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2023 Yonex VCores
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ichaseballs
Professional
the 98 with 2 grams in the head is much better.
1g at each 3&9 or 10&2 (hard to say because racquet isn't symmetrical)
1g at each 3&9 or 10&2 (hard to say because racquet isn't symmetrical)
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
haha exactly right about the asymmetry, i would say my lead placement on the 95 was closer to what would be 3 and 9 on a traditional head shape but skewed to 10/2
Fxanimator1
Hall of Fame
I was just thinking that this morning. I measured the swing weight on my 95 and I would need to add exactly 4 grams to the hoop to get it to 325sw and 340 grams, and I would need to put it exactly at.........%(%@^(*(*$#!!!!!
.........Wherever that is on this weird shape. 10:45 and 1:15?
Fablefevre
New User
Had another hit with the 98. This time I strung it with Volkl Cyclone black 1.25 at 50lbs (mains) 48lbs crosses (previously it was lynx tour 1.25 at 48lbs and i was hitting balls long). Will probably try 52/50 next tho just to get more control and the confidence to swing out more.
I also changed the base grip to a heavier Artengo absorb grip (I just like the feel of it). It may have added about 4g to the handle.
The racket plays great. I feel like I have to really hit it at the head (top portion) to get the control; whip and the spin to trouble my opponents. I was able to finish short balls with confidence
The racket has decent feel too and it’s stable in stock form at the same time.
I also changed the base grip to a heavier Artengo absorb grip (I just like the feel of it). It may have added about 4g to the handle.
The racket plays great. I feel like I have to really hit it at the head (top portion) to get the control; whip and the spin to trouble my opponents. I was able to finish short balls with confidence
The racket has decent feel too and it’s stable in stock form at the same time.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
That's bizzarre on the SW, the '21 s should be above 320 and my demo '23 was, frustrating for sure.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
My biggest fan, thanks for being you.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
I appreciate the apprehension. Look, Vicious just got mad at me and he's gotten mad at plenty of people before me when he insisted no one on this earth could play with the '21 VC95 without adding weight. Weight will definitely unlock potential of the VC95, but I promise that no one posting on these boards is achieving the rhs or facing the level of competition where that is a "must". Vicsious is a passionate racketholic and a passionate adult beginner and like many is experimenting with lead. But, why? Literally, I know UTR 10s and UTR11s in high school tennis and a few in division 1 NCAA tennis that use bone stock VC95s. They probably don't even know what their SW is. Based on the feedback here it could be 318-322 ish. They just hit the **** out of the ball.
KC!
Hall of Fame
My other racquet I play with is the Blade Pro, which has so much feel to it. I know the VCORE 100 is never going to match up to the BP when it comes to feel, but I decided to throw on a leather grip to see if it would help. I thought it would probably be to harsh, but I was so pleasantly surprised on how great it felt.
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Deleted member 746200
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Not sure if anyone noticed, Nishioka's current racket is the new 07 Vcore 98 mold with 05/06 Vcore 98 string pattern...And I can totally feel the same way with him. The current 07 Vcore string pattern is too open to hit flat. If I dont hit with massive top spin, the ball will be unpredictable.
DanTheMan1972
Rookie
Yonex VCORE 98 2023 Racquet Review - Tennis Warehouse
www.tennis-warehouse.com
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
maneuverability 79? this is a very maneuverable racket...?
*relatively* low serve and power score as well. i found it quite powerful and def good serving
i would flip some of their ratings but overall I think it is quite middle of the road for Yonex, the 98 is a pretty good racket that may or may not suit your game
*relatively* low serve and power score as well. i found it quite powerful and def good serving
i would flip some of their ratings but overall I think it is quite middle of the road for Yonex, the 98 is a pretty good racket that may or may not suit your game
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
Yonex VCORE 95 2023 Racquet Review - Tennis Warehouse
www.tennis-warehouse.com
i do agree with a lot of the scores on the 95 though
but with some weight it is a fantastic racket
Torps
Semi-Pro
Yes, peculiar considering the EZ98 got a 84 and they have the same specs in this regard. My VC98 arrives today.. going to slap a leather grip on and will have a hit with the EZ98 side by side in the morning.
DanTheMan1972
Rookie
The numbers don't say much. 4 other playtesters and the numbers could look completely different. Austin only gave it a 7 for maneuverability. I've only tested the Vcore 98 for 2 hours so far, but I found the maneuverability to be similar to the Ezone 98.
