Whats the worst surface you have played on?

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
There is a mixed charity tourney here where rich people let the the tourney use their backyard tennis courts. You play round 3 teams in round robin pro sets in the morning then switch and play at another rich persons home in the afternoon.

One backyard court was probably once a nice court behind a beautiful home, but it looked like the homeowners stored fallen leaves on the courts. When we showed up on a bright sunny morning the homes caretaker was shoveling off wet leaves. The court was so slippery and slime covered that you could not run and the ball would get a film after a few minutes.

We played the first year without complaint because we had never played the tourney and did not know better. The second year we refused to play when we were scheduled to the same courts. The tourney directors were embarrassed by our not wanting to play, apologized to the home owners and gave us all loses for those morning matches.

The tourney is now defunct for other reasons.

Wow. I don't even know what to say.

Is that how the 1% live? They all have tennis courts in their back yards, but the very idea of playing tennis is so boring that they let their personal court fall into disrepair? To me, that would be like my buying a designer sequined ball gown and then tossing it in the washing machine.

Neglecting your personal tennis court oughtta be a crime in all 50 states.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Wow. I don't even know what to say.

Is that how the 1% live? They all have tennis courts in their back yards, but the very idea of playing tennis is so boring that they let their personal court fall into disrepair? To me, that would be like my buying a designer sequined ball gown and then tossing it in the washing machine.

Neglecting your personal tennis court oughtta be a crime in all 50 states.

Many estates come with a tennis court when they are purchased, even if the buyer doesn't want it.
 

Cindysphinx

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, but if you buy a house that has a pool and you don't want the pool, do you just let it turn into an algae pond?

These one percenters need to learn some self respect.
 

JW10S

Hall of Fame
Wow. I don't even know what to say.

Neglecting your personal tennis court oughtta be a crime in all 50 states.
I agree. Recently before heading to Europe I was wanting some clay court practice and someone, who was not a tennis player, told me they knew someone who had a Har-Tru court in their backyard. He arranged for me to play there and when I showed up I was impressed by the big beautiful house. Then I saw the court. Clearly the court had not been used or maintained for a very long time. Most of the top surface was gone, there were cracks, and in some places the tacked down lines ended up being raised a good 1/2-3/4 inch above the surface because the Har-Tru had eroded away. The net was maybe 2 feet high in the middle. It was sad--what a waste. This could have been such an asset but the owners couldn't be bothered. The owner saw me leaving shortly after I arrived and yelled out 'you done already?'. I said the court was not playable and she said 'yeah, we never use it'. It took all my will power just to say thanks anyway and leave and not say what I really thought.
 
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purple-n-gold

Hall of Fame
Badly cracked asphalt courts in 100 degree weather in Tucson.

I played in a tourney last week where the courts were badly cracked and sprigs of grass was growing up through the cracks, not to mention the huge generator on one side that sounded like a jet engine : )


Yeah, but if you buy a house that has a pool and you don't want the pool, do you just let it turn into an algae pond?

Have a neighbor that uses his in ground pool for his yard waste and has a small tree growing out of it....def not a 1% though.
 
I played in a tourney last week where the courts were badly cracked and sprigs of grass was growing up through the cracks, not to mention the huge generator on one side that sounded like a jet engine : )


Yeah, but if you buy a house that has a pool and you don't want the pool, do you just let it turn into an algae pond?

Have a neighbor that uses his in ground pool for his yard waste and has a small tree growing out of it....def not a 1% though.

Yeah sounds more like a hill-billie
 

NoQuarter

Rookie

This stuff is by far the worst to play on. Playing on cracked courts...or grass growing up in the court is great compared to this stuff. At least you KNOW where the cracks and grass is! On this stuff, there are dead spots all over the place but you can't tell where they are! First time I warmed up on this stuff out of the first 10 balls I got 10 different bounces. Crazy. Another thing with this stuff is that it builds up static electricity. DO NOT stick your racquet out to get a ball that is against the fence....unless you want a free perm!
 

jacktyler627

New User
played on har tru courts that had the water break on them and had dried out for like 3 days (which were already fairly dry before)

I now know why nadal complained about madrid's blue clay

you get so accustomed to some sort of feeling that when it becomes more slick and you fall multiple times it gets frustrating, especially not being able to play at a hundred percent because of footing/stability
 

Blade0324

Hall of Fame
Grass courts. I have played on true grass as well as an artificial grass court and they are really terrible. Much worse bounces than on clay. The ball really skids, footing is not good and it hardly seems like tennis.
 

coloskier

Legend
Blue clay.

