Aerogel 300 Appreciation Society

[Galdust]

Hey, I've used a demo of the 300 tour this week and I think I've fallen in love with it :lol: But the strings it came with were pretty poor and had too high tension for my liking. I will order two from TW, but I'm not sure which strings and at what tension I'd like them to come with. I think I want to try full poly to start with... Any recommendations? Thanks

 

[Staiger]

I think you need to be comfortable with the racket you are using , and that you are confident with the setup , just look at Djokovic in the begining of the year for an example .

 

[Staiger]

Hey, I've used a demo of the 300 tour this week and I think I've fallen in love with it :lol: But the strings it came with were pretty poor and had too high tension for my liking. I will order two from TW, but I'm not sure which strings and at what tension I'd like them to come with. I think I want to try full poly to start with... Any recommendations? Thanks

Nice to hear that you found something you like . for the 16x18 I would go for a set of Big Banger original at 60lbs , but what kind of player are you because that is a big factor to string selection..The pro hurricane tour is pretty sweet as well

 

[Deleted member 25923]

The AG300 isn't as soft/comfortable as the AG200, but the open pattern/low SW definitely makes the frame more tolerable. The lighter weight increased my racket head speed, and the open pattern definitely saved me a few times tonight. It's definitely beginning to grow on me.

Which version?

Hey, I've used a demo of the 300 tour this week and I think I've fallen in love with it :lol: But the strings it came with were pretty poor and had too high tension for my liking. I will order two from TW, but I'm not sure which strings and at what tension I'd like them to come with. I think I want to try full poly to start with... Any recommendations? Thanks

It's a great frame. A close second to my 100.

 

[Galdust]

Nice to hear that you found something you like . for the 16x18 I would go for a set of Big Banger original at 60lbs , but what kind of player are you because that is a big factor to string selection..The pro hurricane tour is pretty sweet as well

The string pattern is 18x20 I'm mostly a baseliner, but I'm trying to become more offensive by coming to the net more often. My serve is pretty good (at least for my height, I'm only 1,72 meters tall). I'd like a string that can help me generate some more spin since the string pattern is tight. I've been reading the string guides in the string section forum, but there is just too much to choose between! :shock: Oh, and btw, tennis elbow and arm pain has never been an issue for me, so I think I can handle most strings.

 

[dadozen]

Hi guys!

I'll run some tests this weekend on my 300Ts. The stringjobs were already loose, so I cut them off and will take them to the local shop to restring. I'll also pick up my third 300T that will be delivered today and string them accordingly to the following:

1 raqcuet with Maxim Touch mains and BA Micro crosses

1 racquet with BA Micro mains and Maxim Touch crosses

1 racquet with Maxim Touch mains and BA(1.22mm ) crosses

All setups @ 59x63.

I want to test a set of BA Micro I have now on the mains and on the crosses, and check the differences between my current setup and MTxBA. I don't have durability issues, since my stringjobs always go dead before breaking.

I'll update the impressions as soon as I can

Ok guys, these are my impressions on my new stringjobs:

MT mains x BA Micro crosses ( 59/63 ): very good ball feeling, touch and pop, although not so different from what I have before with the opposite stringjob. The bite has also increased, I felt that I could go for my hardest and fastest swing and I could not worry if the ball would land in or out. But, and a VERY BIG BUT here, the durability has seriously dropped. I mean, I'm not a string breaker at all, especially using poly/multi hybrids, I had to cut my stringjobs because they get loose before breaking, but this multi/poly stringjob lasted me 1 short set ( 6x0 ), and one warming hitting session. Less than 1 hour total. I mean, I have three racquets, my own string reels, I just don't string by myself, but it's not that expensive anyways, but it's inviable to keep this stringjob. I mean, I risk getting out of racquets if I play a long best of 3 sets game. And the local shop that I usually take my racquets to string is not that close to go every week.

MT mains x BA regular (1.22mm ) crosses ( 59/63 ): Same as before, but it lasts a little longer, maybe because the thicker gauge doesn't saw the multi as hard as BA Micro. But the bite at the ball is so much weaker, and that really surprised me, since I thought I wouldn't feel that much of a difference. This stringjob hasn't broken yet( I have already played longer than with the first stringjob ), but if it lasts considerably longer than the first, I might choose for this one.

BA Micro mains x MT crosses ( 59/63 ): very similar to my usual stringjob( using BA 1.22mm instead of BA Micro on the mains ). That was what I supposed that would happen. A tad more comfortable though, but nothing that makes me changing my current BA 1.22mm string reel for a new BA Micro reel.

