lines hang down in the way, about 35' above the street, so only throws that found their way clean through counted.
And yes, I could throw a baseball much farther than I can bat one.
And yes, I could throw a football much much farther than I can kick one, and I kicked a few kickoffs for Lincoln's Mustangs.
Shall we up the ante? In 1980, thinking of trying out for the 49'ers fieldgoal kicker position, I mostly practiced from 30-35 yards, making more than 70%, missing more by pulling the kick left (me kick rightie) than lack of distance. That equates to NFL's standard of a 45 yard field goal. Yes, you read that right.

r2473 · Oct 20, 2010

LeeD said:
50 yards is nothing, it's 150 feet, or 6 houses in the SunsetDistrict of SanFrancisco. I'd throw that distance by 8th grade

For the record, in 8th grade (13-14 years old) leeD could throw the football over 70 yards. We went over this when I produced the "Punt, Pass, and Kick" standing records for different age groups........which he dismissively proclaimed he had exceeded.

It is a few pages back.

Power Player · Oct 20, 2010

I have now had sex with over 15 supermodels. I started in 1992, the first one was introduced to me in Sunnyvale, PA by my friend Norm Rusterman. Norm ran a bar called "The Flying Eagle" in which he booked me to perform. That night I met a young lady who was in town visiting Norm while taking a break from a Cosmo shoot. I proceeded to drink 14 shots of Gin (documented by him counting each one and marking the wall with a knife) before taking this girl home and giving her the business.

In addition to not vomiting, my performance was so substantial that she claimed I was "by far the best ever" and wrote me 3 years later to tell me this again after a weeklong tryst with Don Johnson.

Upon hearing this I became filled with pride and walked outside and threw a neighbor's soccer ball the distance of 5 houses, which equals roughly 75 yards. If you do not believe me, please take the next flight to Dothan Alabama and look for the subdivision called Whispering Oaks. Upon entering,measure the distance 5 houses down. I defy you to tell me it's not 75 yards.

If you don't believe me you are a loser who is not only bad at sports, but a failure at life in general.

SuperDuy · Oct 20, 2010

LeeD said:
50 yards is nothing, it's 150 feet, or 6 houses in the SunsetDistrict of SanFrancisco. I'd throw that distance by 8th grade, and quite a bit farther. Yes, the electrical and telephone lines hang down in the way, about 35' above the street, so only throws that found their way clean through counted.
And yes, I could throw a baseball much farther than I can bat one.
And yes, I could throw a football much much farther than I can kick one, and I kicked a few kickoffs for Lincoln's Mustangs.
Shall we up the ante? In 1980, thinking of trying out for the 49'ers fieldgoal kicker position, I mostly practiced from 30-35 yards, making more than 70%, missing more by pulling the kick left (me kick rightie) than lack of distance. That equates to NFL's standard of a 45 yard field goal. Yes, you read that right.

So after how long did you get cut by the 49ers? Did you play in any games?

r2473 · Oct 20, 2010

Power Player said:
Upon hearing this I became filled with pride and walked outside and threw a neighbor's soccer ball the distance of 5 houses, which equals roughly 75 yards. If you do not believe me, please take the next flight to Dothan Alabama and look for the subdivision called Whispering Oaks. Upon entering,measure the distance 5 houses down. I defy you to tell me it's not 75 yards.

I know that subdivision. I think this is closer to 90 yards. "Big Ben" lived there for a while and could only toss it 4 houses as I recall.

How old were you at this time? About 10 I assume.

r2473 · Oct 20, 2010

SuperDuy said:
So after how long did you get cut by the 49ers? Did you play in any games?

No. LeeD is too modest for that. He was just practicing in the backyard. He could kick the ball 5 houses and clear the overhanging wires on the last one. That equates to a 45 yard field goal.

LeeD · Oct 20, 2010

Good stuff, guys. Keep entertaining yourselves.
Superduy. Did I say I actually made the 49'ers team? Or did you just assume that? Knowing a bit about you, I'm surprised it's so easy to jump on the bandwagon. I was hoping you'd come by this summer, so we could hit some, and maybe show you the area for windsurfing, kiteboarding, and tennis.
I would not by shy about tossing a football around with you. NOBODY can come close, and I've tossed footballs with TomalesHigh's 6'4" PhilRodriquez back in '96, and his fastball in baseball was reputed to hit the high 80's, rising and whinning it's way towards home plate. He was all state QB for TomalesHigh, a state of California Div 1V runnerup team.

