Djokovic 2.0 since 2008, how many slams would he have now?

[celoft]

Let's suppose Djokovic had become the 2.0 version after AO 2008, how many of the slams that took place between FO 2008 and USO 2010 would the Serbian have won? Considering we are talking of 11 slams contested, I think he would have won half of those slams. With 5 or 6 more slams(most of them the ones Nadal won during that period), Djokovic would have somewhere from 10-11 slams atm.

 

[NadalAgassi]

I dont see him winning any of the Wimbledons or French Opens from 2008-2010. Federer and Nadal at their best on natural surfaces (which they arent today) are better than him. That leaves the 6 hard court slams. I would guess he wins 4 of those perhaps (2 of the 4 Fedal won, the 1 Del Potro won, and the 1 he already won), so would be at 8 overall now.

 

[Tammo]

I would say 9. I don't think he would be winning Wimbledon constantly year after year.

 

[celoft]

He would be very close to 10 slams atm.

 

[DjokovicForTheWin]

I think he probably would have taken a FO, maybe in 2009 or 2010.

 

[Mike Sams]

I dont see him winning any of the Wimbledons or French Opens from 2008-2010. Federer and Nadal at their best on natural surfaces (which they arent today) are better than him. That leaves the 6 hard court slams. I would guess he wins 4 of those perhaps (2 of the 4 Fedal won, the 1 Del Potro won, and the 1 he already won), so would be at 8 overall now.

Federer sucked at Wimbledon 2010, dude. :lol: So did Nadal. Both were lucky even to make it to the second week.

 

[Mike Sams]

Djokovic would've taken FO 2009, 2010, Wimbledon 2010, and USO 2010 for certain. Nadal and Federer were completely vulnerable in all of those Slams. Nadal's level in 2010 at the USO is overrated. He basically met nobody until the finals. Even tired Djokovic version .05 had him in trouble at times.

 

[li0scc0]

Too tough to speculate. For example, and JUST using ONE example...the 2009 US Open when DelPo beat Federer. WHEN would Djokovic have faced Federer? Federer was unbeatable that tournament...until the final. So, if Federer from Round 1 through the Semis faces new-and-improved Djokovic...Federer wins. If finals Federer faces Djokovic, Djokovic probably wins.

 

[Clarky21]

Celoft has officially made the leap onto the ********* bandwagon with a thread like this. We could speculate all day about multiple players in this same manner. What if Fed didn't catch mono in 2007? He was never the same afterwards. And what if Nadal didn't become a mental midget with broken down knees? FrankenCvac probably wouldn't have beaten him all those times in a row,and wouldn't have the 5 slams he currently has. Do you see what I mean?

I really hope someone makes a FrankenCvac picture where he's morphed with Jesus Christ holding a Head racket,and wearing ST. That's just what this place needs to really bring the :lol:.

 

[NadalAgassi]

Celoft has officially made the leap onto the ********* bandwagon with a thread like this. We could speculate all day about multiple players in this same manner. What if Fed didn't catch mono in 2007? He was never the same afterwards. And what if Nadal didn't become a mental midget with broken down knees? FrankenCvac probably wouldn't have beaten him all those times in a row,and wouldn't have the 5 slams he currently has. Do you see what I mean?

I really hope someone makes a FrankenCvac picture where he's morphed with Jesus Christ holding a Head racket,and wearing ST. That's just what this place needs to really bring the :lol:.

Yes these over the top Djokovic threads are getting ridiculous. Next there will be a thread if Djokovic would have won Laver's Grand Slam instead if he were at his peak in 1969. Then a thread if Djokovic 2.0 existed every year of the Open Era whether he would have won over 100 slams or not. I thought nobody could be worse than the ******* army, but I might well be proven wrong on that.

Federer sucked at Wimbledon 2010, dude. So did Nadal. Both were lucky even to make it to the second week.

Djokovic would've taken FO 2009, 2010, Wimbledon 2010, and USO 2010 for certain. Nadal and Federer were completely vulnerable in all of those Slams. Nadal's level in 2010 at the USO is overrated. He basically met nobody until the finals. Even tired Djokovic version .05 had him in trouble at times.

Responding to you is akin to trying to teach Spanish to a brick wall but I will try my best. Wimbledon 2010 is the only year he would have had even a chance of winning there. Wimbledon 2008 with Federer and Nadal playing so well, and Wimbledon 2009 with Federer and Roddick, he wouldnt have had a sliver of a hope. 2010 would have been hard as well, as it was he was spanked badly by Berdych, and there is no saying he would have had an easy time winning that match even as his current self, nor beating Nadal (who by tournaments end was playing very well) in the final. Djokovic isnt even that good a grass courter, he is just fortunate he has huge momentum built up over Nadal, Federer sucks on grass, Roddick is done, and other potential threats like Berdych, Murray and Tsonga are so erratic.

As for the French Open just handing someone who has never made a French Open final two French Opens in a row as automatics is laughable. Federer in the 2009 final played exceptionally by the way, Djokovic who couldnt even beat nearly 30 year old Fed at the French this year never beats him in that final.

