2012 ATP World Tour Finals: Roger FEDERER vs. Andy MURRAY
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tennis_pro
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Nope, not guaranteed.
If Del Potro wins today and Ferrer loses, Del Potro wins the group. Maybe guys from skysport assume that Ferrer will beat Tipsarevic.
If Del Potro wins today and Ferrer loses, Del Potro wins the group. Maybe guys from skysport assume that Ferrer will beat Tipsarevic.
Terenigma
G.O.A.T.
Can you blame them? If this is the matchup tho, id say murray in 2. I think murray is playing too good to let an average federer beat him.
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
Ferrer beating the Tipsy in the form he this week is 100 percent guarantee.
I would put some money on Ferrer.
Federer20042006
Banned
Federer's in absolutely horrid form. His backhand has never looked worse.
Murray in straights, assuming that's the match.
Murray in straights, assuming that's the match.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Who do you think Federer has a better chance of beating, guys? Is it Murray or Djokovic?
I'm on the fence with this one, Djokovic is a better match-up for Federer but he's in great form this tournament, Murray on the other hand is always tough for Federer in best-of-3-set matches on a hard court (Federer has won their last 2 meetings at the WTF in London, though).
I'm on the fence with this one, Djokovic is a better match-up for Federer but he's in great form this tournament, Murray on the other hand is always tough for Federer in best-of-3-set matches on a hard court (Federer has won their last 2 meetings at the WTF in London, though).
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
I'll go with Murray. I expect Murray to choke on MP....and inevitably lose the match in the end.
Djokovic just seems ruthless....if Federer can manage that one....I bet he won't have energy to beat Murray.
kalyan4fedever
Legend
Murra in 1 fed says enough is enough i cant play pushers no more[sic]
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Murray 6-3 6-2, he's not in the best of forms but is solid enough to beat a below-par Federer comfortably.
I mean, wait till Ferrer beats Tipsarevic, lolz.
In a Federer-Djokovic match-up I'd go with Djokovic 6-4 6-4.
I mean, wait till Ferrer beats Tipsarevic, lolz.
In a Federer-Djokovic match-up I'd go with Djokovic 6-4 6-4.
cc0509
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
You people are jinxing it. Too bad, I really wanted to see that Fed/Murray semi :evil:
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I think you're wrong. Ferrer has only had 1 match won so far (Delpo). If he loses to Tipsy, he will end up with 1 win/2 losses. And Delpo will have 2 wins/1 loss. Then it would be perfectly normal that Delpo would qualify over Ferrer. If Ferrer wins vs Tipsy, he will have one win in straights, one win in 3 and one loss in straights vs Delpo: one win in straights, one win in 3 BUT one loss IN 3. I agree with you, I hate the RR system but if you follow its logic, then it has to be Delpo over Ferrer.
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Hawkeye7
Professional
Ferrer has no chance to qualify at all though, even if he beats Tipsy in straight sets.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Yep, I amended my post explaining why it is normal (according to RR logic) that Delpo would qualify either way.
But Del Potro beat Federer. And Federer beat Ferrer. And they all have one loss.
If Ferrer beats Tipsarevic in straights, he'll be 4-3 in sets. Del Potro is at 5-3, Federer 5-2. They both have better records, so they both advance over Ferrer.
romeo8880
G.O.A.T.
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monfed
Guest
Fred should tank this one and prepare for Abu Dhabi.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Fed has one loss too and in a 3 way tie the sets and games matter , not the h2h.
wonder if ferrer will tank to punish fed Haha.
romeo8880
G.O.A.T.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Ferrer tanking. Fed will play Djoko. You'd better erase this thread now.
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NadalDramaQueen
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kalyan4fedever
Legend
hahahha new match up coming guys prepare for an awesome sunday Ferru gets his revenge lol
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
He should tank Abu Dhabi as well since Rafa will be playing.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
This is a lesson to never make threads before you're 100 % sure a match will happen
kalyan4fedever
Legend
Ico
Hall of Fame
Well, I was 100% sure. I was also 100% misguided and 100% wrong. It's not like I started this thread a week ago just so I could be first. C'est la vie.
romeo8880
G.O.A.T.
It's sad. They shouldn't let him play anymore if he throws this match. Disgusting stuff.
kalyan4fedever
Legend
No one tanks on purpose, also there is money on the line.
kishnabe
Talk Tennis Guru
underground
G.O.A.T.
bloody skysports presenters were getting themselves in a tangle with all the scenario's..
dont worry, just leave all the dead hard sums to tim henman, sue barker, & andrew castle..they know whats going on..or maybe not
All andrew castle got is praising Murray and dissing Federer, worse commentator i've seen and complete Murrraytard. I mean it's fine being a fan but you need to be neutral when commentating, no?
TheF1Bob
Banned
Both who? Federer, del Potro, and potentially Ferrer are all 2-1, so it goes to sets.
If only Ferrer and del Potro were 2-1, Ferrer would go through with the head-to-head advantage.
If Ferrer loses against Tipsarevic, then only Federer and del Potro will have gone 2-1, so del Potro advances first, Federer second, due to the head-to-head.
If there are three people tied, and the sets won tiebreaker doesn't decide, then it goes to games won.
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Goosehead
Legend
andrew castle is a bit vomit making, yes..and his incessent chatter and whining voice dont help either,
castle even tried to suggest to tim henman that federer might chuck the delpotro match to try and avoid murray in the semi
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