Djokovic has saved Wimbledon's Prestige by winning it repeatedly, AELTC also know it and prob want him to keep on winning...

Has Djokovic saved the prestige of wimbledon by winning it every year ?


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Razer

Legend
Historically every GOAT level player has won tonnes of Wimbledon titles. Borg won 5 of them, Sampras won 7 of them, Federer held 8 titles, so would wimbledon want someone holding the slams record with just 2 or 3 titles ? They would rather have that person with 7+ instead of people like Kyrgios/Berretini/Sinner/Raonic/Noorie etc etc win it. Now I am sure they would welcome Alcaraz win wimbledons, if not him then definitely Novak to continue.

So in these dark years of grass it looks like Djokovic has saved the prestige of the Grass Slam by regularly upholding the high standard of play required from a champion.
The AELTC is aware of it, the show must go on, if a face like Stonecold is retired, Rock has left for Hollywood then heel Triple H must run the show until John Cena comes of age.


Do you agree ?
 
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Djokovic has meant a lot to the legacy of Wimbledon. His name will live on now amongst the absolute best to have ever played there. Literally one away from tying the all time record for most Wimbledon titles ever.
Yeah very true. No matter what happens now he will talked about for years to come as one of the Wimbledon greats like Federer, Sampras and Borg.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
History will look at him as a man who fought and won battles vs Federer and Nadal on grass and then held off next gens..... mighty impressive resume :giggle:

Yes, he is a 5-1 against Fedal in completed matches.


"It's a very disappointing way to finish the biggest tournament, for me, but I had to retire because I wanted to avoid forcing the injury and making it worse," said Djokovic.

"It's not just a blister, it's a big infection from yesterday's match and I didn't sleep during the night because there was a lot of bleeding. I was barely walking this morning.
 

Razer

Legend
Yes, he is a 5-1 against Fedal in completed matches.


"It's a very disappointing way to finish the biggest tournament, for me, but I had to retire because I wanted to avoid forcing the injury and making it worse," said Djokovic.

"It's not just a blister, it's a big infection from yesterday's match and I didn't sleep during the night because there was a lot of bleeding. I was barely walking this morning.

The first set showed us that Djoker was always gonna be a problem for the Bull in future, the talent was always there, he makes Nadal run so much.
 

alexio

G.O.A.T.
prestige should be falling a bit anyway, coz as you said its dark times, the more real competition will be in the future the better for the prestige as it will be rising again
 

Razer

Legend
prestige should be falling a bit anyway, coz as you said its dark times, the more real competition will be in the future the better for the prestige as it will be rising again

Yeah but what I meant was, can we imagine a scenario where Kyrgios, Berretini are 1 time champs each ? and lets say kevin anderson won in 2018 ? what would that look like? bunch of jokers winning 1 time each, the slam would have looked second grade.
 

PMChambers

Hall of Fame
A talented young player won't hurt Wim, a journeyman or single Major winner will.
Becker won at 17 it didn't hurt Wim. Agassi won his first Major after implying he didn't want to compete and it didn't hurt. A young Mac won and it didn't hurt.
Win just doesn't want to be the scrap Major top players don't.win. Currently, it looks a bit like that. Win + USO + YEF (carpet or fast indoor) was a good trio. Now nothing is like Wim, potentially open, like when AO was on RA late 90 or early 00 when it was rare to have a final with two great players even though it had great fields. Mol
slow HC when most were significantly faster.
 

Razer

Legend
% Share of Wimbledon in Resume

Murray - 67% (2/3)
Sampras - 50% (7/14)
Becker - 50% (3/6)
Borg - 45.5% (5/11)
Mcenroe - 42.85% (3/7)
Federer - 40% (8/20)
Edberg - 33% (2/6)
Djokovic - 30.4% (7/23)
Connors - 25% (2/8)
Nadal - 9% (2/22)
 
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Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
% Share of Wimbledon in Resume

Murray - 67% (2/3)
Sampras - 50% (7/14)
Becker - 50% (3/6)
Borg - 45.5% (5/11)
Mcenroe - 42.85% (3/7)
Edberg - 33% (2/6)
Djokovic - 30.4% (7/23)
Connors - 25% (2/8)
Nadal - 10% (2/20)
This again proves why Murray is the GOAT.
 

ChrisRF

Legend
Yup and it is fitting.

Imagine Nadal being slams record holder with just 2 wimbledons, that makes the wimbledon look poor as well.... every goat should have 5+ of the most prestigious trophy
For now I agree (even though Wimbledon made very bad decisions in 2020 and 2022). However, when Djokovic is retired some day, Wimbledon's glory days will be over for good I think. Nobody of the Next Gen sees Wimbledon as the pinnacle of tennis anymore, and it really doesn't make sense to become a grasscourt specialist anymore. Everyone is almost forced to build his game for hardcourt tennis these days. And if not, then clay is still a much better option than grass for planning a whole season.
 

Razer

Legend
For now I agree (even though Wimbledon made very bad decisions in 2020 and 2022). However, when Djokovic is retired some day, Wimbledon's glory days will be over for good I think. Nobody of the Next Gen sees Wimbledon as the pinnacle of tennis anymore, and it really doesn't make sense to become a grasscourt specialist anymore. Everyone is almost forced to build his game for hardcourt tennis these days. And if not, then clay is still a much better option than grass for planning a whole season.

