Best arm friendly players racquet?

kailash

Hall of Fame
Read several posts and collected some info about best arm friendly racquets. Here is the list, definitely not complete; just added the ones referred more frequently, not in any specific order:

Prince EXO3 Tour 100
ProKennex 5G
ProKennex 7G
ProKennex Redondo C MP
Volkl Organix 10 MP
Volkl C10 Pro
Volkl V1 Classic
Pacific X Feel Pro 95

Though some of these have higher stiffness ratings, technologies built-in to those absorb the vibrations like in ProKennex Kinetic or Volkl biosensor handle systems.

If you are playing with any of these for a long time or switched from these to something else, please share your experiences.

October 23, 2015:

Now that I have play tested most of these and with Crocodile's and other users feedback, updating the list; again not in any specific order, but the ones in the top half are time tested or the best of the best!

- ProKennex 7G/5G
- Volkl C 10 Pro
- Volkl Super G 10 MP 325
- Pacific X Feel Pro 95
- Head Pro Tour 630
- ProKennex Ki 5 315/Ki 5X
- Volkl V1 Pro MP
- ProKennex Redondo MP
- ProKennex Q Tour 325
- Yonex V Core HG 330
- Babolat Pure Control 95/Pure Control Tour
- Prince Textreme Tour 95
- Becker Delta Core Melbourne
- Head Microgel MP/OS (with added weights)
- Prince EXO3 Tour (with added weights)
- Dunlop Biomimetic 200 18/20
 
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Ramon

Legend
The racquet I've been using the most for the last 3 years is the Pro Kennex Ki 5x. I've never used the 7G, so I can't compare, but I can say I've compared my racquet to a lot of big name frames out there, and for me it stacks up with the best. The closest I can compare it to is the Wilson Six.One 95 16x18. They play almost the same, but the Ki 5x is more comfortable and has the extra 0.5" length which helps on serves and reaching for overheads and volleys.

I also played extensively with the Prince Tour 98 ESP, which is even more arm-friendly than the Ki 5x. In fact, I can even play with full stiff poly on the Tour 98 ESP. The Tour 98 ESP has more spin and swings easier, but the Ki 5x is more powerful and has more plow. In fact, you cannot get equal plow from the Tour 98 ESP even by adding enough lead to make it heavier. I switched back to the Ki 5x because of the power, plow, and strings breaking less often.
 

smirker

Hall of Fame
I play with the regular Ki5 as per my SIG. I can attest to its arm friendly nature. It plays well too. Solid in all areas but not outstanding in any. I keep it so I have a backup when my elbow flares up.
 

Joonas

Semi-Pro
There are differencies between frames for sure. But remember few basics:
-more mass - les vibrations
-the more head light the better for arm

Last point is especially crucial for me. And it also normally leads to higher static mass as you still need some weight in the hoop to get ball flying and more weight in the handle to ensure HL.

I don't know but would assume APD to be much better for arm with static weight of 350g and balance less than 32cm.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Prince EXO3 Tour 100 (16x18) is by far the most arm friendly racket on your list. Open pattern, EXO3 ports, nice weight and SW, headlight, thin beam.
 
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kailash

Hall of Fame
Prince EXO3 Tour 100 (16x18) is by far the most arm friendly racket on your list. Open pattern, EXO3 ports, nice weight and SW, headlight, thin beam.

This is the only racket I was able to demo from that list so far. It is very arm friendly and maneuverable. So, getting two for my son.

Now I am thinking on whether to weigh this up or try others which are already on the 12 oz range. Anyone could compare weighed up EXO3 Tour to ProKennex or Volkl rackets which are already on the 12 oz+ side?
 

Chico

Banned
There are differencies between frames for sure. But remember few basics:
-more mass - les vibrations
-the more head light the better for arm


Last point is especially crucial for me. And it also normally leads to higher static mass as you still need some weight in the hoop to get ball flying and more weight in the handle to ensure HL.

I don't know but would assume APD to be much better for arm with static weight of 350g and balance less than 32cm.

Pretty much this.
 

John Z.

