Done with the next gen

[aman92]

All of them chokers of the highest level - Rublev, Zverev and Medvevev... Least one could expect is to reach the QFs and they even fail at that - relinquishing handy leads. No wonder a 40 year old with a handful of matches under his belt for 2 years is the second favourite of the tournament.

Incredible pathetic ineptitude.....

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Yeah it’s pretty embarrassing to be honest. I’m not gonna lie. I like Meddy the best from next generation but that was a shameful performance today.

 

[Deleted member 771911]

Indeed. The top tier Next Gen are sucking it up. But the second and third tier doing Ok. Shapo, HH, FAA all representing in the QFs.

 

[spottishwood]

Two points from the match:
1.Hurcacz has amazing net game and a sort of all round
2.Medvedev,like his peers, is a bottler

 

[Standaa]

there’s still Hubert

 

[JCF]

Christ it's all falling into place for Federer isn't it ?

What a joke

 

[D.Nalby12]

I think Medvedev will make it to final but ultimately it will be disappointment anyway.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Christ it's all falling into place for Federer isn't it ?

What a joke

Until Djokovic is eliminated - nothing matters for Federer.

 

[MasterZeb]

Christ it's all falling into place for Federer isn't it ?

What a joke

Still a harder draw than Novaks

 

[Aabye5]

Indeed. The top tier Next Gen are sucking it up. But the second and third tier doing Ok. Shapo, HH, FAA all representing in the QFs.

Yes, I said a while back (or maybe I just thought it), that this next group of NextGen seem a bit more hungry.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Rename next gen to misfit toys gen

 

[aman92]

I think Medvedev will make it to final but ultimately it will be disappointment anyway.

Final of the St Petersburg open?

 

[aman92]

Until Djokovic is eliminated - nothing matters for Federer.

Him reaching the final at 40 is an embarrassment for the rest of the tour

 

[daggerman]

5 of the 8 in QFs are "NextGen" players, which in this case I'm defining as "anyone who counts as NextGen if Medvedev does."

I think they're doing quite alright.

 

[fedfan08]

All of them chokers of the highest level - Rublev, Zverev and Medvevev... Least one could expect is to reach the QFs and they even fail at that - relinquishing handy leads. No wonder a 40 year old with a handful of matches under his belt for 2 years is the second favourite of the tournament.

Incredible pathetic ineptitude.....

Well this is one reason Djoker has 19 slams so…

 

[fedfan08]

Him reaching the final at 40 is an embarrassment for the rest of the tour

And Djoker reaching the final won’t be? How many 35 year olds were making slam finals in the past?

 

[D.Nalby12]

Him reaching the final at 40 is an embarrassment for the rest of the tour

Not surprising anyway. Young players see grass as alien surface. Federer will find it tough on hard court.

 

[Kralingen]

NextGen have been in the finals of the last 4 slams by the way. Save the pearl clutching.

 

[aman92]

5 of the 8 in QFs are "NextGen" players, which in this case I'm defining as "anyone who counts as NextGen if Medvedev does."

I think they're doing quite alright.

Frankly apart from Berrettini none of the others really have a hope of going all the way. Berretini too at a stretch only.. I am more disappointed in players I mentioned, who should be approaching their peaks but fall apart repeatedly

 

[Nadal_King]

Wish Rafa had played, I think he would have easily made the semis considering the draws that are there

 

[ForehandCross]

Medvedev was looked like he was dead in first 4-5 games after coming back. It might have been something physical. He didn't move 1% of the level he was moving at just yesterday.

 

[Tennis Analyst]

5 out of the 8 quarterfinalists are NextGen, yet OP is whining.

 

[bnjkn]

This is grass. They could make it out of sheer physicality but they lack TENNIS.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Christ it's all falling into place for Federer isn't it ?

What a joke

Only Djokovic can stop him. It’s always been the case to be honest and even now despite him being nearly 40, after double knee surgery and no matches.

Pretty embarrassing for the rest of the field Lol

 

[D.Nalby12]

Medvedev was looked like he was dead in first 4-5 games after coming back. It might have been something physical. He didn't move 1% of the level he was moving at just yesterday.

Medvedev plays style of Tennis which demands high levels of fitness. He is not there yet.

 

[SecondToNone]

The duality of VB

What makes Nadal so good against the next gen?

OK, I don't have the stats currently to back this but Nadal does seem to have the best record and seems most comfortable with the next gen, while Federer and Djokovic have struggled and been knocked out by them in major tournaments multiple times. What is it specifically about Nadal’s game that...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

What makes Nadal the toughest match up for the Next gen?

It seems all of the next gen - Zverev, Med, Tsitspas and Rublev (you can chuck in De Minaur as well) struggle against Nadal at least in their initial matches much more than they do against the other big boys. What is it specifically about Nadal’s game that is the cause... Is it just because of...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

 

[junior74]

Hubi is a good player on faster surfaces. Has taken some good steps.
We expect too much from the hyped BSR outside HC.

 

[Beulah Jesus]

Wish Rafa had played, I think he would have easily made the semis considering the draws that are there

Yes if he had managed to win the first 3 rounds with the slippery grass.

 

[helterskelter]

5 of the 8 in QFs are "NextGen" players, which in this case I'm defining as "anyone who counts as NextGen if Medvedev does."

I think they're doing quite alright.

Right. The three players the OP points out - Rublev, Zverev, and Medvedev - are all best suited to hard courts (Medvedev) or some combination of hard courts and clay (Zverev and Rublev).