Btw, I lost my doubles game( 6x4 6x4, couldn't confirm one single serving game of mine ) but I won my singles game( 6x4 6x1, was a bit nervous at the beginning since I haven't played tourneys for very long ) I'm in the semifinals already, will play again this friday. I hope I can reach the finals to give my 300Ts a trophy And it's better be a gold trophy

 

[Dr. Degauss]

OK, here it goes.
I am now ready to restring my AG300 with new strings.
Previously I had/have it strung with Babolat Hurricane Pro Tour 17G @ 62. I was looking for more control-oriented setup and I did the trick perfectly.
So, now I am looking for more power setup, but I do not want to loose completely of what I had. Meaning of it : I will go with less tension for sure, let's say with 56. I want to leave same 17G, cuz there is bite (a bit more control, IMHO). I want to have a bit more pop and power.
So, what brand, model and setup (hybrid/not) of strings I need to choose? Help, please!

 

[fantom]

I'm finally settled. 300T is the one for me. I only switch every 4-5 years, so I wanted to be sure. Here are the racquets that I've tried:

MG Prestige MP
MG Prestige Pro
MG Radical Pro
4D 300
Youtek Radical MP
Youtek Speed MP (16x19)
Dunlop AG 200

My old racquet was the Head LM Radical Tour.

I'm glad my search is finally over. The Microgel Prestige Pro gave it a run for the money, but came up just short.....

Now to finalize my string choice....................

 

[dadozen]

I'm finally settled. 300T is the one for me. I only switch every 4-5 years, so I wanted to be sure. Here are the racquets that I've tried:

MG Prestige MP
MG Prestige Pro
MG Radical Pro
4D 300
Youtek Radical MP
Youtek Speed MP (16x19)
Dunlop AG 200

My old racquet was the Head LM Radical Tour.

I'm glad my search is finally over. The Microgel Prestige Pro gave it a run for the money, but came up just short.....

Now to finalize my string choice....................

Glad to know that you have decided for the 300Ts! Are you still using lead @ 12 or have changed that?

 

[fantom]

Glad to know that you have decided for the 300Ts! Are you still using lead @ 12 or have changed that?

Not any more. I had lead @ 12 when I first bought the 300T. That was with either all multi or poly mains/multi cross setups. I then moved to all poly and found that I no longer needed the lead @ 12 to move the sweetspot up. I also like the extra maneuverability w/out the lead @ 12.

One of my racquets has just 1g at 10 & 2. The other has no lead.

I'm also experimenting w/ different polys.

 

[dadozen]

Not any more. I had lead @ 12 when I first bought the 300T. That was with either all multi or poly mains/multi cross setups. I then moved to all poly and found that I no longer needed the lead @ 12 to move the sweetspot up. I also like the extra maneuverability w/out the lead @ 12.

One of my racquets has just 1g at 10 & 2. The other has no lead.

I'm also experimenting w/ different polys.

I once tried my 300Ts with full BA 1.22mm and I liked how the SS went up on the stringbed even strung @ 60/59. But I couldn't handle all the stifness. So I moved back to BA/MT but now @ 59/63, and I really liked, but I'm thinking of trying a full 19g poly stringjob at lower tensions, like 55/59 or 56/60. So far I have added to my testlist Kirschbaum pro Line II, tecnifibre Black Code and Pro Supex BA Micro( which I have already tested with hybrid setups ).

Have you tried any of those?

 

[fantom]

I once tried my 300Ts with full BA 1.22mm and I liked how the SS went up on the stringbed even strung @ 60/59. But I couldn't handle all the stifness. So I moved back to BA/MT but now @ 59/63, and I really liked, but I'm thinking of trying a full 19g poly stringjob at lower tensions, like 55/59 or 56/60. So far I have added to my testlist Kirschbaum pro Line II, tecnifibre Black Code and Pro Supex BA Micro( which I have already tested with hybrid setups ).

Have you tried any of those?

Nope, but I do plan on trying both of those Pro Line II and Black Code. So far I've used Signum Pro Poly Plasma 17L and Weiscannon Silverstring 1.20mm. I have packs of Unique Big Hitter Blue 17L and Topspin Cyberflash 17L to go through before buying more string, though.

 

[dadozen]

Nope, but I do plan on trying both of those Pro Line II and Black Code. So far I've used Signum Pro Poly Plasma 17L and Weiscannon Silverstring 1.20mm. I have packs of Unique Big Hitter Blue 17L and Topspin Cyberflash 17L to go through before buying more string, though.

Lol so you have yet a long run before getting to those Kirsch and TF strings

I wish I had more options to choose from in my area, but it's not the case.