Semi-Pro
Prince Tour 100 (both 16x19 & 18x20) as well as their previous EXO3 versions are exceptionally soft on the arm. At 100 sq inch head size and 11.7oz strung weight i'm not sure we can say that they are typical "players sticks"... but they are definitely very good and extremely spin friendly rackets that are next to none as far as arm friendliness is concerned.
 

AHJS

Professional
would yall consider the blade 93 an arm friendly stick? because if it is that would be a nice players stick to add
 

Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
Of those, the 5g is probably the easiest on the arm. However, Pro Kennex had another racket that was even easier on the arm. It was the Asymmetric 95 sq in, black (or dark blue) and gold frame. It was very flexible, solid feeling and super easy on the arm.
 
you dont have on your list VOLKL V1 pro

Volkl and ProKennex are the most arm friendly racquets as far as I am concerned. some people might have different experiences.

I had TE with other brands ( Wilson and Yonex) and always comes back to Volkl. When I had first TE with Wilson, I bought Volkl Organix 10 and my arm was completely healed so I endeavored different racquet to see if I can play better with so I bought Yonex. Bam... within 2 weeks I developed another TE. I sold it right away. I came back to Volkl Organix 10 again. it took longer time to heal this time. Finally it went away. Thank you Lord Jesus... OMG I worried a lot since it was not going away fast enough. Now I am staying with Organix 10 and new V1 Pro.
I am sure that it is not all of Wilson or Yonex racquets are bad for arm. It was just one of racquets I used was bad for me. I am sure they have some good ones too for arm. I just don't know which one.
Also most important thing is good technique which is more important than choosing racquets. Of course, until we develop good technique we need definitely arm friendly racquet
 
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mctennis

Legend
Here's my assessment of the racquets you mentioned:

Prince EXO3 Tour 100- thought it was a little harsh on the arm
ProKennex 5G- very nice on the arm
ProKennex 7G- never tried, sorry
ProKennex Redondo C MP- harsh on the arm
Volkl Organix 10 MP- nice on the arm, great control
Volkl C10 Pro- nice on the arm, great control
Volkl V1 Classic- excellent on the arm
Pacific X Feel Pro 95- harsh on the arm
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
The most arm-friendly racket I have ever tried is the Pro Kennex QTour 295. It is very smooth, yet it has a more solid response than the EXO3 Tour, despite the lighter weight. The PK also is superiour to the EXO3 Tour on serve, and is equally spin friendly on groundstrokes, and a little more powerful. The EXO3 shines a little more around the net, I think. It is really superb on volleys.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Similar experiences with Volkl here. I've enjoyed their C10 for several years and I've never had any arm issues, even when keeping a very busy schedule of playing, teaching, and coaching. I'm not a poly user, but love these frames strung with snug syn. gut. I also hit a one-handed backhand, which has made my arm more grumpy in the past when using stiffer racquets.

Also loving their somewhat lighter Organix 10 325g. Mine are tuned for more stability and head-light balance, which dramatically improved both their performance and comfort. Without the hoop-flex that comes with the C10, this O10 doesn't quite seem to match that supreme arm-friendliness, but it's more than acceptable for me.
 
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Chotobaka

Hall of Fame
What, really? :confused:

Ditto. I thought the EXO3 Tour 100 was like a shot of Novocain. I liked all that free power and could generate lots of spin -- I just couldn't get past the disconnected, numb feel. Not even a hint of harshness.
 
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Ramon

Legend
Ditto. I thought the EXO3 Tour 100 was like a shot of Novocain. I liked all that free power and could generate lots of spin -- I just couldn't get past the disconnected, numb feel. Not even a hint of harshness.

