Is sun block safe?

strife726

Rookie
We tennis players are exposed to sun when we play and are told to always use sun block. However, I started to wonder just how safe this stuff we put on our skin actually is. I happen to read this..........

"Do not use sun block
This is one of the greatest frauds in history. The sun does not cause cancer. Sun block has been shown to cause cancer. The ingredients in sun block are now strongly believed to be the number one cause of skin cancer. There is no skin cancer in Africa. People stay in the sun all day long with no sunscreen. It is not the pigment in the skin as some suggest. People with African heritage living in America have the highest rate of skin cancer, and they stay in the sun the least. You don't want to get a sun burn, so wear a hat or cover your body with light clothing. The sun is healthy for you and the sun should be on your skin. Statistics show that the people that use the most amounts of sun block have the highest skin cancer rates. This goes for tanning lotions as well. Remember, whatever you put on your skin is going in your body. If you can't eat it, don't put it on your skin. "


My question, for anyone knowledgeable on this subject, is what ingredients should I avoid when picking out what product to buy? Are there any natural sun blocks?
 
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beedlejuice22

Semi-Pro
This sounds like a load of garbage to me. When my mom was a kid, her family lived on Cape Cod in the summer and was always at the beach. She never wore sun block and now she has some pre cancerous cells and is at risk of skin cancer. The above article has too many wholes in it.
 

thundaga

Rookie
theres no way u can give that site any credibility when it's titled
"stuff that causes cancer"

that stuff about the africans (if its even true) would be more in relation to the location on Earth and the ozone layer. when i lived in fiji we never suffered any sunburn but back here in Australia my parents get burnt quite easily.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Did you know that some people actually died from falling asleep in the sun without protection? Intense sunburn can make you dehydrated and give you a high fever (on top of actually burning the skin). It's certainly not harmless as this article suggests. It also makes your skin age faster (because it's drier). Stay in the shade whenever you can and sunscreen is as safe as any cosmetic cream. As long as you're not allergic, it's not gonna hurt you.
 
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CanadianChic

Hall of Fame
I'm pretty sure that the cases of death were due to extreme heat over a period of time - in essence they cooked to death from the inside. I don't believe skin block protection would have made a bit of difference in those cases. That would be like saying that someone who froze to death could have prevented it had they had a heat pocket in their glove.
 
it helps but be careful..

it does do the job , but in my view it is best to be in the shade when the chance is given .. saves you a buck and the fact that sunscreens containing titanium oxide are extremely harmful to the ocean , in particular to the coral reefs. should be a known to the public .

so avoid that if you can . :). the coral reefs have enough issues / problems to deal with anyhow.
 
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veroniquem

Bionic Poster
I'm pretty sure that the cases of death were due to extreme heat over a period of time - in essence they cooked to death from the inside. I don't believe skin block protection would have made a bit of difference in those cases. That would be like saying that someone who froze to death could have prevented it had they had a heat pocket in their glove.
Yes but that doesn't mean you shouldn't wear sunscreen. It's just an extreme example of how dangerous the sun can be. And you should at least take measures to prevent your skin from frying (particularly on a beach). As I said the best thing is to stay in the shade whenever possible.
 

CanadianChic

Hall of Fame
Yes but that doesn't mean you shouldn't wear sunscreen. It's just an extreme example of how dangerous the sun can be. And you should at least take measures to prevent your skin from frying (particularly on a beach). As I said the best thing is to stay in the shade whenever possible.

I agree with this post...I was simply responding to the 'extreme example'. Personally I tend to avoid the heat at certain levels altogether - forget shade, I'll stick to air conditioning.
 

Fee

Legend
got it from here http://alldebbie.com/fightcancer/stuffcause.html. Its at the lower left. But I didn't just read from one source since you never know how reliable they are. I did a search and found many sites saying the same thing.

That site quotes Kevin Trudeau as a source. He is a complete fraud.


It's your body, it's your choice. Don't wear sunscreen, but ask yourself why your skin changes color in the sun and whether or not that color change could be considered an all over bruise of some type.
 
We tennis players are exposed to sun when we play and are told to always use sun block. However, I started to wonder just how safe this stuff we put on our skin actually is. I happen to read this..........

"Do not use sun block
This is one of the greatest frauds in history. The sun does not cause cancer. Sun block has been shown to cause cancer. The ingredients in sun block are now strongly believed to be the number one cause of skin cancer. There is no skin cancer in Africa. People stay in the sun all day long with no sunscreen. It is not the pigment in the skin as some suggest. People with African heritage living in America have the highest rate of skin cancer, and they stay in the sun the least. You don't want to get a sun burn, so wear a hat or cover your body with light clothing. The sun is healthy for you and the sun should be on your skin. Statistics show that the people that use the most amounts of sun block have the highest skin cancer rates. This goes for tanning lotions as well. Remember, whatever you put on your skin is going in your body. If you can't eat it, don't put it on your skin. "


My question, for anyone knowledgeable on this subject, is what ingredients should I avoid when picking out what product to buy? Are there any natural sun blocks?

the smart way is to just use organic sunscreen. aubrey organics is a credible safe ingredient company
 

Fee

Legend
Aubrey Organics is a decent company, but they had many issues in the past with their products and their non-compliant labels. Their products are not really 'all natural' and there is no standard for 'organic' ingredients in cosmetics. I'm concerned that they sell products that are less than SPF 15, a skin care company should know that 'deep tanning' is not good for skin and leads to premature aging, but I guess that helps them sell more of their other products.
 

dave333

Hall of Fame
My mom is a pharmacist and investigating them a bit, she came up with (paraphased):

If you get burned, you should use sunscreen. If you don't really burn, you don't direly need it.