 

[sciwriter]

I've been playing with 300 4D -- it's perfect! So now after a lot of searching and a lot of money spent, I've found the right racquet for me, with the right amount of lead, the right grip, the right overgrip, the right strings, the right gauge, the right stringer. I sure hope this feeling lasts.

 

[Racer41c]

I've been playing with 300 4D -- it's perfect! So now after a lot of searching and a lot of money spent, I've found the right racquet for me, with the right amount of lead, the right grip, the right overgrip, the right strings, the right gauge, the right stringer. I sure hope this feeling lasts.

Which one Writer, the T or 16x19? Either way I feel exactly the same way. I'm just loving the 16x19 and I'm closing in on a perfect setup. If I had to play the next 5 years with what I have now, I would be very happy.

 

[sciwriter]

The 16/19 for me. I'm afraid of demoing the T. I might like it and then have to buy it. And then I'd have to buy another as a spare. Maybe next year. For now I'm very happy to stand pat.

 

[Links]

Well, finally pulled the trigger and ordered the 4D 300T. Picked it over the 4D300 and the 200. Can't wait until it gets here.

 

[fantom]

Well, finally pulled the trigger and ordered the 4D 300T. Picked it over the 4D300 and the 200. Can't wait until it gets here.

Don't give up on it if it doesn't feel great on the first hit. Especially if you have a synthetic gut or multifilament string job. The upper part of the hoop will feel really dead and vibrate a lot. Just 2-3 grams of lead @ 12:00 cures that.

 

[dadozen]

Ok guys, after being pretty happy with poly/multi setups, and now trying multi/polys hybrids, I'm going to pull the trigger on Kirschbaum PLII 1.15mm and MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm and test full poly stringjobs, using the thinnest sting possible and lowering the tension.

Plus, I think that the red PLII and the black MSV Hex will look sick when strung in my 300Ts:twisted:

I will still keep my BA and MT reels so I can string them from time to time whenever I want to get a very arm-friendly stringjob.

 

[Racer41c]

Ok guys, after being pretty happy with poly/multi setups, and now trying multi/polys hybrids, I'm going to pull the trigger on Kirschbaum PLII 1.15mm and MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm and test full poly stringjobs, using the thinnest sting possible and lowering the tension.

Plus, I think that the red PLII and the black MSV Hex will look sick when strung in my 300Ts:twisted:

I will still keep my BA and MT reels so I can string them from time to time whenever I want to get a very arm-friendly stringjob.

Totally agree black string looks really good in the 4d 300's.

 

[dadozen]

Totally agree black string looks really good in the 4d 300's.

Sadly I can't find the MSV Focus Hex 1.10 anywhere. If I have to choose a 1.18mm string, i'll go for the TEcnifibre Black Code. Has anyone tried this string already?

 

[Shangri La]

I'm finally settled. 300T is the one for me. I only switch every 4-5 years, so I wanted to be sure. Here are the racquets that I've tried:

MG Prestige MP
MG Prestige Pro
MG Radical Pro
4D 300
Youtek Radical MP
Youtek Speed MP (16x19)
Dunlop AG 200

My old racquet was the Head LM Radical Tour.

I'm glad my search is finally over. The Microgel Prestige Pro gave it a run for the money, but came up just short.....

Now to finalize my string choice....................

Since you've hit with the 300tour and the youteck radical mp, and they're close in specs, how do they compare in play and why do you prefer the 300tour? thanks.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

I absolutely love the AG100, and I am waiting for it to arrive. That said, the 300tour is probably my second favorite racquet at the moment. It has almost everything I could ask for. It was fantastic, but lacked that finishing blow and confidence on serve that the AG100 gave me.

 

[dadozen]

Oh man how I wish I had a AG100 as well. but at first, I spent my money on my third 300T, and, second of all, I'm afraid of liking it too much and giving up on the 300Ts

 

[tacotanium]

alright guys. finally got my AG300 like i always wanted. i don't wanna write an essay here but to shorten things up, i love it. better than my M-Fil 300. control and volley felt more stable for me. everything about it is a big improvement especially the paint job.
some pics:

got the same string and tension to see how different it plays.

but...i have one big problem. unfortunately it's an defective one. it makes some kind of vibrating noise almost every hit.

sounds like something is loose in the frame at around 10 and 2 O clock. i was reading a few pages on this thread and some say they had a squeaky handle. mine didn't sound like it's from the handle. anyone know the problem? it's really really annoying. other than that i love it.

 

[tacotanium]

to not confuse what i said earlier. i meant to say there is a ping sound once it makes contact, not a vibration. again, really annoying.

