Sampras, 6'1", platform technique, more power than Fed, DJ, or Murray.
How is that possible?
Modified racquet. Very heavy.And with PS 85.
Of course, 100 mph isn't that hard... now 115-120 might be a different story...
I think he was stringing at 70-75 lb. Do you recall his tension, or what string he was using???I sat down and talked to Pete at Trans Am SF.
Any idiot can belt a ball, the trick is to be able to do it with consistency, variety and movement.As for the unicorn of 100mph, I regularly play guys from high 3.5 to 4.0+ that serve 95 average and upwards to 110. The doubters always ask and people post match videos in the past, and then everyone does those frame calculations and it usually averages out to somewhere around those ranges. From my match play experience it is more common than not, and not really too magical.
A bit off topic, but seeing as the topic was comprehensively answered in the first 2 posts I won’t feel too bad.
Anyone tried this cheap radar product that’s popped up recently? This is AUD so it should be only around $140 or so USD maybe if available over there? I wonder if it’s accurate and reliable. If they are getting that cheap it would be very easy for clubs (or even nerdy individuals) to have one handy to really see what numbers people are getting.
Serve speed goes up with swingweight, won't hit 100 mph serves consistently with weak rackets. No matter the height
No point in comparing Pros to average players.I think that is overrated, yeah a bit heavier racket is better if you have power but I'm pretty sure raonic could serve 120+ with a grandpa racket like a Ti S6.
Can I serve 100 mph as someone that is under 6 feet? No I cannot. But it's more related to age and a surgically reconstructed shoulder.
Can someone else under 6 feet serve 100 mph? Most certainly. But they'd need more jam in their legs to elevate into the ball than I've got. And more shoulder ROM than I have.
The more interesting question is whether someone under 6 feet can patty cake a flat serve at 100 mph. At what point does the angles and physics not work for a completely flat serve?
considering that such a huge second serve would be about 10mph faster than that of ATP pro Schwartzman (or countless others) I find that totally believable....At 5-11, 100 MPH easy. Used to be 110 to 115 before hamstring got torn off my but. After the injury I’ve had hard time passing 172 k on flat first serve.
Since then knee broke down and collar bone broke in three. Luckily enough that was only the tossing arm.
Regular slice second serve is 90-95-ish. but it is not only the ball speed making a good serve. Placement and spins are even more significant aspects. And the more versatile you are tossing the same gives an advantage.
Yup. Just like weight lifting. If your max limit on a deadlift is 500 pounds, even adding a measly 5 more pounds is huge.And it's not a linear difference: yes, a 125mph serve is technically 25% faster than a 100mph serve but once the returner reaches the limit of his reactions, only a few more mph will be the tipping point and he'll cease to be able to effectively return the serve.
Probably not, but it clearly shows 5'9 - 5'10 males are really grasping at straws if they're blaming their height on a weak serve.But can she hit 60% in match play?
I know Serena is a pro, but I would think 5.0 men are stronger/equally strong as pro women. Serena is 5'9 and can hit 110-115 consistently on her serve with 60-70% percentage on her best days.Don't know any 5'10:+ males crying they're too short to hit 130 mph.
What they cry about is they're too short to hit a high percentage at 125+.
2 different things.
Probably not, but it clearly shows 5'9 - 5'10 males are really grasping at straws if they're blaming their height on a weak serve.
Serena plays with WTA tennis balls, lighter and less knapsack than ATP balls.I know Serena is a pro, but I would think 5.0 men are stronger/equally strong as pro women. Serena is 5'9 and can hit 110-115 consistently on her serve with 60-70% percentage on her best days.
The key is good technique, but extended length and high SW also helps. Serena uses a 28 inch racket.
Serena plays with WTA tennis balls, lighter and less knapsack than ATP balls.
While Serena is indeed a mere 5'9" or so, she is around 185 lbs, often more, and stronger than most 5.0 men.
I'd venture to say she has played WTA events very close to 200 lbs.
Yes, she is fat.
But a nearly 200 lbs fat person can still serve pretty darn fast.
Did I say she was a great direction changer?
Did I say she was a long distance runner?
She is an explosive athlete who doesn't lose serve speed from being fat.
And super strong!
I know Serena is a pro, but I would think 5.0 men are stronger/equally strong as pro women. Serena is 5'9 and can hit 110-115 consistently on her serve with 60-70% percentage on her best days.
The key is good technique, but extended length and high SW also helps. Serena uses a 28 inch racket.
Dude, Serena weighs between 185 and two hundred pounds! And, she is quick and explosive.
I know Serena is a pro, but I would think 5.0 men are stronger/equally strong as pro women. Serena is 5'9 and can hit 110-115 consistently on her serve with 60-70% percentage on her best days.
The key is good technique, but extended length and high SW also helps. Serena uses a 28 inch racket.
It's not about weight, this is not wrestling, it's about muscle mass and strength. Read the study I linked. But really it's kind of ridiculous that we have to do studies about that stuff. Shows how little exercise we do in today's world.
Besides, serve is more about technique anyways, then heigth, and only then strength, imo.
Dude, Serena is not your average WTA player!
She is a one off, ultimate Alpha female.
I can throw baseballs over 100 mph... if I'm throwing them down from a 20 story building.Didn't Mariano Rivera THROW baseballs just over 100 mph?
Simona Halep at 5'6" is not known a powerhouse server. But even she has hit serves at 108 (and faster, I believe)I know Serena is a pro, but I would think 5.0 men are stronger/equally strong as pro women. Serena is 5'9 and can hit 110-115 consistently on her serve with 60-70% percentage on her best days.
The key is good technique, but extended length and high SW also helps. Serena uses a 28 inch racket.
Simona can hit around 108 mph as outlier fastest first serves but she averages around 97mph which means she probably hits at least 1/3 of first serves over 100mph as a tiny woman.Simona Halep at 5'6" is not known a powerhouse server. But even she has hit serves at 108 (and faster, I believe)
How Simona Halep dominated Serena Williams to win Wimbledon
The Romanian put in an unstoppable performance to win her second Grand Slam title. Here is where the match was won and lost.www.espn.com
Reminds me of someone I know who used to say that guys taller than him were faster runners because of their longer legs, and guys shorter than him were faster because they could move their shorter legs more quickly.Probably not, but it clearly shows 5'9 - 5'10 males are really grasping at straws if they're blaming their height on a weak serve.
Reminds me of someone I know who used to say that guys taller than him were faster runners because of their longer legs, and guys shorter than him were faster because they could move their shorter legs more quickly.