On the other hand, the players aged 25 or younger who are in the last eight at Wimbledon all have games best suited to some combination of grass and clay (Berrettini) or grass and hard (Shapovalov, Auger-Aliassime, Hurkacz), with the sole possible exception of Khachanov, who benefitted from Tsitsipas's early exit.

If there were more tournaments on grass, it might well be that I'd say of all of the first four players through that, like Medvedev on hard, grass is definitively their best surface. I can certainly imagine thinking that of Shapovalov and Hurkacz, but possibly Berrettini and Auger-Aliassime, too.

 

[ChrisRF]

But what I don’t understand: Why always the big hopes before any Slam, only to get disappointed again?

Why always the talk like: “Okay, but this is definitely the last hurrah of the Big 3” when there are no signs that their reign will end?

Why is it always “the next Slam” (or “the next season” when a new year begins) when “they will take over”?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Until Djokovic is eliminated - nothing matters for Federer.

Still it’s a great opportunity for federer. If something happens to Djokovic then Fed 100% wins it. Plus a Fedovic would be competitive albeit djoko is the favourite. Still it would be close I think.

Still they both have to get there yet but both have good chances.

 

[The Blond Blur]

Can’t be done with #NextGen if you don’t start with them

 

[TennisFan3]

Still it’s a great opportunity for federer. If something happens to Djokovic then Fed 100% wins it. Plus a Fedovic would be competitive albeit djoko is the favourite. Still it would be close I think.

Still they both have to get there yet but both have good chances.

Really really hope that Novak thrashes Fed good. Hopefully in straight sets with bakery products thrown in.

 

[El_Yotamo]

NextGen have been in the finals of the last 4 slams by the way. Save the pearl clutching.

4 of the last 5. RG20 still happened

 

[Milanez82]

All of them chokers of the highest level - Rublev, Zverev and Medvevev... Least one could expect is to reach the QFs and they even fail at that - relinquishing handy leads. No wonder a 40 year old with a handful of matches under his belt for 2 years is the second favourite of the tournament.

Incredible pathetic ineptitude.....

FAA and Shapo aren't next gen?
Lol

 

[Open Stance]

I wonder how Nadal feels about his decision to skip W now.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Didn’t think we would find a gen worse than dimitrov, raomug, Cilic, nishimuggy but it looks Like we found it.

 

[ibbi]

All of them chokers of the highest level - Rublev, Zverev and Medvevev... Least one could expect is to reach the QFs and they even fail at that - relinquishing handy leads. No wonder a 40 year old with a handful of matches under his belt for 2 years is the second favourite of the tournament.

Incredible pathetic ineptitude.....

Dude, there's 4 next gen players in the QF's.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

All of them chokers of the highest level - Rublev, Zverev and Medvevev... Least one could expect is to reach the QFs and they even fail at that - relinquishing handy leads. No wonder a 40 year old with a handful of matches under his belt for 2 years is the second favourite of the tournament.

Incredible pathetic ineptitude.....

The guy’s 39 not 40.

 

[NoleIsBoat]

Big 3 are still playing amazing tennis so it’s not too bad that nextgen sucks on grass lol. Besides it’s not all of them - FAA, Zverev, Shapo, Berretini, Hurcazs all playing great stuff.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Big 3 are still playing amazing tennis so it’s not too bad that nextgen sucks on grass lol. Besides it’s not all of them - FAA, Zverev, Shapo, Berretini, Hurcazs all playing great stuff.

Zverev?

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

5 out of the 8 quarterfinalists are NextGen, yet OP is whining.

You forgot the part where Federer sucks. Tsk tsk, TA.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Really really hope that Novak thrashes Fed good. Hopefully in straight sets with bakery products thrown in.

I’d love to see that. Although I don’t expect it. Novak never normally has an easy time with Fed in a grand slam final. Even now I wouldn’t expect any different. I think djoko can get it done again if it happened but it would be close.

There’s a lot on the line and both players would be super pumped. Fed will be bang up for it and we know the crowd will be fully behind him. Anything can happen in these big 3 matches. Still djoko would be the favourite.

 

[Jonas78]

Dude, there's 4 next gen players in the QF's.

Noone stand out though, there is no consistency. Noone younger than Djokovic who can consistently reach at least QF in slams.

 

[ScottleeSV]

It is a bit pathetic, although to be honest, I expected Djokovic to win this one even if those guys had gone far.

 

[SardinesForDinner]

Sometimes I hope the next gens read the TTW to get a kick in their arse and find some sort of motivation that doesn't evolve completely around fame and money.

 

[tennis_pro]

Christ it's all falling into place for Federer isn't it ?

What a joke

How? Let's be honest here the one and only big obstacle for Federer is Djokovic and no way in hell Djokovic isn't gonna reach the final with the draw that he has. Even at 40 I'll be surprised if Fed loses to someone like Hurkacz or Berrettini at Wimbledon. Medvedev wouldn't do any better.

 

[Third Serve]

Didn’t think we would find a gen worse than dimitrov, raomug, Cilic, nishimuggy but it looks Like we found it.

Well, Cilic isn’t in that gen first of all.

Second of all, the nextgens are bad but they’re not Lost Gen level of bad I think.

 

[Aabye5]

Well, Cilic isn’t in that gen first of all.

Second of all, the nextgens are bad but they’re not Lost Gen level of bad I think.

It depends...

 

[T007]

Final of the St Petersburg open?

Rubbing salt in the wounds...
That line was hillarious though.