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I've never heard if a PT 280 with 300 SW strung... How is that even possible?Pro tour 280, 337gr, sw 300, balance 31.5, flex 55, vs team 49lbs, alu power 47lbs..
I've never heard if a PT 280 with 300 SW strung... How is that even possible?Pro tour 280, 337gr, sw 300, balance 31.5, flex 55, vs team 49lbs, alu power 47lbs..
I've never heard if a PT 280 with 300 SW strung... How is that even possible?
All Pro Tour 630 with Designed in Austria were manufactured in Austria. Same Layup.Are there different euro pro tours "designed in austria"?
the lay out is different?
Someone knows?
Thanks.
The marketing material had Emilio Sanchez and Thomas Muster helping to develop the Pro Tour 630/280. Muster personal frames were stiffer. The original Radical Tour 260/630 was stiffer as well than the Pro Tour 280/630. Both coming from the same exact mould.@vsbabolat
I've read somewhere that Pro Tour 630 was designed with help mainly from Muster, but I've also read else where that Muster's own personal frames, while with the same mold, is quite a bit stiffer. Does this mean that he knew already the game gear is supposed to be going to a stiffer racquet trend? Perhaps RA60~61 is the lower limit?
do you know about S.E.1 and S.E.2 framesThe marketing material had Emilio Sanchez and Thomas Muster helping to develop the Pro Tour 630/280. Muster personal frames were stiffer. The original Radical Tour 260/630 was stiffer as well than the Pro Tour 280/630. Both coming from the same exact mould.
The marketing material had Emilio Sanchez and Thomas Muster helping to develop the Pro Tour 630/280. Muster personal frames were stiffer. The original Radical Tour 260/630 was stiffer as well than the Pro Tour 280/630. Both coming from the same exact mould.
do you know about S.E.1 and S.E.2 frames
VS, you talk about Musters personal frame being stiffer. i´ve recently come across a pt630 with s.e.1 printed on it. there also seems to be an s.e.2 version.
do you know more about that?
thanks
Finally got my 280 all ready. All set and done it sits at 374g w/ caps, og, dampener, and a fairway
s.e.3 is real news to me. the s.e.1 seems to play like a normal pt630, only at 13,2 oz strung it´s certainly heavier than normalThey are all pt57 molds, I think the s.e.2 is a pt57c, a rare one, I think it is also stiffer, like 66ra... There is even a s.e.3... all same molds different layups...
s.e.3 is real news to me. the s.e.1 seems to play like a normal pt630, only at 13,2 oz strung it´s certainly heavier than normal
All these versions are news to me also, I only got into the pt630 and 280's this year, and have not looked back. In my quest for them i found loads of info about the different ones, thanks to some veterans such as Vs and Dr325..
here's an older thread with s.e.3
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/ti-radical-question.353002/
I have the pt57a in Se 3 to radical paint. Plays unbelievably soft
i got them on that auction site.Where'd you score those bad boys?
i got them on that auction site.
Nice...
How did they have them listed on there, or I guess I should say what search query did you use
I might be interested in picking one up, depending.
Just use Microgel/YT Prestige MP grommets.Where would one acquire a PT630 CAP? Haven't had much luck on stringfrm
Hi all,
i'm acquiring an Head Tour 280,
i searched the web but i only find the Head Tour Pro 280, nothing about a Head Tour 280 only.
On the image of the racquet there are three labels: On the borders below: Tour series (left) and Contact Beam (right) and on top in the middle: 630, it seems like on the Head pro tour 280.
It is full cap and the color seems gray.
First question is:
I keep it full cap or only grommet and which one ?
Second question is:
Someone know something about it, or can tell me a way to verify if it is a Head Pro Tour 280 ? If it is a chinese one or maden in Austria ? Is there a lot of difference from chinese maden ? Which one ?
I'm a novice, i play 2 or 3 times for week (about 3h each time in double, 1h to warm-up, then games) i can serve, can use forehand and backhand (one hand) but i'm a novice (after 25 year i started again tennis now i'm 45).
I like slices and topspins (also if i'm beginning with forehand topspin now), i don't mind much about speed, i like and would like to have precision, actually i'm playing with a friend's racquet Head Competition 660 and i love it because i know where the ball will go after i touched it.
So reading about the 630/280 that would be the same, i choose to buy a 280.
So now the Third question:
for my playstyle which of these strings would i use on main and cross ? and which tension on them ?