He must have been playing with a dead poly demo or something. The EXO3 Tour 100 is super arm-friendly. I didn't care for the trampoline effect, particularly with soft strings. I get better control with other racquets.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
I am currently testing many of the racquets you have mentioned. I have strung each one with Bi-phase 1.24 at 50 lbs. So far this is what my initial impressions where as far as arm friendliness:
1. Best overall is the Prince Tour 100 16/18. Its got the lowest flex, open string pattern and 100 head size. As a racquet it could be a little heavier and flex does suck some energy out of the ball. A low tension in natural gut would make this racquet quite powerful.
2. Second I would go with the 5G, in terms of comfort but pretty bland racquet to use. If you have tennis elbow or shoulder problems, and your focus is on comfort, this would be a good choice. The 7G I have not hit for a while but it seems a more powerful version of the same racquet.
3. In third place I would go with the C10 and Redondo as pretty close to each other. The C10 is much better to play with, I felt the feel of the Redondo takes some time to get used to it. For some people however would find the C10 too heavy on their shoulder. I do think its more comfortable than the organix series of racquets.
4. The Pacific X Feel pro is a very comfortable racquet, but you need to be very skilled to use it. I customized mine with a leather grip and lead at 9 and 3 to get the best out of this frame. The feel is fantastic, very addictive, but it takes time to get used to.
5. The V1 classic is very comfortable but I think it was way too light. For someone who likes light sticks would put this around 3rd.
6 Other racquets that impressed me so far that I would include:
A. Yonex HG V Core (Stan's stick) more comfortable than the Super G 10's and a great choice for high level players exposed to heavy hitting. Great racquet.
B. Volkl V1 Pro better choice than classic V1, very comfortable
C. Dunlop Biomimetic 200 for players who want a great control frame with great feel. If you want an 18/20 frame, this is it. Honorable mention to Prince Rebel 95 and Pro Kennex Q Tour.
D. Volkl Super G 4 for senior players
E. Volkl Organix 7 and Tecnifibre 320 for players who would normally buy Babolat Pure Drives and stiff players frame along with the Dunlop F2.0
While I have only started testing these frames I will hope to gather more information and post them as thoughts come to mind. Couple of racquets that I have not hit with and would like anyone who has an experience to comment on are:
1. The Power Angle Ace of Diamonds - The manufacturer claims to reduce vibration by 40 %. Can anyone shed some light on this frame.
 

tchung4

Banned
I am currently testing many of the racquets you have mentioned. I have strung each one with Bi-phase 1.24 at 50 lbs. So far this is what my initial impressions where as far as arm friendliness:
1. Best overall is the Prince Tour 100 16/18. Its got the lowest flex, open string pattern and 100 head size. As a racquet it could be a little heavier and flex does suck some energy out of the ball. A low tension in natural gut would make this racquet quite powerful.
2. Second I would go with the 5G, in terms of comfort but pretty bland racquet to use. If you have tennis elbow or shoulder problems, and your focus is on comfort, this would be a good choice. The 7G I have not hit for a while but it seems a more powerful version of the same racquet.
3. In third place I would go with the C10 and Redondo as pretty close to each other. The C10 is much better to play with, I felt the feel of the Redondo takes some time to get used to it. For some people however would find the C10 too heavy on their shoulder. I do think its more comfortable than the organix series of racquets.
4. The Pacific X Feel pro is a very comfortable racquet, but you need to be very skilled to use it. I customized mine with a leather grip and lead at 9 and 3 to get the best out of this frame. The feel is fantastic, very addictive, but it takes time to get used to.
5. The V1 classic is very comfortable but I think it was way too light. For someone who likes light sticks would put this around 3rd.
6 Other racquets that impressed me so far that I would include:
A. Yonex HG V Core (Stan's stick) more comfortable than the Super G 10's and a great choice for high level players exposed to heavy hitting. Great racquet.
B. Volkl V1 Pro better choice than classic V1, very comfortable
C. Dunlop Biomimetic 200 for players who want a great control frame with great feel. If you want an 18/20 frame, this is it. Honorable mention to Prince Rebel 95 and Pro Kennex Q Tour.
D. Volkl Super G 4 for senior players
E. Volkl Organix 7 and Tecnifibre 320 for players who would normally buy Babolat Pure Drives and stiff players frame along with the Dunlop F2.0
While I have only started testing these frames I will hope to gather more information and post them as thoughts come to mind. Couple of racquets that I have not hit with and would like anyone who has an experience to comment on are:
1. The Power Angle Ace of Diamonds - The manufacturer claims to reduce vibration by 40 %. Can anyone shed some light on this frame.

just wondering..how much time did you spend by use each of those racquet you mentioned?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
just wondering..how much time did you spend by use each of those racquet you mentioned?