 

[celoft]

Not a bandwagon thread. Nadal was lucky Djoker hit his peak in 2011 instead of in 2008.

Otherwise, Nadal would have less slams than Djoker atm.

 

[NadalAgassi]

Not a bandwagon thread. Nadal was lucky Djoker hit his peak in 2011 instead of in 2008.

Otherwise, Nadal would have less slams than Djoker atm.

You mean lucky that Djokovic isnt good enough to play the level of tennis he played in 2011 for 4 straight years already. What will be next, a Henintard saying Serena is lucky she didnt play at her 2007 level every year from 2003 to 2011, otherwise she would have double the slams of Serena now (which is probably true, but its premise is ridiculous, which is why even a Henintard wouldnt think of starting an argument that stupid).

 

[celoft]

You mean lucky that Djokovic isnt good enough to play the level of tennis he played in 2011 for 4 straight years already. What will be next, a Henintard saying Serena is lucky she didnt play at her 2007 level every year from 2003 to 2011, otherwise she would have double the slams of Serena now (which is probably true, but its premise is ridiculous, which is why even a Henintard wouldnt think of starting an argument that stupid).

Oh, c'mon now. Djoker's always been a bad matchup for Nads. He used to spank the Spaniard in straights everytime they met on HC masters series. There would always be a breadstick and all... The reason Nads would beat him on natural surfaces was due to better endurance and stamina. Once Djoker stopped eating pizza, Nads has not been able to beat him anywhere. Blame it on the gluten.

Had the Serbian gone on a gluten free diet since 2008, Nads would have less slams than Djoker atm.

 

[DjokovicForTheWin]

Not a bandwagon thread. Nadal was lucky Djoker hit his peak in 2011 instead of in 2008.

Otherwise, Nadal would have less slams than Djoker atm.

Yes, but the problem is you're stating the obvious . ****s don't like to have it thrown in their face so directly. Be a little more subtle next time

 

[celoft]

I predict Nads will retire with more slams than Djoker will. Basically because of Djoker's underachieving from 2008-2010. He wasted those years big time. It will be close but I expect Nads to finish with 2 more slams than Djoker will. Which will be a shame since Djoker is more talented than Nads.

Federer will definetely edge Nads by several slams and rightly so.


Something like:

Federer 16 or 17
Nadal 11 or 12
Djoker 9 or 10

 

[DjokovicForTheWin]

I predict Nads will retire with more slams than Djoker will. Basically because of Djoker's underachieving from 2008-2010. He wasted those years big time. It will be close but I expect Nads to finish with 2 more slams than Djoker will. Which will be a shame since Djoker is more talented than Nads.

Federer will definetely edge Nads by several slams and rightly so.


Something like:

Federer 16 or 17
Nadal 11 or 12
Djoker 9 or 10

Fair prediction, but I predict Djoker will surpass Nadal.

Ending:

Federer 16
Djoker 11 or 12
Nadal 10

 

[celoft]

I'm not so sure Federer and Nadal are done winning slams. I don't expect Djoker to win all the slams in 2012 and 2013 and when he slips it will be Federer or Nadal winning that slam(s).

 

[tennis_pro]

2008 AO - won
2008 FO - peak Nadal beats anyone in that tournament, including Borg and Jesus
2008 W - Djokovic doesn't beat Federer/Nadal
2008 US - 50/50 between him and Federer
2009 AO - 33/33/33 between the top 3 - Fed and Nads (especially Nads) were in good form
2009 FO - I'll give him that, Fed was actually pretty lucky to win in the end given his form
2009 W - if he avoids Fed till the final it's 50/50 between him and Feds (Roger was tense in the final)
2009 US - he wins this one
2010 AO - 55/45 for Djok's against Federer
2010 FO - Djokovic could have a shot against Nadal
2010 W - 50/50 against Nadal
2010 US - wins this one for sure, Nadal's joke draw made him look better than he actually was. Djokovic 0.5 on his last legs pushed him in the first 2,5 sets.

I'd say he wins 2009 FO, 2009 US, 2010 AO, 2010 US and would be favored in another 2-3 majors

that would leave him with 9-11 majors

 

[Fate Archer]

2008 AO - won
2008 FO - peak Nadal beats anyone in that tournament, including Borg and Jesus
2008 W - Djokovic doesn't beat Federer/Nadal
2008 US - 50/50 between him and Federer
2009 AO - 33/33/33 between the top 3 - Fed and Nads (especially Nads) were in good form
2009 FO - I'll give him that, Fed was actually pretty lucky to win in the end given his form
2009 W - if he avoids Fed till the final it's 50/50 between him and Feds (Roger was tense in the final)
2009 US - he wins this one
2010 AO - 55/45 for Djok's against Federer
2010 FO - Djokovic could have a shot against Nadal
2010 W - 50/50 against Nadal
2010 US - wins this one for sure, Nadal's joke draw made him look better than he actually was. Djokovic 0.5 on his last legs pushed him in the first 2,5 sets.