No Kiefers, just the opposite. The US 16x19 has the same beam width throughout. It is the 16x18 that has the thinner beam width at the bottom of the head, at 6 o'clock. It also has the indentation at that area. The 16x18 is the same mold as the "James Blake" version, thinner total beam width and indentations at the throat. Thinner beam at the bottom of the head also.

Does this answer your question? The 16x18 is a totally different mold than the 16x19.

saw this in earlier pages. my 16x19 has a thinner beam width at 6 O'clock. what does that mean?

 

[Links]

Don't give up on it if it doesn't feel great on the first hit. Especially if you have a synthetic gut or multifilament string job. The upper part of the hoop will feel really dead and vibrate a lot. Just 2-3 grams of lead @ 12:00 cures that.

Oh I've hit with it for almost 2 weeks and I kept taking it out with other racquets and always like the 4d 300T the best. I set it up with a mulit string (wish I could remember the name) the store owner recommended at 61 to start with. I cannot wait for it to get here. The thing is, I need some more competitive players to play with to see how it is in more intense situations.

 

[AlpineCadet]

Even though I just bought my AG300 a few days ago, I'm already dying to get rid of it for 80 bucks

Maybe I'll try the AG200 16x19 next..

 

[shell]

to not confuse what i said earlier. i meant to say there is a ping sound once it makes contact, not a vibration. again, really annoying.



saw this in earlier pages. my 16x19 has a thinner beam width at 6 O'clock. what does that mean?

Yes, Chocobo, that was bad info. on my part. The 6 o'clock beam width does get narrower on both 16x19 and 16x18. It is more narrow on the 16x18 than the 16x19, but then the whole racquet is narrower. Sorry for the confusion. Yours is fine

 

[PimpMyGame]

A QUICK HEADS-UP FOR UK MEMBERS:

Sports Direct (where a lot of us picked up cheap AG300 16x19s) have started to stock 4D rackets. I saw a 500 4D and another model that looked more brown than red so it may have been the 700. In any case only a matter of time before the 300 model gets in there. Prices were around £80.

On a slightly different point, AG200s (non-4D) were being sold for £50 each. That's a lot of racket for the money in this country!

 

[tacotanium]

Even though I just bought my AG300 a few days ago, I'm already dying to get rid of it for 80 bucks

Maybe I'll try the AG200 16x19 next..

if you are selling your AG300, what size is your grip?

 

[PimpMyGame]

The AG300 isn't as soft/comfortable as the AG200, but the open pattern/low SW definitely makes the frame more tolerable. The lighter weight increased my racket head speed, and the open pattern definitely saved me a few times tonight. It's definitely beginning to grow on me.

Even though I just bought my AG300 a few days ago, I'm already dying to get rid of it for 80 bucks

Maybe I'll try the AG200 16x19 next..

Oh no...what happened to make you change your mind in 4 days?

 

[AlpineCadet]

It's an L4, 4 1/2 gripsize. I'm used to my i.Prestige MP weight, and the AG300 just wasn't doing much for my serves. I loved it for everything else though.

 

[Chi]

A QUICK HEADS-UP FOR UK MEMBERS:

Sports Direct (where a lot of us picked up cheap AG300 16x19s) have started to stock 4D rackets. I saw a 500 4D and another model that looked more brown than red so it may have been the 700. In any case only a matter of time before the 300 model gets in there. Prices were around £80.

On a slightly different point, AG200s (non-4D) were being sold for £50 each. That's a lot of racket for the money in this country!

Cool - thanks for the heads up! I'll have to check out my local branches...

Shout again if you happen to see any 200 4D's (16x19) in their stores - I fancy giving one of those a shot - specs look good for me...

Good ol' sports direct - where would we be without them!

 

[tomas9848]

is it the same as the aerogel 200?????

 

[dadozen]

I also didn't find any stability issues with my 300Ts. They are far more stable than my old PStorms.

People do find some issues with the SS place, so they add a little lead @ 12 or string it with full poly to make it play better. I personally like to string the crosses tighter to make the SS narrower and longer, so I can hit higher on the stringbed with no problems.

 

[Staiger]

I can speak to the AG300 Tour. There is no stability issue. I played twice yesterday with mine, and from a stability standpoint, it was as stable as my AG100. It lacks the plough of a frame like the C10, but it allows more racquet head speed which more than makes up for it. I find the frame to play much heavier than its weight.

There is no stability issue with the racket , as it is one of the lighter racket many assume their is a problem with the balance.:evil: Maybe abit of lead around 12 would solve the common myth ,but I find the racket had a perfect blend of power and control

 

[DavidGarcia]

Guys,

I've been playing a bit more these days with the 300 tour and I am starting to get used to it although I still miss the head speed from the 300 16x18 (being more head light).

