Cilic to expose federer false dawn

[Meles]

This is not some jinx thread against cilic.

Ive been saying since Miami federer has flattered to deceive and later i think cilic will tear him apart.

Cilic does everything bigger here now in 2017 and with federers cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.



With the obligatory false dawn intro it's time to get to the very heart of the matter. The TTW Federistas are in complete denial of the threat Cilic poses. From handwringerering at Auz now we have gross overconfidence in the face of all facts?(age, no return game on grass for years) This menace must be stopped:

Cilic must save tennis or this reign of terror may continue for years. Save us Marin. Don't let it end this way.

 

[metsman]

Federer win confirmed, thanks Meles.

 

[Thundergod]

A thread without stats?!

 

[Sirius Black]

As is tradition

 

[TennisATP]

OMG is that supposed to be sexy? lol Roger please stick to real suits:

 

[Meles]

A thread without stats?!

No just pure hatred of Fed at Wimbledon.

 

[BeatlesFan]

T
Cilic must save tennis or this reign of terror may continue for years.

Meles, I never knew until this moment that you sent out a similar prayer in Paris to Soderling in May, 2009!

 

[Meles]

OMG is that supposed to be sexy? lol Roger please stick to real suits.

Fed is far to pretentious for his own good and all started at Wimby. It must end here and now or he may never stop.

 

[sdont]

Fedr to expose Meles false dawn.

 

[Meles]

Meles, I never knew until this moment that you sent out a similar prayer in Paris to Soderling in May, 2009!

I enjoyed the deNadalization much more. Fed deserved an RG bone for all the titles Nadal denied him.

 

[Meles]

Fedr to expose Meles false dawn.

Keep denying. Cilic took Fed 5 sets last year and is playing better this year. He thumped Murray in Cincy. Destroyed all in his path at 2014 US Open. Marin is going to be hell on wheels and Fed is going to have to do better than that fifth set at Auz if he wants this.

 

[sdont]

Meles, you should instead thank Fed for taking out the trash in the SF.

 

[Nostradamus]

I enjoyed the deNadalization much more. Fed deserved an RG bone for all the titles Nadal denied him.

Nadal never expected to get anywhere at Wimby. he made the excuse that he didn't play well against Muller, but what did he expect ? didn't play any prep tournament for Grass.... Rafa just wanted to go fishing,, he didn't want to be criticized for skipping Wimby

 

[sdont]

Keep denying. Cilic took Fed 5 sets last year and is playing better this year. He thumped Murray in Cincy. Destroyed all in his path at 2014 US Open. Marin is going to be hell on wheels and Fed is going to have to do better than that fifth set at Auz if he wants this.

I was being facetious.

I agree that Cilic is dangerous. I saw both SFs.

Cilic is looking like a man possessed atm.

But now that you've made this thread, I feel more confident

 

[Thundergod]

Keep denying. Cilic took Fed 5 sets last year and is playing better this year. He thumped Murray in Cincy. Destroyed all in his path at 2014 US Open. Marin is going to be hell on wheels and Fed is going to have to do better than that fifth set at Auz if he wants this.

Maybe Fed can sneeze on Cilic at the net during coin toss so he can give him a cold too.

 

[sdont]

Keep denying. Cilic took Fed 5 sets last year and is playing better this year. He thumped Murray in Cincy. Destroyed all in his path at 2014 US Open. Marin is going to be hell on wheels and Fed is going to have to do better than that fifth set at Auz if he wants this.

better than that fifth set at Auz

 

[Meles]

Maybe Fed can sneeze on Cilic at the net during coin toss so he can give him a cold too.

He's had a cold? False dawn incoming.

 

[Meles]

Meles, you should instead thank Fed for taking out the trash in the SF.

Fed saved tennis for sure, but far too close for my liking.

 

[Gary Duane]

Since seeing Cilic's last match I partially agree with @Meles.