I'd say he wins 2009 FO, 2009 US, 2010 AO, 2010 US and would be favored in another 2-3 majors

that would leave him with 9-11 majors

I agree with most of this, just think that Fed would still have won the 2008 USO and 2009 USO's result would still be the same, IMO (Fed beats Djoko in semis and loses the final to Del Potro).

 

[NadalAgassi]

Del Potro is Djokovic's beetch. Even Djokovic of 2009 probably beats Del Potro in the 2009 U.S Open final if they play, forget Del Potro having a chance against the current one. Del Potro didnt even play well in the final until the later sets, and would have lost in straight sets to a poor serving Federer if he had concentrated in the 2nd set.

 

[kishnabe]

2008 AO - won
2008 FO - Nadal Clay goating....though would lose a set to Djok 2.0
2008 W - Safin still makes Djokovic 2.0....cry
2008 US - Federer wins in 5 sets
2009 AO - Takes out Roddick in 3,Federer in 4 and Nadal in 5....no heat problems
2009 FO - Nadal get beaten by Soderling still....Djokovic meets Federer....and loses in 5.
2009 W - Federer wins in 4 sets.
2009 US - Handles Federer in 4 sets.....the greatest shot of his life won't happen
2010 AO - Federer hitting his backhand immensely well....wins in 3 sets.
2010 FO - Djokovic beats Nadal in straights in the final.
2010 W - Djokovic beats Nadal in 5 in the final.
2010 US - Nadal wins in 4.....but better 3rd and 4th set competition.

An extra 4 slams.....09 AO, 09 US, 10 FO, 10 WB

 

[celoft]

Bump.......................

 

[Towser83]

I don't see him winning RG or Wimbledon in 2008, but most other slams are possible. US Open 2009 depends on if Federer beats him or not, if Djokovic makes the final he probably wins because his game matches up against Delpo better than any of the other top 4. in 2010 Nadal wasn't as good as he was in 2011 so Nole has a big chance then. At The French Open Nadal also wasn't as good as his win without losing a set makes him look, he was getting taken to multiple tiebreaks by Almagro. Even in 2009 the channel slam by Federer was a tough win for him. Wimbledon would probably be unchanged but RG could have gone away from him - Djokovic beat Federer on clay that year as well. US Open 2010 would have been much closer, Djokovic might have won that.

 

[Cup8489]

USO 2008 if he could take out the inspired Federer that was in the semis for sure..

 

[kragster]

USO 2008 if he could take out the inspired Federer that was in the semis for sure..

I think Djoker vs Fed at USO is always a great match up.

2007 - 3 setter but Djoker had chances to close out both 1st and 2nd set.
2008 - 4 setter, Fed played really well
2010 - 5 setter
2011 - 5 setter

Fed and Djoker raise their offensive levels vs each other and that makes for great matches. Of course inevitably one of them goes to sleep for at least 1 set during the match. But the rest is usually top class.

 

[Russeljones]

Ban this guy

 

[TheMaestro1990]

RG 2008: Nadal (wouldn't lose a set still)
Wimbledon 2008: Nadal
US Open 2008: Federer (was goating the las two matches)
Australian Open 2009: tough one! Would favor Djokovic something like 55-45 against Nadal
RG 2009: Djokovic
Wimbledon 2009: Federer
US Open 2009: Del Potro
AO 2010: Favor Djokovic like 55-45 against Federer
RG 2010: Nadal
Wimbledon 2010: 50-50
US Open 2010: Nadal 55-45

 

[Noleberic123]

RG 2008: Nadal (wouldn't lose a set still)
Wimbledon 2008: Nadal
US Open 2008: Federer (was goating the las two matches)
Australian Open 2009: tough one! Would favor Djokovic something like 55-45 against Nadal
RG 2009: Djokovic
Wimbledon 2009: Federer
US Open 2009: Del Potro
AO 2010: Favor Djokovic like 55-45 against Federer
RG 2010: Nadal
Wimbledon 2010: 50-50
US Open 2010: Nadal 55-45

USO 09: Djokovic
Wimbledon 2010;Djokovic

Only two I would change

 

[metsman]

USO 09: Djokovic
Wimbledon 2010;Djokovic

Only two I would change

If fed was in 09 semis form against Djokovic he definitely wins. Regardless in the final he was basically playing that well until he got casual but I doubt he would have gotten casual against Djoker because he wouldn't have underestimated him

 

[Noleberic123]

If fed was in 09 semis form against Djokovic he definitely wins. Regardless in the final he was basically playing that well until he got casual but I doubt he would have gotten casual against Djoker because he wouldn't have underestimated him

Which 2011 or 2015 USO novak?

 

[chacmool]

if novak would had won all that slams he will probably be bored and retired/declined by now
murray will be an atg in the making grabbing slams left right and centre
so imagine all the current djokovic threads featuring murray instead

 

[Tenez101]

He would have RG 2009, at least one of W 2008-2010, at least 2 of USO 2008-2010, AO 2009-2010, so probably 6 more slams if one assumes he wins the same number of slam titles as he did after 2011.

Reasonably (factoring in possible burnout by 2016), I think he'd have 16-18 slams by now.