Sentinel
Bionic Poster
We are not talking about Nadal here.
Roger Federer Brain of The Year!!!
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Sentinel
Bionic Poster
And had Rafa been named you would have been singing another tune. Haha, you guys are the pits. When they give this to Rafa one year, suddenly it will become meaningful.
Get a life, dude. Seriously.
TennisAddict121
Banned
Well, they can't give him the award for best player of the year (obviously), best athlete, best body (haha), so they've found nothing better than... best brain? :shock:
Totally hilarious for anyone who's ever heard the guy say a sentence: I you know like you know Rambo. Was Freud in Dirty Dancing? You know. I'm sure he's a big fan of mine you know. He'll be more excited to meet me than I to meet him. You know
Fed: intellectual of the decade, is that what they call the decline of western civilization? Rofl
Can't wait for next year when he receives his nobel prize...
Umm western civilization is not declining in terms of intelligence. Europe has the strongest undergrad programs in the world, of these countries Germany and Switzerland top the charts
Also Federer is much more eloquent with his English than any other player I have heard speak. This is also due to the fact that both Switzerland and Germany have high scores for English profiancy tests than the United States does. Not to mention he speaks 4 different languages better than most people in the world can speak their primary language. (He knows 5 but admits he is not fluent in Italian)
You don't like Federer, fine no problem there that is easy to accept. In fact I don't like Federer either, he is a cocky @$$hole. Tennis players are purely subjective. When you argue the pandemic strength of the Western civilization based of one tennis player (who is actually smart btw) then we have a huge issue. Mainly because its an insult to all academics, and college students alike
Then again, your post could simply discredit all things I said based on how many illicit logical fallacies that thing broke. For instance #4 Ad hominum, saying a statement is not true by trying to discredit the person based on acheivements, character flaws, or a simple dislike for the person in question
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namelessone
Legend
Most people overrate language ability and almost always equate language learning with a high IQ, which is pretty stupid IMO. I know a girl who speaks 4 LANGUAGES FLUENTLY but who hasn't figured what she wants to do in life(probably teach I would think) and doesn't really have an interest in any other areas. She's a bright girl but has no direction. Meanwhile I have a buddy who speaks only one foreign language besides his mother tongue but has a engineering degree and has recently started working in the institute for space sciences in Bucharest. They have both specialized in their areas(language/engineering) yet my guy friend does have some knowledge in her field but she has no knowledge whatsoever of his field.Tell me who is the smarter of the two.
What a lot of people don't realize is that some people dedicate themselves to a certain area so much that they don't really give a crap about others. Nadal is like that with tennis(and maybe other things) so learning new languages does not come naturally for him because he doesn't desire it.
Let's take another famous example: Albert Einstein. The guy was the first thing that comes to mind when we hear the word genius yet he was never fluent in English, even after moving to the US. Though he lived in the U.S. for decades, he preferred to speak his native language and only hired assistants who could speak German. His English vocabulary was pretty limited. Should we call einstein stupid or limited cause he didn't want to learn English fully? And remember, he was german, and german is pretty close to english language wise. No, Einstein wasn't dumb, but he was fully dedicated to the sciences and he did not wish to waste time with english, even though he lived in a country where that was the official language(way worse situation than Nadal who only has to speak in in press conferences).
Raiden
Hall of Fame
What crap is this? Who exactly told Nadturds that Roger is a Shakespeare poet?Well, they can't give him the award for best player of the year (obviously), best athlete, best body (haha), so they've found nothing better than... best brain? :shock:
Totally hilarious for anyone who's ever heard the guy say a sentence: I you know like you know Rambo. Was Freud in Dirty Dancing? You know. I'm sure he's a big fan of mine you know. He'll be more excited to meet me than I to meet him. You know
Fed: intellectual of the decade, is that what they call the decline of western civilization? Rofl
Can't wait for next year when he receives his nobel prize...