Not to the extent of predicting a win for Cilic but rather suggesting that perhaps the odds are around equal, and depending on how serious Fed's sinuses are it could tip things against him.

I had bad sinus problems for decades, and when the sinuses get really bad you don't sleep much.

A lot depends on how much the "sick" part are rumors vs the Fed camp trying to mask the truth.

No outcome tomorrow will surprise me. Betting on one or the other is a fool's bet at this point.

 

[Meles]

Nadal never expected to get anywhere at Wimby. he made the excuse that he didn't play well against Muller, but what did he expect ? didn't play any prep tournament for Grass.... Rafa just wanted to go fishing,, he didn't want to be criticized for skipping Wimby

The Muller match with Nadal reminds me of his run in with Djoko in Madrid for 4 hours on clay. Nadal preceded to lose RG and had to skip Wimby. Rafa may be fishing all Summer.

 

[tennisaddict]

If Fed loses no big deal as he got the AO over Rafa.

However if Fed wins , oh man .,, will not stop rubbing it in for the whole year

 

[Deleted member 743561]

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[Meles]

Since seeing Cilic's last match I partially agree with @Meles.

Not to the extent of predicting a win for Cilic but rather suggesting that perhaps the odds are around equal, and depending on how serious Fed's sinuses are it could tip things against him.

I had bad sinus problems for decades, and when the sinuses get really bad you don't sleep much.

A lot depends on how much the "sick" part are rumors vs the Fed camp trying to mask the truth.

No outcome tomorrow will surprise me. Betting on one or the other is a fool's bet at this point.

Well I think this might be a great match. Complete denial on here about the gravity of the situation. This is a troll thread of sorts designed to make Fed fans nervous. A good dose of reality will be good for some, or the fall may be too devastating.

If I bet, I'd bet on Cilic given the odds.

Will Federer's new backhand withstand the might of Cilic? His whole game and favorite status is due to that one shot and its impact on his return game. Just a house of cards waiting to fall potentially. Fed wins this and he's a favorite at Wimby for several more years. This is too much to believe.

 

[Gary Duane]

Well I think this might be a great match. Complete denial on here about the gravity of the situation. This is a troll thread of sorts designed to make Fed fans nervous. A good dose of reality will be good for some, or the fall may be too devastating.

If I bet, I'd bet on Cilic given the odds.

Will Federer's new backhand withstand the might of Cilic? His whole game and favorite status is due to that one shot and its impact on his return game. Just a house of cards waiting to fall potentially. Fed wins this and he's a favorite at Wimby for several more years. This is too much to believe.

My analysis is that Fed's return HAS been better this year.

But you have to weight that against his age and the fact that he may be sick.

I would not bet, but I don't anyway!

I very much want Fed to win, but I have to admit that the devil on my shoulder is thinking about how much fun it would be to see Fednatics eat a large meal of crow...

 

[Nostradamus]

The Muller match with Nadal reminds me of his run in with Djoko in Madrid for 4 hours on clay. Nadal preceded to lose RG and had to skip Wimby. Rafa may be fishing all Summer.

Nadal said he will play 2 warmup tourney in summer then US open and likely take the rest of the year off. but more likely he will just play 1 warmup and US open. and take the rest of the year off. that is probably wise thing to do unless he loses really early in that 1 warmup tourney

 

[Meles]

Heh, that photo shoot was so bizarre. Think I was so weirded out by it the first time I came across it, I didn't even notice the AO trophy. Can you even imagine something similar with the Wimby cup? I think the AELTC would take him to court.

Ahhh! Well AELTC should get some of his money from his whole brand which he really started at Wimby with those trophy acceptance getups. I must say though this is pretty bad ass:

 

[Deleted member 743561]

I prob shouldn't even be reading half of this drivel. I can't be the only Fed fan torn between absorbing all possible pre-match hype and tuning it out entirely until 1:59:59 Greenwich Mean Time.