Hi Tchung, basically I work 7 days a week (40 hours) in the industry coaching tennis and get a chance to hit with many frames. I am working on standardizing a procedure to compare racquets not just by myself but with various players I work with to get some consensus. What various players feel with their arms is a personal thing to a degree. Depending on ones playing style, age and generation have quite a bearing on opinion. The other thing to consider is the concept of "comfort". For example, some racquets that maybe comfortable for eliminating tennis elbow because of their weight, may still hurt your shoulder. Now if you stress your shoulder, there is a good chance that you compound this problem by transferring load to your elbow. Wayne Arthurs once commented at a coaches conference that he developed golfers elbow and had to take 11 months off to improve his shoulder stability to improve his elbow problem.
I look forward to posting some findings once I am fully satisfied with the testing I've done. So far I am in no doubt that lot of the racquets that I tested that had a stiffness rating in the 50's like the Prince, coupled with an open string pattern are extremely comfortable. Volkl's and Pacific/Fischer handle technologies are superb, and Pro Kennex's kinetic systems works very well.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Just come off court comparing the Prince Tour 100 16/18 and Kennex ki5 295 and my impressions at present still rate the Prince slightly softer of the 2 but the trade off with the prince is that you need to work a bit harder to finish the point. The Ki 5 allows you to finish the point quicker as its easier to generate both power and accuracy. Both however are not as stable as the Yonex VCore 97 HG when you start to play with better players and it is here where this racquet becomes the proven performer, so things are not always that simple.
 

huba01

New User
I´ve hit extensively with the Tour 100 16/18 and yes, its super arm friendly. Nevertheless, I find the 100t ESP equal arm friendly and overall more versatile. Even a stiff string at 60 Lb doesn´t bother my sensitive shoulder in the esp 100t
 

KaiserW

Hall of Fame
I do not have direct experience with the PK 5G but I know 4 guys that all had shoulder or elbow pain and they swear by these racquets.
 

lstewart

Semi-Pro
I am playing the Pacific X-Feel 95 and really like it. I've got elbow and wrist issues, and the Pacific is very arm friendly for me. I've got lead tape added at 3 and 9 o'clock. I am stringing it with poly mains at 53, and multi crosses at 56. It took a while to get used to it and tune it in with string and tension, but I really like it now.
 

loosegroove

Hall of Fame
The most arm-friendly racket I have ever tried is the Pro Kennex QTour 295. It is very smooth, yet it has a more solid response than the EXO3 Tour, despite the lighter weight. The PK also is superiour to the EXO3 Tour on serve, and is equally spin friendly on groundstrokes, and a little more powerful. The EXO3 shines a little more around the net, I think. It is really superb on volleys.

I'll respectfully disagree with this post. I didn't find the Q TOUR to be more arm friendly, more powerful, or have equal access to spin. Though different strokes for different folks. Maybe that's the case if you hit a more traditional flatter ball?
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
I'll respectfully disagree with this post. I didn't find the Q TOUR to be more arm friendly, more powerful, or have equal access to spin. Though different strokes for different folks. Maybe that's the case if you hit a more traditional flatter ball?

I do agree that playing style and level do play a major role. For me, the higher the level of play and in particular the power being produced I found that the heavier sticks were more arm friendly. For example when the weight of shot became heavier I found the C10 and Yonex V Core HG became very comfortable racquets. On the other hand when I was hitting with a recreational player then the kI5 with it soft feel and maneuverability became an asset and the heavier sticks became hard work. The Prince while extremely soft to play with is still probably a bit light against bigger hitters

Hitting style will create differences in opinion. The linear hitter will enjoy the comfort offered by heavier sticks while modern players may appreciated the lighter stiffer products.

Its obvious that more research and testing over a long term will clarify one way or another as to what is right.
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
I'll respectfully disagree with this post. I didn't find the Q TOUR to be more arm friendly, more powerful, or have equal access to spin. Though different strokes for different folks. Maybe that's the case if you hit a more traditional flatter ball?

I actually think Q Tour is a lot more arm friendly, because it has a more stabile response outside the sweet spot. I find the EXO3 Tour suprisingly unstable outside the sweet spot, despite more weight and bigger hoop (especially unstable in the upper part). Q Tour is more powerful than EXO3 Tour, from my experince the Q Tour has a more dynamic power level than The EXO3. Spin-wise, the EXO3 gets the edge, but it's very close. I am really surprised at the amount of spin the Q Tour can produce. The EXO3 may offer easier access to spin? EXO3 does provide better level of control, by far.