Any clay. Clay is for pigs that want to play in the mud. (joke) In high school we would play on the basketball court in the winter. If you can get your racket prepared on that court you can do it on any court. Forget about hitting with anything but an eastern or continental grip, because the ball would never bounce above your knees.
 

Staidhup

New User
Slow courts, especially ones that have just been refinished. Grass is an old school serve and volley game that punishes base liners, clay is a finesse game. Love them both, but those dam newly refinished slug courts are for the birds.
 

hray4clay

Rookie
The single "outdoor carpet" court on Midway Island. Must have been strafed by the Japanese during WWII! It was awful! Aside from that; the "Hartru" courts at the Grande Dunes tennis club in Myrtle Beach. Worst clay courts ever. Like concrete with sand sprinkled on them...... If a cloud passes by they are closed for hours or days to drain.......
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Public hard courts with cracks with weeds growing through, barely perceptible lines, with slope.
That’s why I joined a tennis club. Too many poorly maintained public courts.
 

OldschoolKIaus

Hall of Fame
Clay. Slow, high bounce.
Too bad almost of any outdoor tennis (including national amateur leauge) in Austria is played on clay.
Just hate it.

lol
 

bcart1991

Professional
Back in HS, I played on a court that used black fence as a net.

A local HS had AT LEAST 6" elevation difference between net and baseline on either side of the court.

Played at a ritzy club in Atlanta once, their clay was so uneven, washed out and dried up, it was like playing on actual dirt.
 

ShaunS

Semi-Pro
Looking for a place to hit in Lexington, KY I went by a high school with some courts that looked really good. I think it was Henry Clay HS. When I step onto the court though it feels oddly spongey. We spent a few minutes trying to warm up, but it was as if someone had loosely laid a carpet that looked like a tennis court on top of a real court. You could push the air gap out by putting pressure on it, so there was little consistency to anything, but every ball died terribly upon hitting the ground.

Admittedly, it's better than the courts at a private college in town. I've attached the Google Earth screengrab. They've basically just left them to decay for the past decade after they dropped their men's tennis program. The women play at a public facility in town, which is sad for a D1 program.
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JW10S

Hall of Fame
I've played on cement, asphalt, grass, synthetic grass, clay, Har-Tru, synthetic clay, Rebound Ace, wood, carpet, rubber, Sport Court, indoor, outdoor--just about everything except the cow dung courts in India. Any of those courts if not maintained can be a nightmare to play on and I've played on nearly all of them in both good and bad conditions. But 2 stand out to me as being especially bad. The 1st being black top asphalt courts that had yellow lines so worn you could barely see them, a nowhere close to level surface, and metal nets that made a horrible clang whenever the ball hit them. The other being Sport Court, plastic honeycombed tiles that snap together. Now those courts look great, you can have them in many color combos and I have played on them when they are good. But if the tiles are laid over a surface that is not level you get voids between the tiles and the surface underneath which lead to dead spots where the ball just doesn't bounce, not fun.
 
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Guest
rubber courts
basketball-type-flooring courts
carpet courts
 

joe sch

Legend
Sandy syn turf. Needed to get in some hits when staying at a resort in SW US and it was not much better than ice :)
 
Sandy syn turf. Needed to get in some hits when staying at a resort in SW US and it was not much better than ice :)
Those courts can be great especially in the rain, you can literally play on them through a rain storm and they only get better--the problem is when they put too much sand on top, then they can get very slippery until it's properly groomed, seen pros slipping and sliding when they're not right.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Last week, I was told our match was on carpet. I was excited to play on it since I am only used to hardcourt. Turna out this carpet is like playing on ice. The ball would skid like grass on steroids. We lost the match in straight sets. Im convinced we will have no problems beating them again on hard court.

