MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
These rackets intrigue me. What are some of the easiest mids to adjust to/ most forgiving? Which ones are your favorites?
Midsize racket users
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Migelowsky
Semi-Pro
I love the Dunlop Aerogel 4D 200,
check the review
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/D4D2/D4D2Review.html
check the review
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/D4D2/D4D2Review.html
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
That's not a mid.
darklore009
Hall of Fame
i say either the dunlop 100s or the fed 90s
sansaephanh
Professional
By word of mouth I've heard good this about Yonex 100s(isometric head), Wilson 90s(PWS), and Dunlop100s. I don't know what makes the d100s forgiving, but i've only known it by word of mouth
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
BLX ProStaff 90 and Prestige Classic 600 felt pretty easy to me. But I'm used to heavier rackets... Soooooooo...
Favorites would be a PS85 from Chicago or SV and the K90.
Favorites would be a PS85 from Chicago or SV and the K90.
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
The only mid I have ever used was the PS 90 BLX. I liked pretty much everything about it. Although, I didn't play a match with it. Since the spin window is still pretty big with these, do you really think it would be that hard to switch from a tweener? 100->90 really that hard? I can handle the weight
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
As for sw, I can handle up to about 335-340ish
roundiesee
Hall of Fame
You should get a pair then,
I don't think it is that difficult to play with compared to your tweener, especially if you can handle the weight. The sweetspot on the BLXPS90 isn't that small. Good luck!Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
It's hard if you let your mind believe so. Otherwise, there's nothing prohibitive about using a mid.
latershow
Rookie
I seem to find the sweetspot really consistently with Wilson 90's, the shape is just perfect for me. The Pacific 90 is glorious to play with when you are on your game but yes, they are not easy to play with at all. I found the Head Prestige Mid to be quite easy to get into a groove with, not as intuitive as the Wilson's, but much easier to adjust to than the Pacific. I would start with the Federer racket, cant go wrong with that one.
martini1
Hall of Fame
Don't expect to play it with pure top spin like some tweener sticks. You can get TS but for a mid you can also do some flat drives. Drop shots are also great with a mid.
The main draw back is the lack of emergency power when on defense. You will also need to perform the right posture on volleys and serves. Can't just take a big cut and hope the racket will bring the ball over deep. Other than these things mids are just as great. You will get tons of feel, plow thru, and control.
The main draw back is the lack of emergency power when on defense. You will also need to perform the right posture on volleys and serves. Can't just take a big cut and hope the racket will bring the ball over deep. Other than these things mids are just as great. You will get tons of feel, plow thru, and control.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Just swing at the ball, and watch it go. No big deal about it.
As long as you are strong enough to keep the racquet tip pointed up you are fine. (This shouldn't be a problem for anyone over age 12)
J
As long as you are strong enough to keep the racquet tip pointed up you are fine. (This shouldn't be a problem for anyone over age 12)
J
fuzz nation
G.O.A.T.
I've tried a few myself and it seemed that any of the mids that were good 'n hefty also had a decent degree of forgiveness. I haven't sampled any of the middle-weight Dunlop 100's, but a couple of my mids have weighed in at 13.0 oz. or even more (I have a couple of leaded up "trainers" that weigh 13.4 oz.).
Yonex racquets seem to have an inherently wider sweet-spot and some players here who have used their mids have offered that those frames play more like a traditional (oval shaped) mid-plus. I've only used their older MP Tour-1 mid, but the sweet-spot on that racquet definitely wasn't elusive for me.
A few years back, I happened upon a Prince NXG mid and found a very good "fit" with that racquet. The weight, balance, and extra flex made for a recipe that clicked with me right out of the box. Despite the smaller head size, it was much easier for me to put the ball in the heart of the string bed with that racquet than just about any other 95"-100" frame I had used. No mystery - that's why we demo, right? We know a good fit when we feel it.
One thing that can chase the forgiveness out of a mid in a hurry (for me) is the wrong string tension. I'm usually much more aware of a harsh or dead string bed in a mid when I string it a little too snug than with maybe a 98" hoop. Just something to keep in mind if you get to trying different mids.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
Excellent point Fuzz. Mids are fickle *****es when it comes to string type and tension.
J
J
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
Just curious, but why did everyone here start using a mid/when? And which Wilson mid is the easiest/ best in your opinion?
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MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
Thank you for your insight...and it also seems that the aerodynamics of a mid make it just about as fast as a lower sw midplus.