Racquets always behave differently in our different hands, though :)

I should point out that I have played with both these racquets for months, so this is not based on a single test. I have used them with many different types of strings, have played matches with them at my level (4.5 - 5.0). The Q Tour cured my elbow issues. I have now moved on to a heavier frame with a more solid feel at impact, POG 100, that does not flutter on off center shots, and allows me to hit through the ball, which in my experience is one of the main reasons for pain in the elbow (which certaintly may be debatable as a statement, but that's my experience, and Crocodile's, if I interpret you correctly).

Best advice is to try many racquets, try them with the strings you prefer, and try them for more than one session. I also do believe the string is an equally important consideration, again debatable... :)

By the end of the day it is very subjective what suits your style of play and your physical body.
 
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tennisjon

Professional
I play with the Pro Kennex Ki-5. It is a very arm friendly player's racquet. The older generations (5g, 7g) are even more so. I have very sensitive wrists, so playing with an arm friendly racquet is a must for me. Other racquets that work for me are the Babolat Pure Control Tour, Yonex Ai98, and the Prince EX03 Tour. The Volkl 10 lines have been good in the past, as have Pacific/Fischer frames, but both are quite low powered.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
The good old classic Head Pro Tour 280/630 should be on that list too.

Yes the classic head racquets with twin tube technology, made in Austria were very comfortable sticks including Pro Tours' and Satellite Tours. There current range is not as comfortable. Unfortunately these days the 50's RA racquets are quite rare, the low 60,s becoming rare and now the low 70,s becoming quite common. The question is whether the lay up of modern graphite along with comfort technologies is up to the job. Volkl's V1 Pro in particular is one racquet in the high 60's is an attemp to achieve this along with Yonex's AI 100. The Organix 7 is definately a new thing for Volk in producing a racquet with an RA of 74 with a very thick beam and handle technology. Will this become the norm by 2016. It will be interesting to see the data of arm injuries from generation Z players when they hit middle age with their modern swings plus poly and Pure Drives. It's quite interesting to note that the original mild for the pure drive was from pro Kennex with their destiny and heritage series racquet, however in those times you could get a composite and ceramic destiny which were much softer to use.
 

JustTennis76

Hall of Fame
I am planning to demo the Volkl C10 pro and the Volkl PowerBridge 10 mid. I heard these are very arm friendly. that's why I am demoing them.
 

LeeD

Bionic Poster
Anything 60 flex or softer is arm friendly.
But, strings and tension make up for more than 50 % of the equation.
String a APD, stiffness 70, at 30 lbs, and it's somewhat arm friendly.
 
I am playing the Pacific X-Feel 95 and really like it. I've got elbow and wrist issues, and the Pacific is very arm friendly for me. I've got lead tape added at 3 and 9 o'clock. I am stringing it with poly mains at 53, and multi crosses at 56. It took a while to get used to it and tune it in with string and tension, but I really like it now.

My experience is similar to yours... string setup matters for the xfp95. I use relatively powerful and soft on the arm polys (Yonex Poly Tour pro 1.25 black mains crossed with weiscannon scorpion 1.22 at 46 lbs). I could even use it without a vibration dampner. So few players sticks these days (especially 95's) are this demanding/rewarding performance oriented.

Glad you liked the Dunlop Bio 200 as a 18x20 option... it is s sweet comfy stick. I haveto say that the pacific x feel pro 95 plays like an 18x20 but spins like a 16 x 19. Did you try the Pacific x force pro... with an upper 50's RA a 16 x 20 pattern and 98 headsize it is kinda unique.