His intelligence rep has little to do with his English (as is the case with lots of others in that list including Stephen Howking) Englsh is his second or third language for For a non native his speaks it well especially since he speaks lots of other languages
Just unbelievable how butt-picker ****s are so up in arms about this. Fed-envy is inevitable to an extent but this is pathetic. "Oh Nooo, Roger has won a prize booo boooo... bamos Rafa" LOL.
Raiden
Hall of Fame
If Nadal has low IQ it must be because his Harry-Potter-age fans bewitched and sucked what was there out of him.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Haha. LOL.
I must learn to separate the activity of drinking hot tea and reading this forum. You never know when you are gonna be ambushed by a great post like this.
feetofclay
Semi-Pro
English is the language of his mother and German is the language of his father so I think that one could safely assume that he grew up speaking these languages. French is widely spoken in Switzerland and he trained in France as a youngster so french was a necessity.What are the 'lots of other languages?' He doesn't speak Italian as claimed by TennisAddictand he actually admitted to this when he was asked to say something in Italian to the crowd in Rome. Much is made of his ability to speak many languages, unfortunately it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
niff
Legend
LOL, thanks Holmes. Somewhat bitter and petty point to be incensed over.
Why are people taking this topic at all seriously? Well, maybe TTers genuinely care deeply about the integrity of the obviously prestigious and rigorous "Brain of the Year Award"? Got to love it when the forum is overcome by farce.
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Raiden
Hall of Fame
This may surprise you but erm.... no, English is NOT the mother tongue of his mother.
Yes yes, I am aware of Fed's comments about his mother's english prowess but guess what? I happen to know the language his mother got from her parents and that ain't English! Lynette Du-Rrand (the name alone should give you a bit of a clue: does "Du Rand" sound like a hoity toity native-Anglo name?) is not an Anglo South African but an Afrikaner a.k.a. Boer South African and they happen to speak a form of Dutch, so unlike you I don't have to rely on Fed's english press conferences alone to know these facts (since Fed doesn't like to bore journalists with the real ancestry of his parents).
Yes, mummy Federer speaks excellent english but that's cuz she's well educated (went to an excellent South African college and had a career and so forth. So yes Roger got an excellent opportunity to learn english from his mother but still it wasn't from a native. So I'm afraid you can't label Fed even half-an-Anglo let alone a full one.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Wow ! I cannot believe that so many people equate intelligence to being a nuclear scientist and are scoffing at a tennis player being nominated for this award alongside achievers in other fields.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence
"Intelligence is an umbrella term describing a property of the mind including related abilities, such as the capacities for abstract thought, understanding, communication, reasoning, learning, learning from past experiences, planning, and problem solving."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence
"Intelligence is an umbrella term describing a property of the mind including related abilities, such as the capacities for abstract thought, understanding, communication, reasoning, learning, learning from past experiences, planning, and problem solving."
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
SiriusTennis
Rookie
Well, they can't give him the award for best player of the year (obviously), best athlete, best body (haha), so they've found nothing better than... best brain? :shock:
Totally hilarious for anyone who's ever heard the guy say a sentence: I you know like you know Rambo. Was Freud in Dirty Dancing? You know. I'm sure he's a big fan of mine you know. He'll be more excited to meet me than I to meet him. You know
Fed: intellectual of the decade, is that what they call the decline of western civilization? Rofl
Can't wait for next year when he receives his nobel prize...
Bitter much?
And making fun of Federer's English when you're a fan of Nadal. THAT is irony.
Fedex
Legend
Stephen Hawking figured out the theory of super expansion of the Universe at the time of the big bang because astronomers detected light from stars much further than 13.7 billion light years away, older than the Universe and the time of the big bang.
If people here figure out how to get their heads out of Roger's black hole they may, one day, end up being people of independent mind and be on that list themselves.
Oooops!! Sorry did I say that.
No, we are not scoffing nor saying it is not posible. Just that there is not enough evidence for it.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Don't worry, its only one bitter old prune and perhaps his followers
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Really? Well then how intelligent is the player that can beat the most intelligent tennis player with his mind alone when the other player supposedly has better everything else?