Power Player · Oct 20, 2010

Whatever Lee, when I was 12 years I old I moved to Rochester New York and ended up throwing the ball around with Pinellias County's top player, a young man named Marcello Gaucho. Needless to say, I taught him a few things about putting some extra zip on his fastball. I threw so hard that his hand swelled up. He could tell by the swelling of his hand that I was throwing right around 95 MPH..Now put me in a game and I froze right up. It dropped right down to 78 due to the immense pressure of the situation. But when it was just me and Marcello having some fun at the park, I was throwing 95 mph heaters and long tossing it 2 football fields.

SuperDuy · Oct 20, 2010

LeeD said:
Good stuff, guys. Keep entertaining yourselves.
Superduy. Did I say I actually made the 49'ers team? Or did you just assume that? Knowing a bit about you, I'm surprised it's so easy to jump on the bandwagon. I was hoping you'd come by this summer, so we could hit some, and maybe show you the area for windsurfing, kiteboarding, and tennis.
I would not by shy about tossing a football around with you. NOBODY can come close, and I've tossed footballs with TomalesHigh's 6'4" PhilRodriquez back in '96, and his fastball in baseball was reputed to hit the high 80's, rising and whinning it's way towards home plate. He was all state QB for TomalesHigh, a state of California Div 1V runnerup team.

So you did not make the team then? Did you get cut right before the start of the season or in the beginning of camp? Check your inbox...

Larrysümmers · Oct 20, 2010

Since it is story time, and i am bored, i will tell you all a story about me in the summers of 7th grade
during a baseball tourny, the outfield was playing a shift towards right field. the batter hit the down the third base line and into the corner. i ran over from left center, picked up the ball, and threw it to home. it was a perfect strike to the catcher, and he tagged the guy out who was trying to score from second. from the the fence to the plate was 210 feet.
and thats my story. i hope you all enjoyed it.

r2473 · Oct 21, 2010

I scored four touchdowns "in a single game" while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against my old nemesis, “Spare Tire” Dixon.

jdawgg · Oct 21, 2010

Power Player said:
I have now had sex with over 15 supermodels. I started in 1992, the first one was introduced to me in Sunnyvale, PA by my friend Norm Rusterman. Norm ran a bar called "The Flying Eagle" in which he booked me to perform. That night I met a young lady who was in town visiting Norm while taking a break from a Cosmo shoot. I proceeded to drink 14 shots of Gin (documented by him counting each one and marking the wall with a knife) before taking this girl home and giving her the business.

In addition to not vomiting, my performance was so substantial that she claimed I was "by far the best ever" and wrote me 3 years later to tell me this again after a weeklong tryst with Don Johnson.

Upon hearing this I became filled with pride and walked outside and threw a neighbor's soccer ball the distance of 5 houses, which equals roughly 75 yards. If you do not believe me, please take the next flight to Dothan Alabama and look for the subdivision called Whispering Oaks. Upon entering,measure the distance 5 houses down. I defy you to tell me it's not 75 yards.

If you don't believe me you are a loser who is not only bad at sports, but a failure at life in general.

thank you for this i had a really really good laugh.

aphex · Oct 21, 2010

Power Player said:
I have now had sex with over 15 supermodels. I started in 1992, the first one was introduced to me in Sunnyvale, PA by my friend Norm Rusterman. Norm ran a bar called "The Flying Eagle" in which he booked me to perform. That night I met a young lady who was in town visiting Norm while taking a break from a Cosmo shoot. I proceeded to drink 14 shots of Gin (documented by him counting each one and marking the wall with a knife) before taking this girl home and giving her the business.

In addition to not vomiting, my performance was so substantial that she claimed I was "by far the best ever" and wrote me 3 years later to tell me this again after a weeklong tryst with Don Johnson.

Upon hearing this I became filled with pride and walked outside and threw a neighbor's soccer ball the distance of 5 houses, which equals roughly 75 yards. If you do not believe me, please take the next flight to Dothan Alabama and look for the subdivision called Whispering Oaks. Upon entering,measure the distance 5 houses down. I defy you to tell me it's not 75 yards.