Everything I have learned about tennis I threw out. My form was terrible, and my topspin sat up waiting to be smacked. Dead spots everywhere and these guys knew just how to serve so the ball would keep slicing away after it hit that carpet.

What is the worst court you have played on?

I was asked to play a tournament match on a court that looked worse than this one with LINES that you can't hardly see. It was impossible to see where the lines were on the other side and where exactly was the service box, I must have served like 5 % 1st serves in.

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Last week, I was told our match was on carpet. I was excited to play on it since I am only used to hardcourt. Turna out this carpet is like playing on ice. The ball would skid like grass on steroids. We lost the match in straight sets. Im convinced we will have no problems beating them again on hard court.

Everything I have learned about tennis I threw out. My form was terrible, and my topspin sat up waiting to be smacked. Dead spots everywhere and these guys knew just how to serve so the ball would keep slicing away after it hit that carpet.

What is the worst court you have played on?
I am originally from South Africa. When I was in juniors (early to mid 2000s) I started playing ITF tournaments. To get my foot in the door and get a ranking, I had to play Grade 4 and 5 level tournaments at first. The lowest of the low - at least at that time. One summer, I think in 2004, I played a tournament in Malawi on what was listed as "Clay Court" on the tournament's site. What it actually turned out to be was cow manure dried up and spread out over the court. Thinking back, the likelihood of injury was unbelievable. The court itself was uneven and full of little bumps and holes. To paint the lines, they used regular cooking flour. After about 10 minutes of play the lines were about 10 inches wide from all the wear and tear. Oh, and on the first day of the tournament when taking the shuttle from the hotel to the venue there was a dead body right outside our hotel.

I wish this was all a bad joke but sadly it's not. I couldn't wait to leave that place.
 

SavvyStringer

Professional
Local hard courts at a private club or hartru at state this year. The private club isn't the nice private club in town but is popular because everyone is laid back and has a good time. Most of their court maintenance goes to their Hartru not their hard courts. They have resurfaced them a couple times in the last few years but when they did it was patching the cracks and new paint. This means that there are random spots on the hard court that play like a ball hitting a line in clay. Theres no telling where it will go. They also have some weird bubbles from the courts settling at the edges where you could wreck your ankle. Basically you just concede that if an opponent hits a short angle going to the edge of the court it's not worth it to track it down. Hartru at state was an abomination by the time we played in the middle of the day this year. It was rutted and you couldn't get a consistent bounce at any of the 3 facilities we played at if it hit inside the service box. Not only do they not sweep them between matches, but they had moved the brushes off the court so that we couldn't do it quickly during our warmup.
 

kevrol

Hall of Fame
The private club isn't the nice private club in town but is popular because everyone is laid back and has a good time. Most of their court maintenance goes to their Hartru not their hard courts. They have resurfaced them a couple times in the last few years but when they did it was patching the cracks and new paint. This means that there are random spots on the hard court that play like a ball hitting a line in clay. Theres no telling where it will go. They also have some weird bubbles from the courts settling at the edges where you could wreck your ankle. Basically you just concede that if an opponent hits a short angle going to the edge of the court it's not worth it to track it down.
Sounds like my club.
 

lstewart

Semi-Pro
Grew up in a small town with 2 concrete courts that slopped sharply down on each end, and then had some loose gravel at the back behind the baseline. Chain-link metal nets that were C shaped. Local college had 3 courts that had grass and dirt behind the baseline going to the back fence. So you would run off the concrete, and into slick grass and dirt. All the small local towns had odd courts with various different quirks. One had a concrete wall from the gym right beside the doubles line. In college, taught tennis one summer at a camp that had the indoor fast rubber tartan gym floor surface that was popular in the 70's, and was crazy fast. Played a college match against a D-1 team in the later 70's on an actual wood court against some South American Davis Cup players. That was wild. Now grass is the hardest surface to play on that I ever deal with.
 