 

[Deleted member 743561]

Ahhh! Well AELTC should get some of his money from his whole brand which he really started at Wimby with those trophy acceptance getups. I must say though this is pretty bad ass:

Ah, yes, the Jay Gatsby special. The F. Scott Fitzgerald estate is probably still collecting royalties.

 

[TheFifthSet]

Keep denying. Cilic took Fed 5 sets last year and is playing better this year. He thumped Murray in Cincy. Destroyed all in his path at 2014 US Open. Marin is going to be hell on wheels and Fed is going to have to do better than that fifth set at Auz if he wants this.

Lol, if Federer plays as well as he did in that fifth set, Cilic is toast.


Federer will likely win in 3-4 sets. I don't think he's gonna let it slip past him a fourth year in a row. We'll see.

 

[tennisaddict]

Well I think this might be a great match. Complete denial on here about the gravity of the situation. This is a troll thread of sorts designed to make Fed fans nervous. A good dose of reality will be good for some, or the fall may be too devastating.

If I bet, I'd bet on Cilic given the odds.

Will Federer's new backhand withstand the might of Cilic? His whole game and favorite status is due to that one shot and its impact on his return game. Just a house of cards waiting to fall potentially. Fed wins this and he's a favorite at Wimby for several more years. This is too much to believe.

Are you this crazy ? At 36 years age, nothing is a guarantee . Fed may fall off a cliff even if he wins tomorrow , starting the USO series and not even add one more title . And you somehow make it that this win guarantees Fed to be favorite for several more years ?

 

[Meles]

Are you this crazy ? At 36 years age, nothing is a guarantee . Fed may fall off a cliff even if he wins tomorrow , starting the USO series and not even add one more title . And you somehow make it that this win guarantees Fed to be favorite for several more years ?

He's just a huge favorite at USO which I've been saying was coming down the pike since middle of Auz Open.

The reality is that Federer is not going to fall off of some cliff any time soon. The speed decline now is very slow. Stamina should be great. Strength still great based on the serve numbers. Intellect amazing. It's all rather amazing and Djokoray aren't stopping him and Nadal's false dawn has been exposed on fast surfaces at Wimby. Murray has no chance. Djokovic's elbow and work ethic will keep him down a peg.

On the Nextgen front. Thiem will be hard pressed to stop Fed. Zverev is the only legit threat.

If Fed wins this tomorrow I think he's got a couple more Wimbledons in him. The success of the geriatrics this year has convinced me. If that backhand has brought back his prime return game on grass how is anyone going to stop that now?

 

[Meles]

Lol, if Federer plays as well as he did in that fifth set, Cilic is toast.


Federer will likely win in 3-4 sets. I don't think he's gonna let it slip past him a fourth year in a row. We'll see.

The overconfidence is not unfounded. Hopefully Marin pushes him to the need for that Auz greatness. I'll be surprised if Cilic doesn't bring it.

 

[Meles]

I prob shouldn't even be reading half of this drivel. I can't be the only Fed fan torn between absorbing all possible pre-match hype and tuning it out entirely until 1:59:59 Greenwich Mean Time.

We just haven't had a good drivel thread. All of the other big 3 fans living in glass houses, so leave it to NextGen Meles to cause foment. Honestly Fed playing great for years would be a treasure for these young players to have the chance to measure up.

 

[Deleted member 743561]

We just haven't had a good drivel thread. All of the other big 3 fans living in glass houses, so leave it to NextGen Meles to cause foment. Honestly Fed playing great for years would be a treasure for these young players to have the chance to measure up.

It actually came out wrong; by "this drivel," I wasn't referring to this thread, specifically. Place would be much less dynamic without your contributions. Just the overall content... some worthwhile, but almost wasted energy to sift for it on The Eve.