If you don't believe me you are a loser who is not only bad at sports, but a failure at life in general.

thanks for the lulz

LeeD · Oct 21, 2010

SuperDuy...
Did not make it to the tryouts. It was 1980, they needed fieldgoal kickers, but I finally turned expert in motocross, relighting a new stoke for the sport after 250 odd races as a novice (AMA). Was CMC expert, VeteranExpert, but loved to crash on 125 and 250 Novice.
Took only 3 races to get out of AMA Intermediate.

aphex · Oct 21, 2010

LeeD said:
SuperDuy...
Did not make it to the tryouts. It was 1980, they needed fieldgoal kickers, but I finally turned expert in motocross, relighting a new stoke for the sport after 250 odd races as a novice (AMA). Was CMC expert, VeteranExpert, but loved to crash on 125 and 250 Novice.
Took only 3 races to get out of AMA Intermediate.

I heard the poster Power Player could run the dirt road between
Mrs. Utermayer's vacation house and Jack's rifle store in Yukata county in 3:54 (Pete, the manager of the "Drunken Pelican" can confirm)...

You think you can beat that?

Power Player · Oct 21, 2010

^^^

You know Pete too? What a small world it is.

r2473 · Oct 21, 2010

LeeD said:
Shall we up the ante? In 1980, thinking of trying out for the 49'ers fieldgoal kicker position, I mostly practiced from 30-35 yards, making more than 70%, missing more by pulling the kick left (me kick rightie) than lack of distance. That equates to NFL's standard of a 45 yard field goal. Yes, you read that right.

LeeD said:
It was 1980, they (49ers) needed fieldgoal kickers

Ray Wersching was the kicker for the 49ers from 1977 thru 1987 (after kicking for the Chargers for 4 seasons). He had a (comparatively) good year in 1979. Why they wanted to get rid of him in 1980 ("needed field goal kickers") is a mystery.............

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/05490237

He had a very good career.

We all know LeeD would have done better. I'm just saying his career wasn't bad by "mere mortal" standards...........

I wonder if LeeD was considering trying out for the 49ers QB position. As I recall, they didn't have much at that position in 1980 either................

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/rosters.nsf/Annual/1980-sf

aphex · Oct 21, 2010

r2473 said:
Ray Wersching was the kicker for the 49ers from 1977 thru 1987 (after kicking for the Chargers for 4 seasons). He had a (comparatively) good year in 1979. Why they wanted to get rid of him in 1980 ("needed field goal kickers") is a mystery.............

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/players.nsf/ID/05490237

He had a very good career.

We all know LeeD would have done better. I'm just saying his career wasn't bad by "mere mortal" standards...........

I wonder if LeeD was considering trying out for the 49ers QB position. As I recall, they didn't have much at that position in 1980 either................

http://www.jt-sw.com/football/pro/rosters.nsf/Annual/1980-sf

Are you utterly clueless?

By the end of '79, Ray Wersching could not throw more than 4.75 Albert Street houses( the Albert street in Jameson county, Wyoming) ...

r2473 · Oct 21, 2010

^^I seriously want to hear from LeeD why the 49ers were desperately looking for a kicker for the 1980 season.

I'm also curious why he was thinking that a 30-35 year old man (LeeD is 60 or 65 now I think) with no previous kicking experience (that he has talked about......apart from his neighbors yard) would be a perfect fit to make his debut for a professional franchise.

To be honest, I would have a tendency to believe Power Players stories have more truth in them than LeeD's. Both are funny though....just for different reasons.

LeeD · Oct 21, 2010

OK, I'll tell you. And it can be backed up by any history of the 49'ers.
'79, Wershing, bad spelling, good surfer compared to RussFrancis, missed game winning or tying fieldgoals on 7 games that season, out of maybe 12 total games. NO, he did not miss them all in crucial end of game scenarios, but missed in the first 3 quarters leading to an average of maybe 5 points lost per game. 9'ers tended to never get into the goal line from the red zone those days, so a fieldgoal try (yes, I know, 3 pts.) was tried maybe twice each half.
Call out, during first 1/3 of '80, for open tryouts for fieldgoal kickers. I had kicked a few fieldgoals for LincolnHigh's Mustangs, and could punt around 55 yards, so my housebud got in touch with the 9'ers and we both started practicing. He could kick straight on about from the 35 yard line, but was lazy and refused to WORK on his kicking.
I had a little less distance, had just converted to soccer style kicking, and had to work on it.
But finally getting out of Novice class turned the tide for me. More fun to race motocross for money anyways. I never was in contact with the team, as my bud did all the footwork to get the paperwork done. He ended up not showing up either, as we heard some college guys could actually MAKE fieldgoals from the 40 yard line. Waay beyond my range.