I just hit with the 95 again but this time with about 6 grams of lead added to 12, 6 and 3 (leather grip as well). I was a bit skeptical of the fact that adding lead would "unlock" features from the racquet that were not there stock but man was I was taken aback by the added control and depth I am able to put on the ball. I haven't measured sw but the racquet now behaves very similarly to the 2018 version which was leaded up very similary. The racquet in stock form was a bit harder to stay consistent with but now I feel like my groundstrokes are a lot more solid even though it will take some time to get used to the overall new setup. I feel like I benefit a lot from this stick with the added weight as I am switching from an RF97A which has been my main racquet for the past 5 years but I am now feeling the need for more added comfort while also adding a bit more ease of spin and control. I could still add a lot more lead and it would still be lighter than my previous frame so I do see a lot of others benefiting from utilizing lead on these frames if they are looking for more stability.
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
I understand some ppl dont wana deal with customization cause its a wormhole and also jsut a pain in the ass measuring and cutting lead ( then not getting it right). But some rackets really jsut are meant to messed around with
Get him @FuzzyYellowBalls he ADDED LEAD!
I didn't really do any scientific customizations with it. I really just matched up the racquet the same way my 2018 is and it plays beautifully. I can understand that some people don't see the need for lead tape but with an added leather grip, you really want to balance the frame so that it doesn't feel too headlight. I think almost anyone can agree with this segment as I played with stock frames most my life, but once I started using leather grips under an over grip, I felt that I needed (not wanted) the extra lead in the hoop.
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
Lol get him
ha ha . I think I may have been the first one to add the lead at 3 and 9 and 12 , it transformed the racquet
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
Is FYB coming after me now
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
You seem grumpy.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
I can't, I'm sure he's a nationally ranked 5.0 plus player, can't suggest anything to those guys. I'm certainly not emailing Karue. But, I'll argue with any 3.0-3.5 player that calls me an idiot and insists no one can play with a VC95 without lead (Vicious).
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
Nah, just don't call me an idiot and don't insist that no one could ever play with this racket without lead (while being a UTR 3 - 4 player). Otherwise, have at it.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
I agree, the '21 is the slightly better racket. Yonex I don't think does change for change's sake, but the shift in the '23 with the flex didn't make it better, just different.
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
i wonder what your thoughts would have been if you leaded the throat as well as matched it with your other v core
although I did hear you comment you wanted to get away from customising frames as much now and focus on the tennis
did you ever play review the speed 2022 , would love a review from you on that frame too ?
kvan
Semi-Pro
I thought about it, too, but only had the demo for a few days. I’m sure I could’ve modified enough to make it feel/work a bit better for me. Just not worth it with the performance I was getting out of my ‘21s.
And yeah, I’ve been customizing my Vcores but used to use frames that didn’t require any customization outside of matching purposes.
And speaking of… more to come about the speed line
Torps
Semi-Pro
Wow the VC98 has a ton of flex compared to the EZ98. Felt like it has even more flex than the VCP.. more power and spin than EZ98, less control. My VC98 was heavy OOTB @ 307 gms. With leather grip, super grap and dampener it’s at 343gm compared to 335gm for the EZ98(same setup). It feels head heavy and slower to swing than the Ezone which I thought was odd. Serves are better than Ezone. I think I agree with TW maneuverability score compared to EZ98 at this point. I strung both at 47/45, but I think I might string the VCore at 47/47 to tame the string bed and launch a bit.
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
Having various frames doesn’t help when having the 95 .
I pkayed with the 95 about 2 weeks ago and was very enjoyable . Haven’t picked it up until today , much harder when you haven’t been using it and transition from another frame like head and my more powerful yonex s
I think it’s a great frame if you one and only , it just can’t be the one and only in my collection so will probably move one on as mo point it just sitting there
I pkayed with the 95 about 2 weeks ago and was very enjoyable . Haven’t picked it up until today , much harder when you haven’t been using it and transition from another frame like head and my more powerful yonex s
I think it’s a great frame if you one and only , it just can’t be the one and only in my collection so will probably move one on as mo point it just sitting there
Power Player
Bionic Poster
Its not worth getting salty about, the reality is lead is a personal thing. Not everyone who plays tennis is built the same. I played football and lacrosse and lifted a lot of weights for a long time, I am built more like a running back than Federer, so I like a little bit of lead on my frames or else they simply feel to light for me. That said, I am not playing with heavy specs personally, but I do like a mid 330s Sw on a Blade yet I like around 10 SW points less on a tweener or a Yonex. I can't get down with ~315 Sw, it's just a little low for my tastes, but I have seen people do quite fine with that too.
It's a personal thing, unless we are all built the exact same and have the same physiques, insisting about every frame needs lead is lame and also insisting that no frames need lead because we are rec players is equally as lame.