From 9AM to 3PM, there are certain rays (I forget what they are called) that come out much more, and sunscreen can't block them. So avoid overlong exposure to the sun during this time.

SPF 15 blocks around 90% of rays from the sun. SPF 30 blocks aroudn 95%. Basically, diminishing returns as the SPF goes above 15.

Studies have shown that use of sunscreen increases rates of melanoma, but this is due to people staying out too long in the sun anyway, wearing sunscreen.

Some sunscreens also tend to have some pretty crappy stuff in them, can deteriorate the skin. So don't put too much on, if you need it at all.
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
Zinc and titanium oxides should be safe, and they are the most effective because they reflect the sun's rays. I've heard that these oxides can irritate the skin (such as zinc oxide), but they are not toxic.

As for the oceans, I don't see how titanium dioxide would be toxic to oceans. It's one of the most stable pigments for painting. It doesn't react with anything and practically lasts forever. Being so stable (and insoluble), I don't see how it would be toxic to marine life. Zinc oxide is similarly stable.
 

Nadal_Monfils

Semi-Pro
I hardly ever wear sunscreen because it gives a suffocating feel to my skin, makes me hotter and I sweat much more than usual.
 

kungfusmkim

Professional
We tennis players are exposed to sun when we play and are told to always use sun block. However, I started to wonder just how safe this stuff we put on our skin actually is. I happen to read this..........

"Do not use sun block
This is one of the greatest frauds in history. The sun does not cause cancer. Sun block has been shown to cause cancer. The ingredients in sun block are now strongly believed to be the number one cause of skin cancer. There is no skin cancer in Africa. People stay in the sun all day long with no sunscreen. It is not the pigment in the skin as some suggest. People with African heritage living in America have the highest rate of skin cancer, and they stay in the sun the least. You don't want to get a sun burn, so wear a hat or cover your body with light clothing. The sun is healthy for you and the sun should be on your skin. Statistics show that the people that use the most amounts of sun block have the highest skin cancer rates. This goes for tanning lotions as well. Remember, whatever you put on your skin is going in your body. If you can't eat it, don't put it on your skin. "


My question, for anyone knowledgeable on this subject, is what ingredients should I avoid when picking out what product to buy? Are there any natural sun blocks?

There's not much skin cancer in Africa because they are naturally black and they dont get burnt as easilly.
 

autumn_leaf

Hall of Fame
There's not much skin cancer in Africa because they are naturally black and they dont get burnt as easilly.

one of my friends who is black got sunburn and i was like "wtf!>!>!??"

try blue lizard, highly rated by most, but it's expensive. well cancer > cost ??? who knows.
 

kungfusmkim

Professional
Of course all people get sunburns but people in africa are under that beating ray 24/7 so they are pretty use to it
 

superman1

Legend
I usually use sunscreen but I don't really trust it so I just wear a cap mostly and try to stay out of the Sun - night tennis for me. UV rays even go through clouds and they can even get reflected off the pavement of the sidewalk.

...But we can't be THAT weak. We've got to man up a bit. Leather our faces up. I'm ashamed.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
Yep, try to play at night if at all possible.

If playing in the sun, wear a long-sleeve shirt with dryfit, coolmax, moisture-wicking type of material in order to protect your arms (wearing a hat goes without saying). This is what I notice a lot of coaches doing in hot Southern California. They say that since they are out in the sun all day, the sun block alone doesn't cut it.
 

crazytennis

Semi-Pro
I use sunscreen but it usually washes away pretty quickly. Sometime I reapply, sometimes I don't.

If you want to see the effect of lack of sunscreen, compare Rafter and Sampras' skin now.
 

Deuce

Banned
I trust neither common types of sunscreen, nor Kevin Trudeau.

I use no sunscreen - although, now that I seem to be taking up a water sport, I may look into some of the so-called healthy sunscreens mentioned in this thread - because when on the water, the sun seems to have twice the effect on skin.

There's not much skin cancer in Africa because they are naturally black and they dont get burnt as easilly.
As opposed to those who are unnaturally black?
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
We tennis players are exposed to sun when we play and are told to always use sun block. However, I started to wonder just how safe this stuff we put on our skin actually is. I happen to read this..........

"Do not use sun block
This is one of the greatest frauds in history. The sun does not cause cancer. Sun block has been shown to cause cancer. The ingredients in sun block are now strongly believed to be the number one cause of skin cancer. There is no skin cancer in Africa. People stay in the sun all day long with no sunscreen. It is not the pigment in the skin as some suggest. People with African heritage living in America have the highest rate of skin cancer, and they stay in the sun the least. You don't want to get a sun burn, so wear a hat or cover your body with light clothing. The sun is healthy for you and the sun should be on your skin. Statistics show that the people that use the most amounts of sun block have the highest skin cancer rates. This goes for tanning lotions as well. Remember, whatever you put on your skin is going in your body. If you can't eat it, don't put it on your skin. "


My question, for anyone knowledgeable on this subject, is what ingredients should I avoid when picking out what product to buy? Are there any natural sun blocks?
I am more worried about lack of vitamin d myself. Its a scam. They preach the sunblock message and then everyone blocks up and we get vitamin D deficiencies and get sicker as a society. More money when people are sick. Just like the epidemic of Low T. Plastic when heated leeches estrogen like chemicals that destroy Testosterone
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I thought this was a new thread till i read Canadian chic's post and was like wow.
Deuce was another old poster. His/her Ava is actually a gif and used to blink ten years back. Then they disallowed gifs but retained existing ones. At some time the gifs stopped running.
 
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