r2473 · Oct 21, 2010

LeeD said:
OK, I'll tell you. And it can be backed up by any history of the 49'ers.
'79, Wershing, bad spelling, good surfer compared to RussFrancis, missed game winning or tying fieldgoals on 7 games that season, out of maybe 12 total games. NO, he did not miss them all in crucial end of game scenarios, but missed in the first 3 quarters leading to an average of maybe 5 points lost per game. 9'ers tended to never get into the goal line from the red zone those days, so a fieldgoal try (yes, I know, 3 pts.) was tried maybe twice each half.

Wershing was 20 of 24 FG's in 1979

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/werscray01.htm

Also, the 49ers were awful in 1980. I doubt if their losses had much to do with Wershing missing 4 field goals:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/1979.htm

LeeD: Come on man. I could tell better lies in grade school. You need to put a little effort into this. At least get some basic facts straight before you start randomly spouting off.

SuperDuy · Oct 21, 2010

r2473 said:
Wershing was 20 of 24 FG's in 1979

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/werscray01.htm

Also, the 49ers were awful in 1980. I doubt if their losses had much to do with Wershing missing 4 field goals:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/1979.htm

LeeD: Come on man. I could tell better lies in grade school. You need to put a little effort into this. At least get some basic facts straight before you start randomly spouting off.

Maybe he meant 1978m because then he was 15 for 23, not so good of a record.

r2473 · Oct 21, 2010

SuperDuy said:
Maybe he meant 1978m because then he was 15 for 23, not so good of a record.

Well that's what I mean. If LeeD put even the least bit of effort into this, he could match the facts to a story he wants to tell.

However, bear in mind that LeeD was over 30 years old at this time and would have been relying on his apparent high school kicking experience some 10-15 years earlier (and no college experience, no soccer experience, etc).

LeeD said:
I had kicked a few fieldgoals for LincolnHigh's Mustangs,

It is still a long road from "Ray Wersing had bad year" to "I was going to try out and had a realistic chance of making the 49ers".

Or maybe all LeeD really wishes to tell us is "the 49ers had an open kicking try out "sometime" and my stoner buddy and I were thinking about going, but in the end, we were both too lazy to even take the bus to the tryout......which we obviously wouldn't have been allowed in anyway".

To be honest, I've never heard of a team having "open tryouts". Can you imagine the 1000's of yahoo's that would show up? Yes, LeeD's buddy was handling the paperwork and was in contact with the team. I still don't understand the imagined criteria used for selection:

"Ah ya, I'm LeeD. Uh, 15 years ago I used to kick for the Mustangs".

"Oh really, great. Where have you been kicking in the meantime"

"Well, I kick some in my backyard. I can kick the ball at least 5 house length. Just ask my buddy Norm Rusterman. He'll tell ya".

"Er, ah.........ya. We'll get back to you if we have any interest".

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

Gee, I was off by 2 years, of something 35 years ago. SORRY !!
You need to worry about specifics, like grammer, while I focus on concepts. Exact dates don't matter, ballpark is close enough, since we're talking concepts and ideas, not who can search internet the best.... YOU DO! YOU ARE THE BEST LIBRARIAN!
Yes, they publicly announced "OPEN TRYOUTS".
Yes, I was close to 30. But so were Ray and RussFrancis, both of whom I surfed with a few times, and still within their careers.
Yes, FatDave was a stoner. But he could stand flatfooted under a red streetsign, jump up and kick it, and land on his two feet with a slight recovery step. Streetsign was over 6'6" high. I cannot do that.
I guess you don't believe in reaching out and dreaming.
I'm sorry for you.

r2473 · Oct 22, 2010

LeeD said:
Gee, I was off by 2 years, of something 35 years ago. SORRY !!
You need to worry about specifics, like grammer, while I focus on concepts. Exact dates don't matter, ballpark is close enough, since we're talking concepts and ideas, not who can search internet the best.... YOU DO! YOU ARE THE BEST LIBRARIAN!
Yes, they publicly announced "OPEN TRYOUTS".
Yes, I was close to 30. But so were Ray and RussFrancis, both of whom I surfed with a few times, and still within their careers.
Yes, FatDave was a stoner. But he could stand flatfooted under a red streetsign, jump up and kick it, and land on his two feet with a slight recovery step. Streetsign was over 6'6" high. I cannot do that.
I guess you don't believe in reaching out and dreaming.
I'm sorry for you.