Specs are weird, they are tough to figure out, which is why even pros screw with different lead setups.
It's a personal thing, unless we are all built the exact same and have the same physiques, insisting about every frame needs lead is lame and also insisting that no frames need lead because we are rec players is equally as lame.
Specs are weird, they are tough to figure out, which is why even pros screw with different lead setups.
Saitamaxpunch1
Rookie
Vcores representing in ATP and WTA finals this weekend with Tommy Paul & Caroline Garcia
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
it comes down to your mechanics too. the Vcores across the board much like an extreme or Pure Aero do not work for me without beefing up
but i could very easily use a TF40 or speed Pro stock no problem. even an ezone i could use stock i think
lead is alwasy a touchy subject tho haha
evermilion
New User
I relate to this so much right now. Went back to my old VC95 2021 and played for a bit until my 07 came in. I've actually been having a hard time dialing in my rhythm or timing. To be honest, I feel like I'm in a slump and keep going back my VC95 2021 for important league matches. This back and forth usage is probably not helping. I might just need to take the L and stick to the new one for a while...
Federerkblade
Hall of Fame
I would add the 100 is just pick up and play
my xi 98 is pick up and play
speed pro great frame but not as easy as the other two but can pick up and play
95 for me takes training and then I hit well with it ..
my xi 98 is pick up and play
speed pro great frame but not as easy as the other two but can pick up and play
95 for me takes training and then I hit well with it ..
evermilion
New User
My month long demo was like that. Took some time to dial it in and even the stock form felt great at the end.
Playtimefun
Rookie
Ok... finally my new VC95 came in!!!
First impressions stringing it up yesterday... how did you guys (who string your own racquets) not mention the change in stringing 21 version skip 8T and 8H while 23 version skip 7T, 9T, 8H. So instantly you see the wider spacing all the way through. Pretty hard not to notice it.
Hit with the wife this morning for an hour only as she is coming from 5 weeks off due to an ankle sprain.
3 things that I noticed immediately. Stability definitely better on groundstrokes. I didn't get a chance to hit more than 4 volleys as this was a chance more for the wife to hit. Backhand slice has FINALLY shown up. Could control it and keep it low and driven. And... ability to hit a flatter more powerful forehand!!!! Before I felt like I couldn't hit a power forehand. Don't get me wrong... proper footwork to the ball and swinging through you got decent... but nothing exceptional power. It sort of maybe feels like the sweet spot is slightly higher in the frame, but now I can flatten out shots much easier and with very good flat power. Better spin. Overall the racquet definitely feels a touch more powerful.
I just tried it completely stock today with Volkl cyclone 19 gauge at 40 in mains and gosen micro 18 gauge at 40 in crosses. Both double pulled (pre tensioned) so it's probably the equivalent of 42-43 if you don't pretension your strings.
I want to try putting a leather grip on but unfortunately they sent me a yonex imitation leather grip instead of their actual leather grip. Oh well, for what I pay for the racquets I can't complain.
For the one gentleman who said hated getting the light weight or low swingweight racquets... send them my way!!! I hate getting the heavy weight high swingweight racquets. Because you can always add a touch of leadtape and make it what you want versus you can't take it off unless you start trimming head guards, etc
First impressions stringing it up yesterday... how did you guys (who string your own racquets) not mention the change in stringing 21 version skip 8T and 8H while 23 version skip 7T, 9T, 8H. So instantly you see the wider spacing all the way through. Pretty hard not to notice it.
Hit with the wife this morning for an hour only as she is coming from 5 weeks off due to an ankle sprain.
3 things that I noticed immediately. Stability definitely better on groundstrokes. I didn't get a chance to hit more than 4 volleys as this was a chance more for the wife to hit. Backhand slice has FINALLY shown up. Could control it and keep it low and driven. And... ability to hit a flatter more powerful forehand!!!! Before I felt like I couldn't hit a power forehand. Don't get me wrong... proper footwork to the ball and swinging through you got decent... but nothing exceptional power. It sort of maybe feels like the sweet spot is slightly higher in the frame, but now I can flatten out shots much easier and with very good flat power. Better spin. Overall the racquet definitely feels a touch more powerful.
I just tried it completely stock today with Volkl cyclone 19 gauge at 40 in mains and gosen micro 18 gauge at 40 in crosses. Both double pulled (pre tensioned) so it's probably the equivalent of 42-43 if you don't pretension your strings.
I want to try putting a leather grip on but unfortunately they sent me a yonex imitation leather grip instead of their actual leather grip. Oh well, for what I pay for the racquets I can't complain.