Novak won't go down until Alcaraz matures and takes over. Or someone else like Sinner/Rune mature to be a regular winner.

Wimbledon now is like WWE in 2002-06 period when Stonecold Steve Austin was done and dusted, Rock had left for Hollywood and then it was Triple H who carried Raw until John Cena/Brock Lesnar/Randy Orton matured and took over.
 

ChrisRF

Legend
Novak won't go down until Alcaraz matures and takes over. Or someone else like Sinner/Rune mature to be a regular winner.

Wimbledon now is like WWE in 2002-06 period when Stonecold Steve Austin was done and dusted, Rock had left for Hollywood and then it was Triple H who carried Raw until John Cena/Brock Lesnar/Randy Orton matured and took over.
After Rock and Austin WWE was over for me. The only short exception was around 2010 when a group called "Nexus" terrorized Cena a bit. But in the end Cena was portrayed as way too strong/heroic and it was always clear that he would leave a big PPV as a winner. That had way more potential, and I was disappointed in the end.

But it generally was more a childhood/youth thing I guess. Now Wrestling cannot catch my interest anymore. I don't even know the names of the current stars. But sometimes I still rewatch a bit of the old days on Youtube, preferably The Rock making fun of someone or parts of the Austin/McMahon saga. I still love it that Vince played the ultimate heel in his own company.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Yup and it is fitting.

Imagine Nadal being slams record holder with just 2 wimbledons, that makes the wimbledon look poor as well.... every goat should have 5+ of the most prestigious trophy
That myth of Wimbledon being the most prestigious tournament was made by some Federer fans for obvious reasons, and now for obvious reasons Djokovic fans support this BS. Truth is, in the last few years Wimbledon has been clearly the worst slam, with the weakest competition. But seems like some Djokovic fans just don't care about tennis, as long as Djokovic is the one who is vulturing.
 

Razer

Legend
That myth of Wimbledon being the most prestigious tournament was made by some Federer fans for obvious reasons, and now for obvious reasons Djokovic fans support this BS. Truth is, in the last few years Wimbledon has been clearly the worst slam, with the weakest competition. But seems like some Djokovic fans just don't care about tennis, as long as Djokovic is the one who is vulturing.

Wimbledon has always been the slams for the elites, it is no myth, back in the old days Becker, Mcenroe all use to win wimbledons and be hailed for it while nobody cared for wilander/lendl who won frenchs. Wimbledon has always been the holy grail of Tennis. The french did not have any importance before Nandal won it 14 times. Even today Wimbledon is the premier slam, grass is a unique surface.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Wimbledon has always been the slams for the elites, it is no myth, back in the old days Becker, Mcenroe all use to win wimbledons and be hailed for it while nobody cared for wilander/lendl who won frenchs. Wimbledon has always been the holy grail of Tennis. The french did not have any importance before Nandal won it 14 times. Even today Wimbledon is the premier slam, grass is a unique surface.
Grass today is a totally irrelevant surface. Young players don't care about it at all, and for all of them (except maybe Berrettini) it is the weakest surface. As a result, we see that the competition on this surface is weaker than ever.
 

Razer

Legend
its not a myth, strong, recallin that moment for sure it was even before fed showed up

@StrongRule probably started watching Tennis after 2008, so he thinks wimbledon prestige is something Federer cooked up, but in reality Wimbledon was number 1 slam long before Federer was even born. Borg, Connors, Ashe all considered wimbledon the holy grail. Prob since @Spencer Gore the first champion of wimbly
 

RelentlessAttack

Hall of Fame
The first set showed us that Djoker was always gonna be a problem for the Bull in future, the talent was always there, he makes Nadal run so much.

Uncle Toni claims that he identified Djokovic as a big future threat the first time he saw him at Wimbledon 2005. Apparently he saw him playing Juan Monaco and then went and told Rafa "we have a problem". Greatness recognizes greatness.
 

Sputnik Bulgorov

Professional
Yeah but what I meant was, can we imagine a scenario where Kyrgios, Berretini are 1 time champs each ? and lets say kevin anderson won in 2018 ? what would that look like? bunch of jokers winning 1 time each, the slam would have looked second grade.

I agree completely with the premise of your thread and it’s good Novak has been winning. But the slam already looks second grade that those guys made finals in the first place. They are not like Ivanisevic or Roddick who were unlucky to keep running into GOATs. They’re more akin to Baghdatis and Schuttler who played above themselves, combined with a lot of luck, for one tournament. I hope Sinner, Alcaraz and Rune can shake things up. Sinner showed promise in his match vs Novak, but his mentality is questionable.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
This again proves why Murray is the GOAT.

The only thing it proves is that Murray is better at the Wimbledon, than anywhere else...LOL And i know it was meant more as an exaggerated sarcastic remark, than a serious response, but i decided to clarify anyway for those potential thickheads, who might have taken this seriously and getting it over their thick skulls...and you kinda know that Mainad will get involved/mixed into this somehow...LOL
...BTW when all said and done i can picture Novak moving something like 1% ahead of Edberg as far as Wimbledons share percentage is concerned! Something like 9 to 26 or something...
 
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