I think your position can be summed up with the following:

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

It is a fairly strange attitude to have. You cited a very specific year. You also cite very specific measurements. I took maybe 2 minutes time to fact check against reality.

So, what other parts of your story are "not strictly factual"?

So what you are basically saying is that the 49ers had open tryouts sometime in their franchise history and you and your amazing stoner buddy heard about them and thought about trying out......but didn't.

Yes, I can believe this is true.

Actually, your last post puts most of what you have been saying into better perspective. It sheds valuable insight into how you think and how you see the world.

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

Well, don't you ever dream?
I figured being a field goal kicker was worth easy 35k at the time. They had a pretty good punter who could go 60 yards in the air even in colder weather.
I was SPENDING 35k a year on motocross, just to get out of AMA Novice! My van, paid $55 each Sunday so I didn't have to drive taxi, 2 new bikes a year, double that in mods, one or 2 used ex expert bikes a year ( I was racing more than 60 races a year then), and a bit for gas on those F-350 extended bed vans with 460's, auto, and 8mpg.
Most races, I'd enter 125, 250 Novice, and then VetExpert, needing an Open bike for the starts and slow cornering those old farts did. And never having a clothing sponsor, had to wear Kawasaki, Yamaha, and Suzuki pants and jerseys to match...

A pair of Scott boots every 3 months, new BellMoto3's every 3 months, and it adds up really quick.
I'd flush about 30 grand just on that one stupid sport each year.
Why not try for something that might be just as $$$ rewarding, but less work?

r2473 · Oct 22, 2010

LeeD said:
Well, don't you ever dream?

No need to feel sorry for me. Recall that when Pandora opened the jar and released the evils of the world, the lid was replaced before "hope" escaped. What did Hesiod mean? Good question.

Lottery tickets only cost $1.............

Or as Paul puts it:

"When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me".

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

Actually, a lottery ticket costs a whole lot more than one simple buck.
How many people buy lottery tickets for YEARS and never win anything back?
And having a hope in one area (winning lottery), can take away desire to WORK to make $$$ in other areas.
I have never gambled more than one dollar (slot machine) in my life. I don't believe that "luck" intends to strike me down anytime soon.
I also don't collect unemployment, welfare, foodstamps, or any of that free stuff which I qualify for.
However, I do intend to collect SocialSecurity the coming Feb.

aphex · Oct 22, 2010

LeeD said:
Actually, a lottery ticket costs a whole lot more than one simple buck.
How many people buy lottery tickets for YEARS and never win anything back?
And having a hope in one area (winning lottery), can take away desire to WORK to make $$$ in other areas.
I have never gambled more than one dollar (slot machine) in my life. I don't believe that "luck" intends to strike me down anytime soon.
I also don't collect unemployment, welfare, foodstamps, or any of that free stuff which I qualify for.
However, I do intend to collect SocialSecurity the coming Feb.

How come you've become a useless, homeless, societal burden with all your extraordinary sporting abilities?

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

You say I have "extrod..whatever"...
I just state what I could do then and what I could do now.
I tried to make it in surfing (4A), tennis (played in 2 Q's almost successfully), roadracing (3rd overall, 250 production in '67 landed me a #3 spot on BSAWesterns (SanJose) spot on the Daytona bikes team), motocross (after 4 long years and over 160 races finally made Expert for prize money), windsurfing (NationalTeam rider for Gaastra, development team for Seatrend and Haut, Oneill wetsuit sponsor, Fiberspar booms, Powerex masts... but I never made any $$$$, rather, I'd spend X amount of $$$ only to get back X- sumsuch........needing a job in the industry to pay for rent and food, entertainment and g/f expenses.
I know it's hard for you to understand, but making it in the pros is very different than ALMOST making it in the pros. I can almost make it to pro level in many sports, I cannot make it to pro level in ANY sports. See the difference?

r2473 · Oct 22, 2010

LeeD said:
I can almost make it to pro level in many sports, I cannot make it to pro level in ANY sports. See the difference?