A reason why I want a mid is because I get very lazy with my preparation with a 11oz tweener. I am fairly strong, so I can be lazy. I think I possess fairly good technique and believe that using a mid will just force me to play my best. Not to mention, the sublime precision and control of a mid.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Mentor/coach had a deal with Head and was able to get his students a discount on Head racquets, so I got a pair of rubber-paint 1st gen i.Prestige Mid.
Didn't know anything about midsize/midplus or what not. And as a young kid, I just played freely so headsize really didn't matter to me, nor did I look into it. Over time, anything bigger than a 90 felt enormous to me.
The 85 is probably the easiest "Wilson mid" to use, because of its low swingweight despite its weight. Trust me, once you get it moving, it doesn't feel heavy at all. And don't let people scare you off with "small sweetspot" nonsense. To those people, I say to them:
Get your timing right.
Larrysümmers
Hall of Fame
A mid isn't going to stop you from being lazy any more than a mid plus or oversize. If you're lazy then you're going to leave balls short, and going to sail balls when your technique is just off.
I can relate to you, do your self a favor and get another pro open and stay off the forums for a while. You are over thinking this process when we both know you justwant a shiner new racket.
I can relate to you, do your self a favor and get another pro open and stay off the forums for a while. You are over thinking this process when we both know you justwant a shiner new racket.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Come now, you know you can't say those words. The game is all about rocking the latest gear. The player doesn't miss a shot, it's the equipment that led to the error or failed tactic. You'd be a fool if you take the time to practice.
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
Hahahaha. Well is that totally a bad thing?
should I just add weight to my pro open then? I don't like the light weight. Love everything else though
anirut
Legend
How about grabbing a couple of old school, conventional head woodies to hit for a week or two for 2-3 hours everyday? This will certainly make any racket easy to play, save the really big granny oversize ones. And will really keep your techniques "well-disciplined". You can also use it as a trainer racket once a week or so, too.
And, this way, you're not falling to the nice new shiny racket temptation too. :lol:
And, this way, you're not falling to the nice new shiny racket temptation too. :lol:
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
I like your thinking...HOWEVER...I only have one usable racket at the moment, and that's my pro open. It currently is unstrung ever since I broke my strings. I need at least one more racket. So I'm not just buying a new racket for the hell of it.
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
I don't believe in this crap at all unless I'm using a Walmart racket or a 115 or bigger
Fuji
Legend
Lets put it this way Mike:
Because of your recent musings on mids, I decided to take my PS90 out for a hit. I played 2 sets against someone I normally take to the cleaners.
The first set I won 6-1 with my normal BLX Blade. Serving went well, game play was nice.
The second set, I won 7-6 in a tie break with the PS90. It didn't offer me the same level of confidence as my Blades do. This is totally on me, but it reinforces the fact that for me at least, mids aren't optimal. Sure I had an absolute blast playing with it serving bombs and hitting sweet volleys, but it doesn't match up to my game well.
For you, mids might match extremely well. I believe we're around the same level within +/- .5 so it's not a bad time to really make a choice to stick with in the long haul.
Grab another Pro Open and a reel of lead tape. I assure you that lead opens up an entire new world of rackets. I've modded almost every single racket I've owned and it makes for a great way to get that shiny new racket feeling way more often. :razz:
-Fuji
Because of your recent musings on mids, I decided to take my PS90 out for a hit. I played 2 sets against someone I normally take to the cleaners.
The first set I won 6-1 with my normal BLX Blade. Serving went well, game play was nice.
The second set, I won 7-6 in a tie break with the PS90. It didn't offer me the same level of confidence as my Blades do. This is totally on me, but it reinforces the fact that for me at least, mids aren't optimal. Sure I had an absolute blast playing with it serving bombs and hitting sweet volleys, but it doesn't match up to my game well.
For you, mids might match extremely well. I believe we're around the same level within +/- .5 so it's not a bad time to really make a choice to stick with in the long haul.
Grab another Pro Open and a reel of lead tape. I assure you that lead opens up an entire new world of rackets. I've modded almost every single racket I've owned and it makes for a great way to get that shiny new racket feeling way more often. :razz:
-Fuji
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
Hmm alright. You make a valid point.
If I add enough weight to my pro open to make it 12oz or so will it give it too much power? I would only add a little to the head and a ton to the grip. Also, my pro opens probably wont match up in weight since I don't have a scale
If I add enough weight to my pro open to make it 12oz or so will it give it too much power? I would only add a little to the head and a ton to the grip. Also, my pro opens probably wont match up in weight since I don't have a scale
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Not if you put it in the handle.