For the one gentleman who said hated getting the light weight or low swingweight racquets... send them my way!!! I hate getting the heavy weight high swingweight racquets. Because you can always add a touch of leadtape and make it what you want versus you can't take it off unless you start trimming head guards, etc
Fxanimator1
Hall of Fame
I string my own frames, in fact, I’ve strung this one up 4 times already to get the string setup I like. Not everyone has strung a ‘21 version, so they wouldn’t even know there’s a difference in string patterns. I had to look at pictures of the 2 frames to see there was a difference between them before the first stringing.
Finally got to demo the 95, had it strung up with my own string. 2hrs of singles so far, probably have it another 10 days.
Went with a go-to, Big Banger Original at 48lbs.
What I'll say first is if anyone wants their racquet to feel firmer, use BBO. I'm surprised at 48lbs that it feels as firm as it does.
So far so good, you can really crank up some spin with it despite the string pattern/head-size combo.
Still a mostly flat-ish trajectory but looping shots are easily hit, which is nice to have. Not so flat like an 18x20.
Sweetspot felt good, but pretty defined. I think one drawback of the awkward headshape is an awkward sweet spot that is mostly toward the upper third. Hitting in the center seemed to lack a bit of power.
Feel is definitely there, still has that dampened sensation, like watered down feedback, but no longer is it so muted.
The racquet felt plenty solid, seemed like a decent swingweight as it didn't feel light and whippy to me.
Groundstrokes were good, need another session to get the timing.
Didn't get enough volleys.
Serves were good, I'd say average, not spectacular. Nice placement and decent kick.
Control was good, overall, nearly as pinpoint as my Ultra Tour. Not sure if it's the fanned headshape but it really does have a nice blend of control and spin.
Got some doubles and singles, looking forward to some more time with it, particularly when the strings loosen up more.
Went with a go-to, Big Banger Original at 48lbs.
What I'll say first is if anyone wants their racquet to feel firmer, use BBO. I'm surprised at 48lbs that it feels as firm as it does.
So far so good, you can really crank up some spin with it despite the string pattern/head-size combo.
Still a mostly flat-ish trajectory but looping shots are easily hit, which is nice to have. Not so flat like an 18x20.
Sweetspot felt good, but pretty defined. I think one drawback of the awkward headshape is an awkward sweet spot that is mostly toward the upper third. Hitting in the center seemed to lack a bit of power.
Feel is definitely there, still has that dampened sensation, like watered down feedback, but no longer is it so muted.
The racquet felt plenty solid, seemed like a decent swingweight as it didn't feel light and whippy to me.
Groundstrokes were good, need another session to get the timing.
Didn't get enough volleys.
Serves were good, I'd say average, not spectacular. Nice placement and decent kick.
Control was good, overall, nearly as pinpoint as my Ultra Tour. Not sure if it's the fanned headshape but it really does have a nice blend of control and spin.
Got some doubles and singles, looking forward to some more time with it, particularly when the strings loosen up more.
ClownCar96
Semi-Pro
How you liking that Gamma X-ELS @Federerkblade??? I'm about to pop on one once I work on the wife a bit more : )I just wrapped up the stringing on this one. Very easy to string. So between the last post I just made until now is how long it took.
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
Don't scare people who might be cautious to try it, I alternated between the '23 vc95 and the '22 Ezone Tour every other game during a couple matches, no problem.
Fxanimator1
Hall of Fame
This is actually my photo, and I love the machine. I have had it since 2015 I think. Never had an issue with it and I have strung hundreds of string jobs on it.
ClownCar96
Semi-Pro
my bad, nice. Great to know, thank you
Fxanimator1
Hall of Fame
I wished I had done it sooner to be honest, because I was wasting a lot of money, gas and time driving far as I had to go for stringing.
You will be happy that you can just sit at home and do it. I do my whole family’s racquets, so I do a lot.
After a while it has paid for itself many times over.
In a nutshell, totally recommend it.
SupahMan5000
Hall of Fame
i dont understand why more ppl dont get own machines. assuming you pay $30 per string job, 200 times, (geneerous considering prices clubs charge now) you could prob net even off a wilson Baiardo in 2-5 years ish depending on how much you break/restring. and you could net way sooner if you have clients
edit: and obviously you dont need a $6k machine just putting into perspective how much you might spend on stringing over the years
Fxanimator1
Hall of Fame
For the VCore 95 2023,
Skip 7 and 9 at the throat
Skip 8 at the head
Tie off mains at 8T
Start crosses at 8H, tie off starting cross at 6H
Tie off ending crosses at 9T
Clippermate only has the pattern for the V6.