Yes, I see the difference.

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

That's why, in between my "braggard" intonations, there's the "I suck" thing going on.
Failure, even with lofty goals, is still failure.

Power Player · Oct 22, 2010

Well, sorry for your luck. I have been a smashing success at about everything I have done before falling into a life of drugs and depravity at roughly the age of 28.

It was about this time that I ran into Stefanie Germonatta on the lower east side during a local Rock N roll meets Table Tennis tournament in which I was the #2 seed (underneath Eddie Venezuela from Queens..of course). In a verbose frenzy induced by consuming too much Absinthe, I convinced her that copying Bowie's look (circa '78-79) was a VERY cool idea and should be done immediatley.

r2473 · Oct 22, 2010

LeeD said:
That's why, in between my "braggard" intonations, there's the "I suck" thing going on.
Failure, even with lofty goals, is still failure.

Dear god.......

It would be interesting to compare your notion of "reality" with reality. I suspect the two are quite unfamiliar with each other, if not complete strangers.

^^^^EDIT: Power Player is much funnier than I am.

aphex · Oct 22, 2010

r2473 said:
Dear god.......

It would be interesting to compare your notion of "reality" with reality. I suspect the two are quite unfamiliar with each other, if not complete strangers.

^^^^EDIT: Power Player is much funnier than I am.

Indeed...Lee has brought a new Russell Brand out of PP...

The most I've laughed on TT in the past year...

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

You who were afraid to try ....didn't try! :shock:
Me who didn't mind failure tried and gave it my best shot.
Who'd you rather be, in the end?

r2473 · Oct 22, 2010

What exactly were we trying to do again?

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

Tried to find a shortcut through life without the working 9-5 and someone else's structured schedule.
Was always good at sports, so tried that direction.
Was horrible at English and Math, so avoided that direction.
Surfing was most fun, and like all the other's, almost paid off.
Almost is basically a failure.

r2473 · Oct 22, 2010

I think you and Frank have at least one thing in common:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxMzc6Rig4&feature=related

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

You're doing me a HUGE favor to mention Frank on anything connected to me.

r2473 · Oct 22, 2010

Or maybe John sums it up better for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da69-pu_pqc

LeeD · Oct 22, 2010

Well, thanks.
Sometimes, we gotta head upstream, even though convention says to swim downstream with the current.
Shakespeare mentioned life's but a stage, and we are all players upon that stage.
So knowing I had ONE life to live right now, I might as well chase my dreams, even if they do always end up in failure. The journey might be worth much more than the destination.

Power Player · Oct 23, 2010

Lee, I am on a mini vacation on Bombay and just stayed up all night reading all of your 8 thousand posts to a small village on the east side of Thane Creek.

While most of the youngsters fell asleep when I bravely plowed through post #110, the proud and dedicated few that stayed the course had a look in their eyes of acknowledgment and wonder. Upon gazing at the deep and focused looks in their eyes, I truly felt like I had made a significant change in their lives by sharing your deep thoughts.

Later today I was told that 0% of the population speaks any form of english, and most of the kids that stayed awake were simply on a powerful form of exstacy and listening to their ipods during the reading.

LeeD · Oct 23, 2010

Well, you are certainly welcome to post your ideas and thoughts.
However, the more you do, the more you expose your lack of knowledge and your the huge barriers you build around you, to enable you to live your happy little life without ever expanding any horizons.
Have a good day, and remember ONE thing,.....not everyone needs to live by YOUR STANDARDS!

aphex · Oct 24, 2010

LeeD said:
Well, you are certainly welcome to post your ideas and thoughts.
However, the more you do, the more you expose your lack of knowledge and your the huge barriers you build around you, to enable you to live your happy little life without ever expanding any horizons.
Have a good day, and remember ONE thing,.....not everyone needs to live by YOUR STANDARDS!

Homeless guy giving life advice...priceless...

5263 · Oct 24, 2010

LeeD said:
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Surfing was most fun, and like all the other's, almost paid off.
Almost is basically a failure.

IS this like Ricky Bobby when he said, " second place is the 1st loser!" lol

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