Here's my assessment of the racquets you mentioned:
ProKennex Redondo C MP- harsh on the arm
Pacific X Feel Pro 95- harsh on the arm

really... admittedly the x Feel pro 95 has a mid's sweetspot on a midplus and that might seem harsh if you dont find it... its a little higher up than most frames. Perhaps the strings? All I know is I can play full poly with it and most other frames I cant. It also lets me play like Im using a mid... accuracy wise I aim for lines. I generate a lot of power in all sides so that's not a problem.

surprised no one mentions the mg radical at stiffness 57, maybe you guys think it is a tweener?

absolutely deserves mention
 
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Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
Just some further updates and thoughts about this thread. In the last week I have just spent about 30 hours teaching and hitting on court with a variety of players. For the first 3 days I used the Prince Tour 100 16/18 frame. I tried it in stock form with a hybrid poly main and multi crosses set up, then in custom form with weight in the handle and at 9 and 3 with NXT Tour 1.24 at 50lbs. In the next 3 days I used the Volkl Super G 10 325 with Biphase 1.24 at 50lbs. My impressions were as follows:
1. The Prince in either set up has the softer impact on the string bed, but to be honest from an arm safe point of view the benefits were nullified because I felt this racquet rather imprecise and hard work and frustrating as well. The feel is not an enjoyable experience, and to my surprise the hybrid set up seemed to be more enjoyable.
The Volkl Super G 10 325 gets better the more you use it and my arm felt less fatigued. The power, feel and control are quite simply superb and my arm was great. Volkl's handle system is a great innovation.
At present my thoughts are that racquet flex in itself should not be seen as the only criteria in judging how healthy a racquet is to your arm. If the racquet is too flexy, you will lose a lot of energy back on the ball, the frame tends to be less stable as well.
I'm also of the view that I would like to play with a racquet that firstly feels great to use as a first priority, and then see if it works with my arm. At present the racquets that do this for me in order of preference right now are:
1. Volkl C 10 Pro
2. Volkl Super G 10 mp 325
3. Pacific X Feel Pro 95
4. Yonex V Core HG 330 and Pro Kennex Q Tour 325
5. Head Pro Tour 630 and Dunlop Bio 200 18/20
6. Volkl V1 Pro mp
7. Pro Kennex Redondo mp and Ki 5 315
 

tmc5005

Rookie
My current list of top 10 arm friendly racquets includes
Yonex EZone Ai 98
HEAD YT Graphene Prestige Pro
PACIFIC X Feel Pro 95
Prince Tour Pro 98
Prince Tour 98 ESP
Pro Kennex Kinetic KI5 315
Technifibre 2013 Tflight 315 16M LTD
Volkl Power Bridge-10 Mid (93)
Volkl Organix 10 325G
WILSON 2014 Pro Staff 95S
 

Cesare

Semi-Pro
Modern Racquets? I would go with the Volkl Organix 8 Super G 315. From the list, i take the V1 Classic by far
 
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jonestim

Hall of Fame
What about the new Prince Tour 100 18x20??

It isn't AS arm friendly as the 16x18 pattern, but it is still really good compared to most. I felt that the 18x20 was good with just about every string type I tried - full poly, gut/poly, poly/syn gut, full syn, and a multi. I felt that the 16x18 really only shined for me with full poly. I've considered hunting another one down - I only sold my last one because I have gone down in grip size.
 

SJSA

Professional
Modern Racquets? I would go with the Volkl Organix 8 Super G 315. From the list, i take the V1 Classic by far

Its stiffness rate is too high even though it is still comfortable.
It can't be listed in best arm-friendly racquets.
 
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Alien

Hall of Fame
Problem with open patterns is that they require a thick poly eventually bothering the arm. I was soo happy with my Wilson Juice 100s, now after 10 months playing my elbow has started to kill me for the first time in my life... my tennis is peaking at the same time so I dont want to change the weaponry, not sure what I will do.
 

JustTennis76

Hall of Fame
Its stiffness rate is too high even though it is still comfortable.
It can't be listed in best arm-friendly racquets.

Agree - The super G 8 is comfortable for me despite its high stiffness because it has outstanding dampening technology with biosensor pin in the handle, super grommets, vsponse material, etc, good enough mass(strung weight), good head light balance and lastly an arm friendly string as a full bed. I recently switched to this racket and happy with it. It is not a super arm-friendly racket but not an arm-killer either.
 

robbo1970

Hall of Fame
A lot of mentions about the Prince Tour 100. Is that a players racquet or a tweener.....I'm never sure.

Doesn't seem to be any mentions for the Prince Tour 95. I think that meets the arm friendly, players racquet criteria.
 
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