 

[frinton]

I think Fed will play lights out in the final! He was clearly not at his best against Berdy as soon as he got broken back in the first. Also he more than painfully remembers being blasted off the court at the USO in 14. He doesn't want that to happen again and will put his foot down right from the start. And he can. Aside from the cold he's fit and injury-free!
But who knows? Marin might come out firing on all cylinders like in 14... or he might show some nerves. It's his 2nd major final, the first at Wimbledon and the first against a top player.
As a Fed-fan I hope for Fed in 3, as a tennis fan I hope for an epic 5-setter in which the better player may win!


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[Al Czervik]

It's a good thread. I said to myself when Fed lost to Djoker in the 2014 Wimbledon final that his time for winning majors was over. The 2015 grand slam losses didn't hurt at all, I knew they were coming. This year's Oz was a gift from the gods, but at some point, you worry the 35 year old is going to show his age in one match over a fortnight. And, in this case, a 28 year old on his A game is ready to seize the opportunity.

 

[Meles]

It actually came out wrong; by "this drivel," I wasn't referring to this thread, specifically. Place would be much less dynamic without your contributions. Just the overall content... some worthwhile, but almost wasted energy to sift for it on The Eve.

We need more build up for this match. The handwringerer denial syndrome just is killing the build up.

Federer is old like Venus; it's ok.

 

[Meles]

It's a good thread. I said to myself when Fed lost to Djoker in the 2014 Wimbledon final that his time for winning majors was over. The 2015 grand slam losses didn't hurt at all, I knew they were coming. This year's Oz was a gift from the gods, but at some point, you worry the 35 year old is going to show his age in one match over a fortnight. And, in this case, a 28 year old on his A game is ready to seize the opportunity.

The view from 60,000 feet doesn't quite add up. If Fed trounces an in form Cilic tomorrow Christmas has come early for Fedfans this year. A sensational triumph is possible with ramifications for years to come.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Cilic humbled and hobbled in this match because as a Thiem fan Cilic is enemy number 1 in the rankings (and probably on the court.)

 

[Deleted member 743561]

We need more build up for this match. The handwringerer denial syndrome just is killing the build up.

Federer is old like Venus; it's ok.

I dunno what it is. Wouldn't call it apathy... but it's like the usual contenders have collectively fallen by the wayside. Fewer dogs in the fight (and possibly for the foreseeable future). Wouldn't call the match itself a foregone conclusion. But there is some irony that RF seems to have won the attritional struggle that most of his fans abhor. I'm reminded of an image that was floating around here for a while with all of the slumped carcasses of the legends rotting in the gutter while a beaming Djoker, bathed in holy light, strolled the Valley of Death.

 

[kabob]

Fedr to expose Meles false dawn.

His pet youngstars falling on their faces every time he hypes them up has exposed Meles far too much already. Please please let Meles hold onto his dignity even if he's walking around buck naked at this point from all the exposing

 

[Meles]

His pet youngstars falling on their faces every time he hypes them up has exposed Meles far too much already. Please please let Meles hold onto his dignity even if he's walking around buck naked at this point from all the exposing

I'm enjoying see the current false dawn thread and "Federer is being treated for acute sinusitis" thread side by side.

Kabob you know you'd rather have seen Zverev in place of Raonic and Thiem in place of Berdy for Fed's last Wimby matches; Fed schooling the youngstars was what this tournament needed (not RaoMug and Berdbrain doing the schooling

)

LOL. McEnroe said he told Raonic that this Zverev kid was going to be good and hard to beat in the future, but now was a different story. He got one more match out of Milosh once again.

 

[Deleted member 743561]

Bodo's final preview commences with the following utterance:

"It's Marin Cilic's turn again to ride the mechanical bull that is Roger Federer."

And with a hearty retch, I bid you all a pleasant evening. Lol, seriously, what a hook!

 

[TheFifthSet]

The overconfidence is not unfounded. Hopefully Marin pushes him to the need for that Auz greatness. I'll be surprised if Cilic doesn't bring it.

