2019 Wimbledon R2: RAFA vs Kyrgoat

[Rina]

Really? Any goat word has no place next or in Nick the Ds name. Insult to tennis and to his opponent.

 

[I Am Finnish]

@tennis_pro How much will you bet on kyrgios?

 

[wang07]

I'll be going against the grain and say Nick in 3.
He might not be in a great form or totally fine physically, but somehow he always appears to play his best when it comes to any of the Big3(especially against Rafa he gets pumped up the most, IMO)

Now, all he has to do is serve well. It's not likely he's losing tiebreakers against Rafa(5/5 if i remember correctly), and hope for a few break opportunities each set. If it's not coming, there's the tiebreak which he will likely take.

So if he has an above average serving day and plays just near his average level overall, he already has chances for winning, and if he has something extra(which is also likely since the opponent is Nadal), this could be a 7-6 7-6 6-4. I might be wrong but this is what I feel. His physical problems might take him down, too, but he can get it done for sure.

 

[Rina]

As much as i hate this, Krygios will be super motivated - this will be like his final. The animosity with Rafa will add intensity tohisgame. The obvious advantages grass gives to his game, he'll just serve big and hit big to win enough points. I want Rafa to win but feel Nick will win in 3 sets with two tie breakers.

Any animosity with Rafa is of his own making, and all in Nick's very sick head. Nadal doesn't give a fig or a thought to him.

 

[Rina]

I'll be going against the grain and say Nick in 3.
He might not be in a great form or totally fine physically, but somehow he always appears to play his best when it comes to any of the Big3(especially against Rafa he gets pumped up the most, IMO)

Now, all he has to do is serve well. It's not likely he's losing tiebreakers against Rafa(5/5 if i remember correctly), and hope for a few break opportunities each set. If it's not coming, there's the tiebreak which he will likely take.

So if he has an above average serving day and plays just near his average level overall, he already has chances for winning, and if he has something extra(which is also likely since the opponent is Nadal), this could be a 7-6 7-6 6-4. I might be wrong but this is what I feel. His physical problems might take him down, too, but he can get it done for sure.

Not sure what pumping you are talking about? Nick is most irritated by intimidate objects and he thinks even the chair or a water bottle looked at him wrong. Shia Labeouf of tennis.

 

[tennis_pro]

@tennis_pro How much will you bet on kyrgios?

Half a pound of potatoes and 2 crayons

 

[Rina]

Nick spends too much time trying to get his beard shaved just right, with the small ups and down and misses the match.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Nadal will win something like 6-4 6-7 6-7 6-3 4-1 ret.

 

[tennis_pro]

I'll be going against the grain and say Nick in 3.
He might not be in a great form or totally fine physically, but somehow he always appears to play his best when it comes to any of the Big3(especially against Rafa he gets pumped up the most, IMO)

Now, all he has to do is serve well. It's not likely he's losing tiebreakers against Rafa(5/5 if i remember correctly), and hope for a few break opportunities each set. If it's not coming, there's the tiebreak which he will likely take.

So if he has an above average serving day and plays just near his average level overall, he already has chances for winning, and if he has something extra(which is also likely since the opponent is Nadal), this could be a 7-6 7-6 6-4. I might be wrong but this is what I feel. His physical problems might take him down, too, but he can get it done for sure.

Kyrgios in 3 is a good analysis.

 

[lud]

Nadal in 4.
But, I wouldn't be surprised if Nick pull off upset.
Stats is on his side. He beat Nadal in Wimbledon before,he won last match, he lead h2h(outside of clay) and finally he is in Rafa's head like almost no player before.

 

[TennisFan3]

Kygrios in 4 sets. 6-3, 7-6, 5-7, 6-2 if he serves average. Kygrios in 3 sets: 6-3, 7-6, 6-4 - if he serves well.

Nadal just isn't returning at a level to be able to be toe to toe with the Kygrios serve. So Rafa will get NO LOOKS on Kygrios serve. That will put pressure on Nadal's own serve and he might get broken more often than not. In a TB as well, Nadal would get down earlier.

Rafa would have had an edge on hardcourt or in week 2 of Wimbledon. But at this time, given his form, I'd be very surprised if Nadal actually wins this.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

The temp is a bit higher than their last match. It's warming up a bit for Nadal unfortunately. On the other hand, the grass will be a bit fresher. 2R instead of 4R.

 

[Lebsta]

Any animosity with Rafa is of his own making, and all in Nick's very sick head. Nadal doesn't give a fig or a thought to him.