Lead tape doesn't give you all that power, it gives you stability instead.
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
Ok, so after I pull off the base grip, how do I put it back on?
I am going to assume that the SW of my racket is 315 because it was just a little lower than a radical ig mp that I demoed, and that's supposed to have 320. So...I would like to have the SW at 325. How much lead do I put? 10 grams?
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Why are you trying to add weight to your frame? I assure you, lead tape and equipment play a minimum role in improving your game. And there's no point to add lead just to say you've got a modified racquet.
As for the grip, you can just re-wrap it as if you were putting on a replacement/overgrip. If it's stapled, then that's even easier, because you don't have to remove the whole grip. Just leave it dangling when you're applying the lead, and then wrap it up again.
As for the swingweight, if I can tell you exactly how much to add, then that means I have a Ph.D in physics, which I do not have. Add until you feel comfortable with the racquet.
Lastly, you should know that the "feel" of swingweight is not universal among all racquets. As in, a SW of 320 in your BLX Pro Open is going to feel different than a Radical with the SW of 320.
If you're going to modify your racquet, don't modify by the numbers, modify by feel.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Of all the racquets I've ever tried in stock form over the years, the O3 Tour mid stands out as the best all-around performer for me.
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
I want to add lead because I like a heavier feeling racket.
Since I don't play competitive tennis, I just started using mids for bragging rights. It really hasn't made a difference in my play, the maneuverability helped my one hand backhand doe -also used because it looks cooler. I'm so cool one hander and mid head, I'm just like federer :twisted:
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
If you want your racquets to be heavier, but like the stock balance, put lead at 6 o'clock/throat. Do know that wherever you apply the lead tape, the sweetspot will gravitate in that direction.
sansaephanh
Professional
Honestly I started playing with all sorts of 90s. Ceramics, graphites, carbons, etc. I gotta say the best mid i ever played with was a pure white ceramic wilson with red lettering. It just said wilson ceramic. The only reason i switched was because I didn't know wtf i was doing lol. and my 2hbh on a mid didnt shine. Now that I hit a 1hbh, i might look for it again... lol
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MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
I really would just like more precision in my game. I don't know how to hit very precise shots from the baseline at the moment, because right now I have to string my racket tight in order to get the level of power that I want out of it and I can't hit a shot with that pinpoint precision that so many other people rave about. Plus I want a heftier racket, which is why I came to the conclusion that a mid or a low powered, hefty MP would be good for me. I don't hit with a ton of topspin, but an average amount and I have a middle-of -the-road FH. Its between modern and classic style. I know that I am just not going to be happy with my decision if I stick with this frame. So, I would like your opinion on that. Thank you.
HEADfamilydynasty
Rookie
Sounds like you play similar to me
. \I got into mid 2 years ago after i hit with my coaches N90 and my friends BLX90. The plow and the feel of a mid reeled me in. Ever since i've only played with mids. currently i use the Diablo tour mid which reminds me of those very racket but with better feel and forgiveness.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
If you want a heavy frame, then go and get a heavy frame.
But if you want more precision, sorry, you're just going to have to hit a lot of balls and practice. Gamma Big Bubba will be just as precise in the hands of a good player.
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
Seriously?.....
And not only would I like more precision, but I think I like the feel of a mid and how it cuts through the air. I might just order a couple and practice my little heart out.
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MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
Sounds like you play similar to me
I got into mid 2 years ago after i hit with my coaches N90 and my friends BLX90. The plow and the feel of a mid reeled me in. Ever since i've only played with mids. currently i use the Diablo tour mid which reminds me of those very racket but with better feel and forgiveness.
how would you describe the feel of the diablo compared to other rackets? I have been told that it has a large sweetspot.
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
There you go man. Before you know it, you'll have people telling you to stop using mids because the game has "evolved past mids".
Then you hit a passing shot and put away volleys like they're nothing. Turn around and: "say what now?"
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
HAHAHA this is actually another reason why I want to use one. Blast some awesome passing shots and hit drop shots like no other
I wonder when the PS 90 will ever go on sale...should I buy a TW gift card? how do those work?
MikeHitsHard93
Hall of Fame
It might be time to start demoing again...that Blade Mid looks pretty sick and got some awesome reviews...
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
HAHAHA this is actually another reason why I want to use one. Blast some awesome passing shots and hit drop shots like no other
Once in a while they go on sale for $180. But don't use it just to shut people up if it ends up hurting your game. Tennis racquets are more than just numbers and specs, you really have to go by what feels natural in your hands.
