Did Nadal have a chance to beat Djokovic here ?
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MugOpponent
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Highly unlikely but it's always possible Djokovic loses earlier in the tournament. He's actually been shakier earlier in these slams as of late.
He was not losing with the draw he had even if he tried hard .
The Blond Blur
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We’ll never know since it was Joker’s fault for going full Amor y Paz. Never go full Amor y Paz.
GabeT
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Sigh…We’ll never know since it was Joker’s fault for going full Amor y Paz. Never go full Amor y Paz.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Correct. Only vaccine refusal did.
WildRevolver
Hall of Fame
Medvedev blew Novak off the court and put him in tears the last time they met in a grand slam. Rafa just slapped Med. Therefore, and based on hardened transferable evidence, Rafa would beat Novak.
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
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Its all about matchups so probably not. Nadal is just a bad matchup for Med period. While Djoker is a nightmare for Rafa here... especially if nadal is serving like he did today
titoelcolombiano
Legend
Djoker would have won the AO had he played. I don't think either player showed enough last night to suggest they would have beaten him at his pet slam.
Open Stance
Professional
Not sure if the transitive property applies though. It's often about the match ups. If you look at the current "Big 3" of Djokovic, Medvedev and Nadal, Djokovic seems to match up poorly against Medvedev, Medvedev matches up poorly against Nadal and Nadal often matches up somewhat poorly against Djokovic. The last time Rafa and Novak played at AO, Djokovic destroyed him. I think it would have depended on what form Novak would have been in were he allowed to play. While this was a great win for Rafa, he never really looked great in this tournament so I think an in form Djokovic probably handles him comfortably.
Tennis_Freak99
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We never know. But that's why as tennis fans we should all hope that the best players play the biggest tournaments without injuries or intangibles coming in between
kailash
Hall of Fame
It is unfortunate that Djokovic could not play. But as others said, it is hard to predict what would have happened if he has also played.
Many matches were so close; just minor margins and matches could have gone in different ways: Shapo, Felix, Berrettini, Monfils...and Medvedev was so close to finish off in straight sets.
Many matches were so close; just minor margins and matches could have gone in different ways: Shapo, Felix, Berrettini, Monfils...and Medvedev was so close to finish off in straight sets.
GummiiBear
Semi-Pro
I imagine Djokovic would've won.
Then again, I predicted Medvedev would win and that Nadal would have to pull off something a-mazing to win.
If anyone has the sheer grit to win like what we saw last night, it's Nadal. If anyone can prove 'em wrong, it's him.
And, echoing others, we'll never know.
Djokovic "lost" before the tournament began.
Then again, I predicted Medvedev would win and that Nadal would have to pull off something a-mazing to win.
If anyone has the sheer grit to win like what we saw last night, it's Nadal. If anyone can prove 'em wrong, it's him.
And, echoing others, we'll never know.
Djokovic "lost" before the tournament began.sportsfan1
Legend
Nadal was fairly dominated by Djokovic in most of the 4 set match they played at rg. It's hard to see him beating Djokovic again looking at that.
Agree about the matchups; wawrinka seems a bad matchup for Djokovic at rg, but Nadal beats wawrinka comfortably there.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Novak slapped Medvedev a year ago, slapped Rafa on that same court....also slapped Rafa on his favorite court. so who knows what would have happened. We certainly were robbed of a good SF due to politics
WildRevolver
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accidental
Hall of Fame
There’s an outside chance Djokovic could have caught covid and died in Australia, being an unvaccinated person in a city awash with cases
Rafa24
Hall of Fame
this was what I was going to say. While Novak almost won the calendar slam last year he was far from his best level all season and then Med destroyed him.
Milehigh5280
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It doesn't matter
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WildRevolver
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“Hardened transferable evidence” wasn’t a big enough clue for you, huh? It was a joke, dummy.
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And two other members failing to understand it was a joke wasn't a big enough clue to realize your joke was a fail, huh ? Try to be funnier, dummy.
WildRevolver
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A lot of people like that post cuz it’s funny, dummy.
Lleytonstation
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Deleted member 762343
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Find someone who can teach you how to make jokes. You fail every time.
Yes, "a lot of people". Literally only two people who happen to be Nadal fans.
ChaelAZ
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vex
Legend
I dunno. Rafa seemed up and down. But Djokovic has been up and down. That’s what age does to you. He’d beat the Djokovic that showed up to the Wimby final pushing balls and praying for errors. He’d lose to the Djokovic that showed up at the RG SFs
Uni_hiflyer
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There’s always a chance, nobody is guaranteed anything. Not Nadal at FO or Djokovic at AO
WildRevolver
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I’m getting a stream of private messages lauding it’s hilarity.
roysid
Hall of Fame
You nailed it. Actually i meant those two players when i said noone in top 100.Unless they have glasses...
I think they were not in top 100 that time. But you put the absolute criteria
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TheNachoMan
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Novak would have won, but that’s his fault. Not RAFA’s.
Himm i have to be honest.You cant compare Djokos mental game with someone like Medvedev.Sometimes it is all mental with this great champions.
Tennis_Freak99
Legend
Unless they have glasses...
ImmorTAL Big 3
Semi-Pro
For me even if somehow Nadal was able to defeat Novak there isn't any chance he'll also defeat Med in the final.We saw how close was the final ,imagine Nadal had to go Shapo 5th setter,Novak /most probably also enduring 5 setter/ and Med.With all my respect he is great champion but i think no chance he'll win it.The relatively easy SF vs Berrettini have impact on the final,not much but enough.
onefineday
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Probably not. It's a nice speculative discussion, but ultimately meaningless. Djokovic was not there, so we will never know.
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