MIND FREAK! MIND FREAK!
Raiden
Hall of Fame
Yea rrright, with his mind alone LOL....... I guess his ripped left hand bicep (seemingly more than twice the size of the allegedly intelligent one) has nothing to do with it... the record-speed spinning of the balls is caused by sorcery and witchcraft!
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abmk
Bionic Poster
Well, they can't give him the award for best player of the year (obviously), best athlete, best body (haha), so they've found nothing better than... best brain? :shock:
Totally hilarious for anyone who's ever heard the guy say a sentence: I you know like you know Rambo. Was Freud in Dirty Dancing? You know. I'm sure he's a big fan of mine you know. He'll be more excited to meet me than I to meet him. You know
Fed: intellectual of the decade, is that what they call the decline of western civilization? Rofl
Can't wait for next year when he receives his nobel prize...
hey ignoramus, he won the fan favorite player of the year award. Now go , make a voodoo doll of him to fuel your hate, you can't get by posters who have some knowledge of tennis here, with your clueless, hate-filled statements
P.S. I don't think fed is all that brainy either, but your cluelessnes/hatred just gets exposed with posts like this
As I wrote before, this isn't about academic intelligence.
But just for laughs, here is Fed's own assessment of his student days:
"I had difficulty learning …… when you dont understand the stuff they teach you, school is a pain."
http://gototennis.com/2010/03/04/roger-federer-photos-more-from-ethiopia/
But just for laughs, here is Fed's own assessment of his student days:
"I had difficulty learning …… when you dont understand the stuff they teach you, school is a pain."
http://gototennis.com/2010/03/04/roger-federer-photos-more-from-ethiopia/
niff
Legend
Haha, that's deep.
thejoe
Hall of Fame
Well, they can't give him the award for best player of the year (obviously), best athlete, best body (haha), so they've found nothing better than... best brain? :shock:
Totally hilarious for anyone who's ever heard the guy say a sentence: I you know like you know Rambo. Was Freud in Dirty Dancing? You know. I'm sure he's a big fan of mine you know. He'll be more excited to meet me than I to meet him. You know
Fed: intellectual of the decade, is that what they call the decline of western civilization? Rofl
Can't wait for next year when he receives his nobel prize...
Aren't you enormously witty? No, you aren't.
And it's safe to say that he's far more linguistically accomplished than the player you would have cast your vote for. If Rafa didn't have his non-sequiturs and his punctuative 'no?', then an interview with him in English would be as comprehendible as my dog trying to sing 'Three Times a Lady.'
sdont
Legend
Well, it seemed a little bit weird at first, but it's not "Mind of the Year", it's "Brain of the year". Of course, 'brain' is usually metaphorically used as 'intelligence' but in this particular case, it's not equivalent.
We all know that tennis 'brain' has nothing to do with how many languages you speak or whether you know Freud or not.
Many people here make fun of Fed because he's not too bulky, has a large belly, etc. Surely his success comes from somewhere else?
We all know that tennis 'brain' has nothing to do with how many languages you speak or whether you know Freud or not.
Many people here make fun of Fed because he's not too bulky, has a large belly, etc. Surely his success comes from somewhere else?
namelessone
Legend
Well, it seemed a little bit weird at first, but it's not "Mind of the Year", it's "Brain of the year". Of course, 'brain' is usually metaphorically used as 'intelligence' but in this particular case, it's not equivalent.
We all know that tennis 'brain' has nothing to do with how many languages you speak or whether you know Freud or not.
Many people here make fun of Fed because he's not too bulky, has a large belly, etc. Surely his success comes from somewhere else?
His hair.
GOAT candidates are hairy:
rovex
Legend
His hair.
GOAT candidates are hairy:
That's disgusting.
M
meg0529
Guest
If I understand this correctly, he has only been nominated, I don't think that he actually won the thing. I wouldn't say that he should win, because there are some really worth people up there. What I mean is, it's nice how diverse the nominees are. Not limited to just science/math stuff.