How could I make the tour feel more like the 16x18? Would adding weight to the handle/grip really crew up the racket?

Any suggestions/ideas?

 

[neverstopplaying]

Guys,

I've been playing a bit more these days with the 300 tour and I am starting to get used to it although I still miss the head speed from the 300 16x18 (being more head light).

How could I make the tour feel more like the 16x18? Would adding weight to the handle/grip really crew up the racket?

Any suggestions/ideas?

This won't help you now, but in the future, don't buy Tour versions. Buy regular sticks (or even Team versions) and add lead wherever necessary.

I did this with the M-fil 300 and with Pure Storms. It is beyond me why knowledgeable players buy Tour versions, UNLESS they know without doubt that the stock specs are either fine or they will want to add weight.

 

[dadozen]

Wow, this thread can't be in the 4th page!

Today I'll string two of my racquets with a full BA Micro stringjob. I'll drop the tension a bit, to 56/59, and then test it tomorrow. I'm very excited to test it.

I'll post impressions as soon as possible.

 

[shell]

Guys,

I've been playing a bit more these days with the 300 tour and I am starting to get used to it although I still miss the head speed from the 300 16x18 (being more head light).

How could I make the tour feel more like the 16x18? Would adding weight to the handle/grip really crew up the racket?

Any suggestions/ideas?

DavidG, this will be an interesting experiment. Take the weight and balance of both the 16x18 and the tour. Match them the best you can by adding weight to the lighter and trying to hit the balance.

I'm curious what you find. To me, it seems they will feel pretty different. But at least you should be able to come close in weight and balance.

 

[Deleted member 25923]

This thread is like the younger brother of the AG100s!

Dunlop is the best.

 

[DavidGarcia]

I can now say that I have all the 300 models. The aerogel 300 16x19, the 16x18 and the tour 18x20.

To my taste I'd list them as (based on overall performance to my game):
1- 16x18
2- 16x19
3- 18x20

 

[DavidGarcia]

Prices for the old aerogel have gone down a lot!

Can anyone compare the 300 16x18 with the aerogel 200 16x19 or mfill 200 16x19?

The specs seem to be the same a part from the string pattern.

Shell,

any chance you have played with both?

 

[rlau]

This is a fake, right?

Got this today:

http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _001.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _002.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _003.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _004.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _005.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _006.jpg

Have a close look at the bridge and buttcap. This must be a fake...

Looks like I have been conned....

 

[dadozen]

Got this today:

http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _001.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _002.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _003.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _004.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _005.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _006.jpg

Have a close look at the bridge and buttcap. This must be a fake...

Looks like I have been conned....

looks like a junior racquet, although I've never seen it before.

 

[shell]

Got this today:

http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _001.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _002.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _003.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _004.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _005.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _006.jpg

Have a close look at the bridge and buttcap. This must be a fake...

Looks like I have been conned....

Looks that way, sorry to say. The cover says 300 Twenty, and I have never seen that racquet before. I suppose it could be a junior racquet. Try to get your money back, because you can get legit AG 300s cheap now.

 

[shell]

Prices for the old aerogel have gone down a lot!

Can anyone compare the 300 16x18 with the aerogel 200 16x19 or mfill 200 16x19?

The specs seem to be the same a part from the string pattern.

Shell,

any chance you have played with both?

DavidG, I have had some brief hits with the mfill 200 plus (16x19) because a couple of my hitting partners use it. From memory, they play similar to our 16x18s, but it has been a while for me to remember exact details. I've not hit the AG 200 16x19. I think the mfil mold is similar to the new 300Tour, and the specs are similar to the AG 300 16x18.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

 

[hyogen]

AG200 aint too bad as well, but it lack the power . I tried to tune the 200 up but with no success, I used lead tapes , different tension/ hybrid strings and o/r grips . The 200 is definitely better for serve and if you prefer to dominate the point from the back of courts ; but it certainly lack the maneuverability for my game ! I cant wait for the AG 4D 300 (what a mouthful) to be out !!!! I heard it has a perfect balance of control and power ! Does anyone have a picture and spec (if different) for the racquet !!

wow...that's awesome! who'd you hear that from????

 

[hyogen]

i really like the 300 myself. I can be more precise and go for lines more with the 200, though. I probably play most consistently with the 300...so I may just end up with a new aerogel 300.. problem is there aren't any more 16x19 in the grip i want

I have an old m-fil 300 that i've liked in the past...