If possible they would last for some months or more, i can choose only from this list:
Head Rip Control multifilament 1,20mm 18g
Babolat Magic Force (maybe multifilament, it say double filament) 1,35mm 15L (22kg-48lbs/30kg-66lbs)
Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm 17g (22kg-48lbs/28kg-62lbs)
Babolat Pro Hurricane Tour + Excel hybrid, side Pro Hurrican Tour 1,25mm 17g (max tension 28kb-62lbs) or 1,30mm 16g (max tension 30kg-66lbs) side Excel 1,30mm 16g (max tension 30kg-66lbs)
Babolat RPM Blast monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm 17g (22kg-48lbs/28kg-62lbs)
Tecnifibre ATP HDX Tour (suppose multifilament) 1,35mm 15L (no tension indicated)
Tecnifibre Black Code monofilament (polyester flex) 1,24mm 17g (no tension indicated)
Tecnifibre Duramix multifilament 1,35mm 15L (no tension indicated)
Tecnifibre TGV multifilament 1,25mm 17g (no tension indicated)
Tecnifibre XR3 multifilament 1,30mm 16g (no tension indicated)
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase multifilament 1,24mm 17g (no tension indicated)
Wilson Luxilon Adrenaline monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm (no grams no tension indicated)
Wilson Luxilon Allu Power (color gray) monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm (no grams no tension indicated)
Wilson Sensation multifilament 1,30mm 15L (no tension indicated)
All the strings are 12meters in total, i'm asking how many meters are needed for a raquet usually.
I don't mind if use one string for main and cross or use two different strings, import is confort, precision, slices and topspins.
Thanks for any advice
mavtop
Posting pics will help identify your racquet easier. Natural gut with a smooth poly works well in these frames. I also feel heavier old school frames work well with synthetic gut. You aren't going to get the same topspin that you will in some modern frames, unless your technique allows you to
Cap grommets are classy, but they also add about 10grams of weight taking your pt280 to 350gr mark or more.
Chinese pt280's play stiffer,some like them some don't, personal preference. You can't go wrong with Austria!
The China pt280 should have a made in China printed in throat or even butcap if I recall. Does your racquet have "designed in Austria" written on the side ?
And also "head barcode label inside" written on frame?
I will see the racquet on saturday, so only then i will know if it is maden in Austria or a chinese one, for now i have only an image, where i only see the racquet flat, so i can read only head below the grip, costant beam, tour series and 630 all written on the frame.
I will ask for more photos, then i will post them, i hope to receive them before Saturday
Do you have any hints on the strings ? Which to use, repeat for now i'm novice, but i love slices, topspins and control the ball (i can do it easily with an Head Competition 660 i tried)
How i upload images here ? It tell me uploads are not permitted ...
Maybe i discovered how to do
this is the image i have
Can someone confirm or not that it is an Head Tour Pro 280 ?
Thanks in advance
mavtop
it has full caps from the image, i read here that a lot don't want them, but just normal grommet on the top of the racquet, is there a way ?
Balance is 32cm on this racquet right ?
is there a GUT string in the list below ? if yes which one ? which tension would be using ?
For the Alu powe in crosses you mean Wilson Luxilon Allu Power (color gray) monofilament (polyester) 1,25mm which tension ?
If it's the 630 head size, you can fit a few different grommets which will make it lighter in the head. Head microgel radical mp grommets (really cheap price) fit easy, Ti radical mp, i.radical, plenty that will fit as long as it is 630 size head.
I do not know the unstrung balance of that racquet, once you get more pics and identify it it will be easier to search... but it sounds close.
Natural gut try Babolat VS touch 1.30/16g in the mains
Smooth poly (co-polyster) in the crosses try LUXILON ALU POWER 16/1.25
these two strings are available just about everywhere, if it's too pricey experiment with just poly, it's about what you like.
I usually string mains at 51 or 53, and crosses 1-2 pounds lower so 51/49 or 53/51
I have never seen one of those before!!!! Tour 280!!! That's NOT China because of the HEAD Barcode Label Inside is written on the racquet. It was manufactured in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic.Ok i got more photos of the racquet,
here they are:
now you can tell me if it's a Tour Pro 280 or not ?
I suppose is it a Chinese one ? right ?
Do you think is a right price for 20$ ?
Thanks in advance
mavtop
I have never seen one of those before!!!! Tour 280!!! That's NOT China because of the HEAD Barcode Label Inside is written on the racquet. It was manufactured in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic.
Ok if it is not chinese, a bad racquet would not being.