Raiden
Hall of Fame
The whole point of such an award is to point out that intelligence (or perhaps the better english word is smarts or wisdom or whatever) does not equal "rocket scientist".
Otherwise this award would be just another Nobel prize duplicate. There are already enough of those kinds of prizes
Otherwise this award would be just another Nobel prize duplicate. There are already enough of those kinds of prizes
Fedex
Legend
Bloody Richard Fenyman, Niels Bohr and the like "for their fundamental work in quantum electrodynamics, with deep-ploughing consequences for the physics of elementary particles".
Give us Roger Federer anyday tsk tsk.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
Not quite. Some guys used stem cell implants from a guy who was HIV negative, and its cured a guy who had AIDS. High risk (about 10% of death, though).
So are these guys smarter than Federer?
"Give me Federer, anyday", as the old Chinese saying goes.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
That is correct and what makes this post so lame, it is a nomination. He won nothing, very lame.
LameTennisPlayer
Professional
Who won it? I am hoping Magnus Carlsen the chess genius.
FeVer
Semi-Pro
Tennis: not exactly rocket science.
Astrophysics: pretty much rocket science!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
How can you compare Hawking to Federer?! Granted Federer is tennis smart, perhaps even pretty smart generally, but Hawking is an acknowledged genius.
Astrophysics: pretty much rocket science!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
How can you compare Hawking to Federer?! Granted Federer is tennis smart, perhaps even pretty smart generally, but Hawking is an acknowledged genius.
sdont
Legend
Some people say hair is actually dead brain cells. :mrgreen:
Hair is part of the skin not of the brain.
sdont
Legend
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Sentinel
Bionic Poster
what about groin hair. They are dead what ?
Federiffic
Rookie
No,No,No you are very wrong about this, to even become nominate for award, person must satisfy many criteria.
Roger is maybe only tennis player ever who can be nominate and more than satisfy all 11 criteria on list for award.
http://www.braintrust.org.uk/brain-of.asp
To qualify for consideration for this award an individual will need to satisfy the Awards Committee that they satisfy the following criteria.
1. The candidates must be pre-eminent in their field
2. The candidates must have made a major new contribution to their field in the preceding year.
3. The candidates must have contributed major new creative developments to their field of endeavour.
4. The candidates must have made a notable effort to educate others in their chosen discipline.
5. The candidates must have integrated the principle of Mens sana in corpore sano (a healthy mind in a healthy body) in their lives.
6. The candidates must have exhibited persistence and stamina over time.
7. The candidates must have demonstrated a general cultural awareness.
8. The candidates must have demonstrably contributed to society.
9. The candidates must have demonstrated a concern for humanity.
10. The candidates must be active and known on a global level.
11. The candidates must be outstanding role models for those in their fields and for youth in general.
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
After looking at the above criteria, i think Federer should be the ONLY person nominated.
Federer is a fail in 2,3,4. What is his new contribution? How to face Nadal's high ball to his backhand?
Federiffic
Rookie
I have many answers for these questions but just off top of head here is few.
2. He give to people first repeat Champion of Cincinnati Masters in over 15 years!!!
3. He start to change the style of tennis played by all once again, When Roger started playing only baseline game at top years ago, everyone else copy him and they play only baseline too, now Roger decide he will change the style of entire sport once again and play more at net. You will see soon, now everyone else will follow his lead.
4. Roger give advice to Andy Murray on how he should play game and handle pressure of big matches, now Andy has decide to take Roger's advice and he fire coach and will play without coach like Roger has done in past.
Federiffic
Rookie
No,No,No, Nadal he try to play game different using a lot of spin but he fail to achieve all of his goals, so he decide to copy Roger and start hitting slice backhand, hit more through court and change serve to be big like Roger.
Nadal copy Roger style of play, large majority of recent Nadal sucess is direct result of copying Roger style.
Federer should copy Nadal in order to win the Olympics singles gold in 2012. His last chance.
Nadal has won everything.
Federiffic
Rookie
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