I dunno if it's overconfidence, it's just an acknowledgement of what the odds are. Surely if they played this match 100 times, Federer would win more often than not. I'm still nervous about the match, but Federer is in decent form, has the reserves to go 5 sets, wants it badly enough, and has the crowd behind him. I think it'll be enough.

 

[BigServer1]

I'm worried for Fed tomorrow. I have this sinking feeling that Cilic is going to win.

I really hope I'm wrong. Would love to be wrong.

 

[Get A Grip]

This is not some jinx thread against cilic.

Ive been saying since Miami federer has flattered to deceive and later i think cilic will tear him apart.

Cilic does everything bigger here now in 2017 and with federers cumbersome movement i can see him getting creamed in straight sets.



With the obligatory false dawn intro it's time to get to the very heart of the matter. The TTW Federistas are in complete denial of the threat Cilic poses. From handwringerering at Auz now we have gross overconfidence in the face of all facts?(age, no return game on grass for years) This menace must be stopped:

Cilic must save tennis or this reign of terror may continue for years. Save us Marin. Don't let it end this way.

These just get better and better! You have brought much merriment and laughter into my otherwise ho-hum wimbledon experience!

 

[Get A Grip]

I'm worried for Fed tomorrow. I have this sinking feeling that Cilic is going to win.

I really hope I'm wrong. Would love to be wrong.

Be very afraid!

 

[Get A Grip]

I dunno what it is. Wouldn't call it apathy... but it's like the usual contenders have collectively fallen by the wayside. Fewer dogs in the fight (and possibly for the foreseeable future). Wouldn't call the match itself a foregone conclusion. But there is some irony that RF seems to have won the attritional struggle that most of his fans abhor. I'm reminded of an image that was floating around here for a while with all of the slumped carcasses of the legends rotting in the gutter while a beaming Djoker, bathed in holy light, strolled the Valley of Death.

well put. Then the two caracasses resurrected and traded places with the stroller, who got kind of carcassy himself. It was interesting at first, except that the new strollers were each too dominant on their respective surfaces to allow for any competitive interest. Maybe we get some tomorrow?
This is why tennis needs Djok back.

 

[Get A Grip]

The view from 60,000 feet doesn't quite add up. If Fed trounces an in form Cilic tomorrow Christmas has come early for Fedfans this year. A sensational triumph is possible with ramifications for years to come.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Cilic humbled and hobbled in this match because as a Thiem fan Cilic is enemy number 1 in the rankings (and probably on the court.)

Now Meles, c'mon! It's not all about Thiem, do you want to have to see more hairy spreads on fake bear rugs? Huh? Do you????

 

[Meles]

Now Meles, c'mon! It's not all about Thiem, do you want to have to see more hairy spreads on fake bear rugs? Huh? Do you????

I really can't lose on this one; if both could somehow lose that would be best. Maybe Fed barely surviving five sets, aggravating his knee, and deciding to retire on the spot with his 8th Wimbledon. But no, I don't want that. We must have many historic showdowns with Thiem and Zverev:
1. Federer in the final of RG with Thiem
2. Zverev at Auz
3. Kyrgios(ok Zverev) at US Open.

Fedal vs. NextGen is what I want and grass season has not gotten the job done.

 

[kabob]

I'm enjoying see the current false dawn thread and "Federer is being treated for acute sinusitis" thread side by side.

Kabob you know you'd rather have seen Zverev in place of Raonic and Thiem in place of Berdy for Fed's last Wimby matches; Fed schooling the youngstars was what this tournament needed (not RaoMug and Berdbrain doing the schooling

)

LOL. McEnroe said he told Raonic that this Zverev kid was going to be good and hard to beat in the future, but now was a different story. He got one more match out of Milosh once again.

I definitely would if those two young dummies would learn how to construct points to play winning tennis and figure out how to accentuate their strengths. The difference between Zed Younger/Thiem and Rao/Berd is that the latter two are old hats at riding what limited talent they have as deep as they can get into Grand Slams.