But i would like to know if it has similar specs of the 280.
I will wait for others' answers about it
I think you may have a special limited edition release there. It is an Austrian for sure as VS said, which Is why I asked does it have head bar code label.
Can you measure the weight? swing weight and flex?
40ft (12metres) will be enough for a whole racquet with the same string. If you use it in a hybrid mixture you will still have a half to use.
Polyester only lasts 8-12hours, gut/poly can last up to 30hours in my opinion. Some poly can last 20hrs. It's up to you start which something cheap and find out what you like. Have a read here on poly hybrids.
Mavtop, that grip is fine if you like synthetic grips, it is popular and feels nice. If you need any information on grips here is the right page where you can look at all grips including overgrips for sizing and other information.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...pecs-weight-thickness-into-one-thread.465717/
For information on natural gut / poly this thread is good
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/the-gut-poly-thread.521459/
You play a lot, so yeah you will change poly regularly, maybe 10hours or so. It all depends how much it affects your game.
You don't need much for vibrations, these racquets are solid frames, if you want you could use a rubber band like Agassi.
For me personally it is cheaper to have natural gut / poly which I can get 30+ hours ! I actually save money in the long run.
Best
Yes for now i play a lot but repeat i'm a novice, so i don't know if i can stress the strings like you, advanced users, for now most of my shots are flat, some slices (that i love) and some topspin (i'm learning it), but i play 3-3,5h each time, when possible 3 days/week if i can find an opponent or a team of opponents (for doubles) else 2 days/week for sure if weather permit.
Usually 1h of training (no teacher) just sending the ball on the other side, trying serves, topspins and slices, then up to we can run (usually i walk lately) with matches (usually 2-2,5h) in doubles.
We are 8 coworkers, and we started again after 20-25 years of no tennis, so you can imagine the level, at the beginning was just hard to send the ball on the other side.
But now we can play a lot better, serving (mainly flat and some sliced, but not so hard or fast), slicing (for me my best shot), some tops (i need to learn and improve), smashes (i need to improve), volleys (my best 2nd shot, but need to improve).
Obviously the ball lot of time is high (an advanced player could get the point each time), but i'm learning to keep it low especially using the topspin or the slice.
The level of players is almost the same, who more who less, but we get a lot of fun, teasing each team.
We recorded each match with a chinese GO-PRO and some training too, we keep track of each match, points and almost all.
I never known about strings in general, when i was young and played tennis i had a wood racquet and never changed strings, i always thought they have to change only when broken, i played for 2-3 years with the same racquet with the same strings, but also at that time i was a novice, also if i played a church's tournament and got 2nd, but i was really young, i remember a great forehand, while now i prefer to put the ball where i want also slowly but perfectly.
Then i played sometimes later, but then i changed sport, a lot of sports and then stopped to play everything, so my weight grow.
Now i'm back, i wanted to lose some weight and we decided to play tennis again.
I really like tennis specially in doubles, i found a coworker that is ok for me, he runs and i keep close to the net i'm joking but actually is so.
After 2 days of playing i stretched a calf very hard, i barely can walking for first days, so i was stopped for 10 days (luckily the weather didn't permit to play others ), but i suppose i needed more time, so i played again after 10 days and again a little stretch at the same calf. So after that i played walking only in the court.
Now i hope/think to have my calf back at the normal stage, it seems right now, today i will play again, but i will not run still, just walking fast or very fast i don't want to stay stopped, so i will begin slowly (it's hard in tennis i know, specially in matches, but i learnt to leave the ball if i can't reach in my situation).
I will use again an Head Competition Tour 660 of a friend, that i feel really good for my playstyle, i don't know if my racquet will be ready today, still no sms from strunger else i could test it.
I suppose i will have to wait wednesday to try it.
I will follow the treads you linked, i found a website that send a lot of the strings you use here.
Thanks all for your help
mavtop
Time is passed and all change, cars, computer, mobile phone, so also tennis, racquet, strings and also we changedThe game has changed a lot, polyester strings are behind one of those reasons. Back in the day we had gut, nylon, kevlar. Now it is so much easier with polyester strings and bigger, lighter, stiffer racquets. We have all been guilty of trying the 'new stuff'. These head racquets are classics, and still used by pro's on tour !
Play with what you like, and enjoy your tennis. There is plenty of great thread information on here, but as a wise man once said, the more you spend time reading on talk tennis the worse your game gets hahah
We are all amateurs here, maybe the odd semi-pro here and there
Let us know how your rare tour 280 plays!