tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
I never cared about the hype. I hate it when people like Carreno-Busta win anything. They represent everything that I hate in a tennis player. Bland in every single way.
2017 USO R4 - [12] Pablo Carreño Busta (ESP) vs. [Q] Denis Shapovalov (CAN)
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skip1969
G.O.A.T.
Cool story, bro. Good luck with that. And with the all caps.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
I respect the guy for maximizing his potential, but holy crap, he's actually favoured to make the USO final by seeding.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
i don't get the butthurt
PCB played his cards right and won
who's fault is it shapovalov wasn't able to beat the "boring grinder"?
is PCB supposed to roll over and die because the local hotshot is playing?
TT is vile and disgusting sometimes
PCB played his cards right and won
who's fault is it shapovalov wasn't able to beat the "boring grinder"?
is PCB supposed to roll over and die because the local hotshot is playing?
TT is vile and disgusting sometimes
DRII
G.O.A.T.
shows what certain posters prioritize
fedtennisphan
Hall of Fame
Really? Too numerous to name.
FudgeMyn
Professional
I mean its boring. but if you wanna win matches its the smartest way to play. its not easy to pull off either.
Talker
Hall of Fame
You got it. Busta was too consistent and Shapo off too much.
Shapo was in the wrong places at the net and made some easy errors there.
He's only 18 and playing much better players than he has been. I'm sure he'll learn quickly.
He learned a lot the past month, it takes time to digest it all.
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mellowyellow
Legend
Ohh, and just FYI, it isn't about me being right, even what I said could be wrong in part. You were completely wrong. Busta doesn't win that match using your approved method of mental match preparation. Much more goes into it than that. As much distaste I have for players like him. They work their ass off and prepare for struggles like today. You completely overshadow the fact with supposed superiority guys like Murray, Djoko, Nadal, Fed rarely show signs of.
Omega_7000
Legend
Was a close match in spite of straight sets. He had a ton of chances...Hope he learns from this and keeps growing. Very exciting prospect for the game.
maxrenn
Legend
He lost in 3 tiebreak sets in the last 16 of a Grand Slam tournament at 18 years old, what was your major achievement at 18? Mine was being able to smoke a sh*t ton of bud and heel flip off a set of 8 stairs.
duaneeo
Legend
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Thanks again, Murray.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think anybody with 2 working eyes disputes any of that. Many of us are just disappointed (obviously some can hold their bias better than others).
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
somewhere in scotland, The Don celebrates tonight
Serve&Bash
Semi-Pro
No doubt. What he has done this past 3 weeks is amazing. He is only gonna get better. I'm just saying he was outplayed on the bigger points today.
The guy is an amazing talent.
PCB is genuinely a great athlete with a steady offensive baseline game. People underestimate him because he doesn't hit through the legs or argues with umpires. Funny how people complain about players clowning around or smashing rackets but when someone doesn't do it, he's considered boring and untalented
skip1969
G.O.A.T.
Seriously. The better player on the day won. Any neutral can see that. Denis served 60%. He was 3/13 on break points. 54/55 winners to unforced, which (and anyone who knows tennis knows this) is not good enough if you are the aggressive player out to smack winners to get the win. That ratio isn't good enough.
I mean, everything you need to know is right there on the stat line. I understand players like Nadal, Fed, Djoko having fans with blinders on, who can't see the truth because they're too busy idolizing . . . but Shapovalov is not even in their stratosphere. So the bitterness seems a bit much.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Why always so bitter? Being excited is a lot more fun.[/QUOTE][QUw OTE="DRII, post: 11579101, member: 51892"]
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i'm not bitter, i think Shaps has plenty of potential, but the way some have hyped him this USO is beyond ridiculous!
and now they know it...
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
This is very true.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
nah, he has way more weapons than Pouille could even dream of...Shaps has a LONG way to go; a watered down Pouille at this point.
Fedberg20
Semi-Pro
Shapo is going to have nightmares about this one till the Australian Open. Had he won the 1st set, he probably takes the match.
However, lesson learned (hopefully). He'll need to come up with a better gameplan against pushers because he is bound to run into quite a few in his career.
However, lesson learned (hopefully). He'll need to come up with a better gameplan against pushers because he is bound to run into quite a few in his career.
PeteD
Legend
Spaniard won't speak English -- it's beneath them. Ever notice how beautifully Muguruza speaks? She's Venezuelan.PCB clearly been working on his tennis more than his English.
Gytha
Legend
Shaps has a LONG way to go; a watered down Pouille at this point.
Meles pass me what you're smoking because it's the good ****.
Serve&Bash
Semi-Pro
I could be totally off, but he reminds me a bit of Simon (obviously in better days). He has incredible movement, steady strokes and those scrawny legs lol.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
Ironically, PCB has defeated the over-hyped Dimi, Rao and Shapo in Majors.
not gonna lie, was pretty effing mad at busta during RG for straight setting grigolo
he's good i'll give him that
people are just mad that he doesn't play like fed/nadal and still beats good players
SeeingDusk
Hall of Fame
Very true. He's done well and hopefully will be a big player in the near future. Regret not pounding on PCB to take the sets when he was down. Would've either won a lot or would've lost but my chances of winning 40k would've been that much closer. No losing situation there. Too bad only bet on PCB ML when he was up two sets. Only got 60 bucks from that.
gogo
Legend
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i'm not bitter, i think Shaps has plenty of potential, but the way some have hyped him this USO is beyond ridiculous!
and now they know it...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I was typing on a really small screen. (sheesh to me.
)Yes, some people over-hyped, and, in particular a few were taking it to inappropriately negative levels against his opponents, but the vast majority were just enjoying the ride and excited that an 18 year old of this talent has shown up on the scene. Nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with hope and excitement.
ojo rojo
Legend
Shaps has a LONG way to go; a watered down Pouille at this point.
Watered down Pou?
Don't bring Sewretchs into this
DarlesChickens
Semi-Pro
They all know it, Shaps is the best thing that has happened to tennis in a long time. They all sense it. Shaps I am cheering you on the rest of your career. Stay strong, humble, hungry, focused...Immortality is waiting. Take it, it's yours!
The most important thing that the Denis did today was to bring the TT forum together.
Farewell brothers and sisters. It was nice knowing you. lol
Meles
Bionic Poster
Just the stats.
Shaps has the heart, but a long, long way to go in the stats department.SeeingDusk
Hall of Fame
Bland but it's the style of play that generates the most consistent results. Flashy type players aren't usually consistent only the top ones are. But for guys like PCB, you can be consistent even if you aren't a top guy in your style of play.
Talker
Hall of Fame
learn to quote...
i'm not bitter, i think Shaps has plenty of potential, but the way some have hyped him this USO is beyond ridiculous!
and now they know it...[/QUOTE]
Shaps is playing a new class of players now that have years of experience and have proven themselves, not the challenger types.
He has done amazing well on the main tour for his experience and age, that's where the hype comes from.
No one was expecting a title here.
So settle down and let us have our fun. LOL
PeteD
Legend
At the same time? That's a pretty good achievement.
Gytha
Legend
Just the stats.
Heart comes first. The ability to try 100% until the very last point. The stats will come later
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
I hope you are joking
SeeingDusk
Hall of Fame
He still believed despite being two sets to love down. Was positive and still pumping himself up. Early signs of a champion.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
i cannot get over the fact that he lost in 3 tbs after being a break up in s1 and 3 and having 3 sps in s1. what is with the people i like failing to close it out...perhaps a sign he is indeed destined for greatness?
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