Now grass is the hardest surface to play on that I ever deal with.
Yah, grass can be the worst and the best, even Wimby after the second week is mostly dirt at the baseline. Since no one serves and volleys much anymore, the mid-court is still pretty good nowadays. Playing on grass can really develop your vision, with all the unusual bounces you really have to WATCH THE BALL. The desert has the best grass courts, because they're built on sand. Other places bounces vary with the gopher holes and garter snakes. Wimby is experimenting with weaving in some astro turf with the rye mix, kind of like a Bosley weave.
 

lstewart

Semi-Pro
Tom, I'm not a big fan of grass, but I had pretty good results in Sept at the national seniors in Michigan. We actually have two grass courts at our university, available for play at a fee. I worked out on them to prepare for nationals, and it helped alot. That said, I don't really care for practicing on them, as I feel the quality of tennis is not great. The courts are so fast, and the bounce is so low, that you almost can't hit ground strokes. Therefore the points are really short, and I don't get to hit that many balls. Fun for a workout, but not something I would want to play on all the time.
 

PBODY99

Legend
A HS got new courts. They were black asphalt which the contractor never sealed or rolled tightly. Also there was no provision for a center strap anchor.
Took several season to get it corrected.
 
I played on courts that had a wood surface (I think it was the Armory in NYC-- another place was at an old converted warehouse in NJ).
I also think I played on some kind of cork surface.
Also, fast indoor carpet.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Concrete mutlisport park courts. They get a little dust on them and either I am sliding and falling or the ball just skids along with no ground bite what-so-ever.
 

dgold44

G.O.A.T.
Last week, I was told our match was on carpet. I was excited to play on it since I am only used to hardcourt. Turna out this carpet is like playing on ice. The ball would skid like grass on steroids. We lost the match in straight sets. Im convinced we will have no problems beating them again on hard court.

Everything I have learned about tennis I threw out. My form was terrible, and my topspin sat up waiting to be smacked. Dead spots everywhere and these guys knew just how to serve so the ball would keep slicing away after it hit that carpet.

What is the worst court you have played on?

Grass
So difficult with super low skids that my level dropped to 3.5
 
There is a mixed charity tourney here where rich people let the the tourney use their backyard tennis courts. You play round 3 teams in round robin pro sets in the morning then switch and play at another rich persons home in the afternoon.

One backyard court was probably once a nice court behind a beautiful home, but it looked like the homeowners stored fallen leaves on the courts. When we showed up on a bright sunny morning the homes caretaker was shoveling off wet leaves. The court was so slippery and slime covered that you could not run and the ball would get a film after a few minutes.

We played the first year without complaint because we had never played the tourney and did not know better. The second year we refused to play when we were scheduled to the same courts. The tourney directors were embarrassed by our not wanting to play, apologized to the home owners and gave us all loses for those morning matches.

The tourney is now defunct for other reasons.


Wow. I don't even know what to say.

Is that how the 1% live? They all have tennis courts in their back yards, but the very idea of playing tennis is so boring that they let their personal court fall into disrepair? To me, that would be like my buying a designer sequined ball gown and then tossing it in the washing machine.

Neglecting your personal tennis court oughtta be a crime in all 50 states.
Agreed--the FBI moved in at 6 am arresting the family--dressed in full tactical gear--they are being interrogated at Gitmo' to reveal co-conspirators who have failed to maintain their private courts and allow alligators to shelter in their pools and hot-tubs--CNN will have full coverage from beginning to end--their children are in protective custody with social services. Their pool table, which was found to be out-of-level, was taken as evidence. Their will be a realtor's open house this weekend, and the stagers are cleaning the court--MS 13 has put a deposit towards a long-term lease on the property to be used as a community club-house.
 
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5sets

Hall of Fame
I played on indoor carpet once over 20 years ago in a high school match. It was rolled out over a basketball court and many ATP and WTA events used this surface in the 90s like Virginia Slims. I enjoyed it but if you YouTube ‘Mary Pierce ends her career’ you will see how dangerous it is.
Your foot can easily get ‘stuck’ as did in her case


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hray4clay

Rookie
I did a couple of years in a state pen in Maryland (don't ask) the court was concrete, and the fence was about three feet from the baseline, if you ran back to chase a lob you had to time it just right to hit the ball then crash into the fence. Other than that, the artificial grass courts in Ocean City, basically astro turf with sand added to it, hated those.
I played at those courts in Ocean City back in the 90s. They were atrocious!
 

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
Concrete court that looked as if it had gone thru a earthquake 100 years ago. Unlevel slabs of concrete with grass growing thru the cracks.
 
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