He's goign to thinking about him a lot on Thursday which is the big concern

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

Rafa in straight sets.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Vamos Rafa

 

[Djokovic2011]

Wipe him off the fkn court Rafa.

 

[Joseph_K]

That's a matter of opinion. Kyrgios certainly derserves to be punished for tanking in the fourth set of his match today against Jordan Thompson. Behaviour like that isn't good for the sport.

Nick will never get banned, because he's good for the sport.

 

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[EloQuent]

That's a matter of opinion. Kyrgios certainly derserves to be punished for tanking in the fourth set of his match today against Jordan Thompson. Behaviour like that isn't good for the sport.

No no no you see he is definitely good for the sport.

All of the journalists say so and have they ever been wrong?

 

[Rogfan]

This will certainly be a centre count match. Nick is not going to clown on CC. He will use all sort of tricks to frustrate Nadal. I’m gonna go with Nick in 4 or 5.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Rafa in straight sets.

Street fighter good times

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Street fighter good times

You got that right. Almost as good as you finally admitting it is Marty and not Joffrey.

 

[Artificial Grass]

I think Nick can only win a match like this when there are little to no expectations of him. The pressure on him is to big now to come up with another win against Rafa. So I think Rafa in 3 comfortable sets.

 

[I Am Finnish]

You got that right. Almost as good as you finally admitting it is Marty and not Joffrey.

 

[Sport]

Again, the word "journeyman" is misused here. Journeymen are guys who have almost never come close to winning a title and play qualies to get into the main draw and mostly challengers. By no one's stretch of the imagination is Nick a journeymen. He's been ranked #13 in the world, has an admirable H2H against the big 3 and has won 5 titles.

I agree that Nicholas Kyrgios is the most difficult rival for a second round.

 

[DSH]

I agree that Nicholas Kyrgios is the most difficult rival for a second round.

Facing Kyrgios, Tsonga and Cilic in a row on the grass is not easy in any way.

 

[Mark-Touch]

If Nick serves well Rafa is toast.
Don't forget Nick will be trying extra hard now to impress his new GF.

 

[Pablo1989]

Nadal in four: 6-7, 6-2, 7-5, 6-1.

I see anything like this too

 

[TennisFan3]

Facing Kyrgios, Tsonga and Cilic in a row on the grass is not easy in any way.

Craziest draw for Nadal. I mean it's ridiculous. This R2 match could have been a QF/SF and the same for his next 2 rounds. Even if he wins, how's he going to play all these players consecutively.
It's a like a Master's 1000 with 5 set matches.

 

[Mark-Touch]

Craziest draw for Nadal. I mean it's ridiculous. This R2 match could have been a QF/SF and the same for his next 2 rounds. Even if he wins, how's he going to play all these players consecutively.
It's a like a Master's 1000 with 5 set matches.

Yeah crocodile tears!
Too bad he'll have to earn this slam if he wants to win it.

 

[Beacon Hill]

Nadal favoured by 3 to 1 odds.

 

[sredna42]

You're all on more crack than Rick James if you think Kyrgios will do anything other than lose in 3 this time.
His serve is not nearly the nuclear weapon it once was, his forehand is off and he was shanking heaps with it and resorting to FH chips and pokes in rallies because of it.
His BH has nothing on it at all at the moment, and he can't even redirect pace well with it.

Compounded by the fact that they've slowed the courts to make them green clay, and the slimy mutant will be motivated to maximum OCD levels because of how salty and triggered he is.

And even IF Kyrgios starts to do well, look for the umpire to simply make a few intentional bad calls against him to provoke him to implode to help nadal win.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Facing Kyrgios, Tsonga and Cilic in a row on the grass is not easy in any way.

Those guys haven’t won their second round matches but most likely. Nadal will definitely have a difficult path we shall see.

 

[DSH]

Craziest draw for Nadal. I mean it's ridiculous. This R2 match could have been a QF/SF and the same for his next 2 rounds. Even if he wins, how's he going to play all these players consecutively.
It's a like a Master's 1000 with 5 set matches.

Do not exaggerate, please.
I said it's not easy, but it's not impossible either.
If he still has the desire and dreams of being a champion in the All England Club, he will have to overcome tests from the beginning of the tournament.
Can he?

 

[DSH]

If Nick serves well Rafa is toast.
Don't forget Nick will be trying extra hard now to impress his new GF.

