Greatest American

Who is the Greatest American of all time?


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Tchocky

Hall of Fame
I'm reading Tavis Smiley's new book "Fail Up". He cites several times that he believes the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. is the greatest American this country has ever produced. It's a pretty powerful statement. It got me thinking who is the Greatest American. Feel free to nominate your own candidates.
 

max

Legend
I voted for Lincoln, who is an amazing person---if you're only view of Abe is the stock stereotype, give it up, go fetch a decent biography and be amazed at the guy. Totally.

I kind of wish I could also vote for Washington, the man who really pulled us through. It would have been fairly easy for George to have simply become a genial dictator, but he kept the whole thing on track and brought into existence the idea of modern representative democracy.
 

maverick66

Hall of Fame
I dont think there is one. All of those men contributed to making this country what it is.

I dont think Reagon or Presley should be up there but I guess to some they are.
 

SFrazeur

Legend
Einstein was german. He lived how much in the States? The last 20 years of his life? Wasn't he like 50 when he moved to the states?

Yes and no. The United States, "America" is a nation of immigrants. America is the great melting pot, the marketplace of ideas. Being born in another country cannot disqualify one from being a Great American. Einstein did gain United States Citizenship in 1940.

-SF
 

Andres

G.O.A.T.
Yes and no. The United States, "America" is a nation of immigrants. America is the great melting pot, the marketplace of ideas. Being born in another country cannot disqualify one from being a Great American. Einstein did gain United States Citizenship in 1940.

-SF
Most (if not ALL) of his work was done before he moved to the States. I dont think he had any noteworthy contribution as an american citizen.
 

albino smurf

Professional
IMHO the greatest American is the guy that will never get credit for anything. The guy ( or woman) that works their tail off for less money than they deserve, head down, mouth shut, nose to the grindstone, to provide a decent opportunity for their family to have a shot at a better life than they had.
 

rommil

Legend
IMHO the greatest American is the guy that will never get credit for anything. The guy ( or woman) that works their tail off for less money than they deserve, head down, mouth shut, nose to the grindstone, to provide a decent opportunity for their family to have a shot at a better life than they had.

Nyeh......sounds dramatic but no. There are thousands of people out in other countries that doesn't have even the hairtip of the amount of opportunities that is available to Americans in the USA.
 

Tchocky

Hall of Fame
IMHO the greatest American is the guy that will never get credit for anything. The guy ( or woman) that works their tail off for less money than they deserve, head down, mouth shut, nose to the grindstone, to provide a decent opportunity for their family to have a shot at a better life than they had.

I love that guy...whoever he is.
 

albino smurf

Professional
Nyeh......sounds dramatic but no. There are thousands of people out in other countries that doesn't have even the hairtip of the amount of opportunities that is available to Americans in the USA.

They also probably don't have the opportunities to do the bare minimum and eek by. How about the people that come here for precisely the opportunity I'm talking about. That is how America became great. Oh yeah, and slavery and killing off the indigenous population.
 

mightyrick

Legend
Most (if not ALL) of his work was done before he moved to the States. I dont think he had any noteworthy contribution as an american citizen.

Ok, well, if we're going to basically say that either the person had to be born in the United States, or made their contributions during the time that they were a United States citizen... then Einstein definitely doesn't qualify. I wasn't coming at it from that standpoint.

In that case, I think it has to be either Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. or Thomas Edison.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Ok, well, if we're going to basically say that either the person had to be born in the United States, or made their contributions during the time that they were a United States citizen... then Einstein definitely doesn't qualify. I wasn't coming at it from that standpoint.

In that case, I think it has to be either Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. or Thomas Edison.

Serious candidates for "most influential Americans" (in terms of their influence on history) would be (in no particular order):

1) Edison

2) Wright Brothers

3) Thomas Jefferson

4) Abe Lincoln

5) George Washington

6) John F. Kennedy (as much as I hate to admit it. I consider him because of the Apollo missions)

7) Ronald Reagan (as much as I hate to admit it. I consider him because of the end of the cold war).

8. Henry Ford

9) Martin Luther King Jr.

10) Ben Franklin



"Greatest" would be Ali.

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Sentinel

Bionic Poster
A toss-up between Dedan's Penthouse and Slice BH Compliment.



Honorable mentions to Rickson and Superstition. :D
 
Its clearly Martin Luther King, everything about him is fake, his name, his doctorate, his life, sums up Americans and American 'culture'.
 

max

Legend
I've read a couple of King's books and liked them, but the plagiarism concern is valid.
 

quest01

Hall of Fame
There is a lot of great Americans its hard to pinpoint which American is the greatest. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, I mean the list goes on and on. I would have to say (and most people would agree) that America is by far the best country in the world. America has so much more history then Europe and the rest of the world.
 

jswinf

Professional
I voted for Lincoln, who is an amazing person---

I have to admit my first reaction was "wow, this max guy is really ancient" before I figured out he was referring to voting in this poll, not the election of 1860 or 1864...:)

I chose other, and would fill it with Franklin Roosevelt (at the risk of stirring up rants and raves.) I just think he looms pretty large in the development of the modern USA.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
I chose other, and would fill it with Franklin Roosevelt (at the risk of stirring up rants and raves.) I just think he looms pretty large in the development of the modern USA.
Yes and no.

Yes, if we mean 'large in the development of the USA'. Of course, he was elected to 4 terms! And this was during the depression and WWII, so it was a critical time as well. Not sure if his pro Soviet policies were so good, though. Stalin was probably even worse than Hitler so it was a big mistake to help him stay in power and then to give half of Europe over to him after the war.

His economic policies for dealing with the depression were so effective that it only lasted a decade! He started social security which worked out great for the first generations under it. They got back so much more than they paid. Of course, now that is being reversed and current generations won't come close to getting back the money collected from their paychecks.

(I'd still pick him over MLK, though. Thomas Sowell said, "One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain”. MLK falls in the last category, just a complainer. Like Albino Smurf points out, it's better to be a worker.)
 

LuckyR

Legend
This is interesting. I think MLK could knock out Elvis, George Washington (and my grandmother, who is dead) could kill Thomas Jefferson, we all know Dylan couldn't fight, he really has had no training, if Ben Franklin did any fighting it was a long, long time ago...


Oops, sorry... wrong thread...
 

Avles

Hall of Fame
(I'd still pick him over MLK, though. Thomas Sowell said, "One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain”. MLK falls in the last category, just a complainer. Like Albino Smurf points out, it's better to be a worker.)

MLK had plenty of character flaws, but he put his life on the line for the cause of justice. That's more than most of us can say. "Just a complainer" is an absurd characterization.
 

r2473

G.O.A.T.
Thomas Sowell said, "One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized those who refuse to produce, and canonized those who complain”. MLK falls in the last category, just a complainer. Like Albino Smurf points out, it's better to be a worker.)

Someone has been reading their Ayn Rand.
 
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