If Nadal returns his bombs short, he will be in serious trouble, I agree.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

If Nick serves well Rafa is toast.
Don't forget Nick will be trying extra hard now to impress his new GF.

Kyrgios had 37 aces. Don’t see him doing that again. If he does god bless him.

 

[DSH]

Kyrgios had 37 aces. Don’t see him doing that again. If he does god bless him.

Do you know what was the percentage of first services of Kyrgios in that match?

 

[Pheasant]

Nadal will win in two sets. Kyrgios will lose a tight grueling 1st set. After that, Nadal will stream roll Kyrgios.

Nadal will go up 7-5, 5-2, then Kyrgios will retire.

 

[TennisFan3]

Do not exaggerate, please.
I said it's not easy, but it's not impossible either.
If he still has the desire and dreams of being a champion in the All England Club, he will have to overcome tests from the beginning of the tournament.
Can he?

All that is good. But it is still a heck of a draw.
Most players have won slams with much easier draws. Even Nadal has.
It's not unfair or anything but it will make the job much more complicated.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Do you know what was the percentage of first services of Kyrgios in that match?

68 percent on first serves.

 

[Steve0904]

Who is @vive le beau jeu ! rooting for?

 

[TennisFan3]

Kyrgios had 37 aces. Don’t see him doing that again. If he does god bless him.

You have to consider the fact it is easier to ace Nadal than it is to ace Djoker or Fed. Kygrios would never have 37 aces against Fedovic or Murray. Nadal's ROS is just not as good on grass. It's easy for big servers against him.

Rafa made 5 finals from 2006 to 2011 and now he hasn't made one since 8 years as his ROS has declined.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

You have to consider the fact it is easier to ace Nadal than it is to ace Djoker or Fed. Kygrios would never have 37 aces against Fedovic or Murray. Nadal's ROS is just not as good on grass. It's easy for big servers against him.

Rafa made 5 finals from 2006 to 2011 and now he hasn't made one since 8 years as his ROS has declined.

Nadal was aced on match point at 4 straight Wimbledon's from 2012-2015. On grass he often doesn't even move toward the ball in recent years.

 

[oldmanfan]

Uh-oh, KyrGOAT was 'super happy' to find out that Rafa was in his section of the draw...

 

[TennisFan3]

Nadal was aced on match point at 4 straight Wimbledon's from 2012-2015. On grass he often doesn't even move toward the ball in recent years.

I agree. It's very strange. He is not even reading serves right. He also has the wrong grip a bunch of times so he is caught hacking. Then his huge follow through. He is always in half a mind whether to stand far back and take a full cut at the ball or chip-block the ball. But he doesn't have the technique to take a short cut at the ROS that Djoker or Fed can. When he takes a long cut he shanks a lot since the ball comes low and fast.

Nadal is great when he can force a neutral rally while returning serve. But his trouble comes that most times on faster surfaces he cannot even get the ball back in play vs big servers. Forget about aces, even compare the serve winners of a big server vs Nadal, compared to a big server vs Fed or Djokovic. The difference is night and day.

And this has become worse as Nadal has gotten older. His reflexes are slower and his movement less explosive. So even though he has improved his rally offense, the decline in ROS costs him dearly on grass. And hence his recent record.

 

[swizzy]

nick has a hamstring issue..possibly a glute pull.. nadal should be able to punish this infirmity

 

[Dondon]

You're all on more crack than Rick James if you think Kyrgios will do anything other than lose in 3 this time.
His serve is not nearly the nuclear weapon it once was, his forehand is off and he was shanking heaps with it and resorting to FH chips and pokes in rallies because of it.
His BH has nothing on it at all at the moment, and he can't even redirect pace well with it.

Compounded by the fact that they've slowed the courts to make them green clay, and the slimy mutant will be motivated to maximum OCD levels because of how salty and triggered he is.

And even IF Kyrgios starts to do well, look for the umpire to simply make a few intentional bad calls against him to provoke him to implode to help nadal win.

He's busy picking out Jordans from the store
Hanging with Ash in wta locker room

Wad a Clowner

 

[dunlop_fort_knox]

nick is feeling ill and has asked his good friend bernard tomic to stand in for him.

 

[zagor]

Nadal in lopsided straights, the only thing Nick the Tank has trained lately is his mouth.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Wipe him off the fkn court Rafa.

One would think a Djokovic fan would want Nadal to lose. There's probably only two guys in the draw who can beat him and Nadal is one.