it is what it isI wasn’t aware that Nadal beat Berrettini to win all 19 of his slams?
Yes, 40-15 was the biggest turning point in history of forum...It is dying, yes. But the 40-15 saved it from already being dead.
Yes, 40-15 was the biggest turning point in history of forum...
Many unbearable posters left, and made this place much more pleasant... USO result helped that great trend with more Fednatics leaving...
Next Nadals slam will brake even most optimistic Federer hard core fans, and after some very deserved nose rubbing of Fednatics leftovers, this place will finally became nice tennis forum...
It’s those frickin’ fake people that carry on...It's very slowly dying, just like all real people
You could argue tennis is struggling so the hype around it would be too. Do we honestly have any new up and coming superstars? Because we have been talking about them forever and they never turn out to be.I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.
What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
Yeah, only been here a year as well, but I think it is more in waves due to the big3 performances and who is "on top" at the moment.I don’t have a say in this matter because I only joined last year, but I think quality noticeably dipped after 40-15. Just too many trolls imo. I think it’s still a nice forum, though.
In what alternate universe is this?It won't be that boring when Thiem beats Nadal at RG in a few months #TeamThiem #PrinceOfClay
Believe in the Thiem Dream, my friend.In what alternate universe is this?
This was well known as a Federer fan forum. On Facebook , which has largely killed forums like this, the tennis pages used to mock this site as a Federer tribute forum. But since 2017 when Nadal locker down no.1 I noticed on other sites that Federer fans seemed a lot less vocal and that continued with every Major Nadal was winning and of course djokovic. But Wimbledon 2019 seemed the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. On Facebook Federer fans have largely disappeared and then after US Open its all Nadal fans.There was this poll and turns out a lot of Fed fans left. It’s more Rafa fans than Fed fans here now. Was notable after Wimbledon 19 and also USO 19.
So yeah, less posters cause less Fed fans.
I love Thiem and if there is a guy I can handle Nadal losing to it would be him but I think Thiem missed his boat to be honest.Believe in the Thiem Dream, my friend.
I'm hoping not. Thiem won IW, beat Djokovic again at RG, beat Nadal in Barcelona without dropping serve once, and had a fantastic indoor season. 2020 will probably be his peak.I love Thiem and if there is a guy I can handle Nadal losing to it would be him but I think Thiem missed his boat to be honest.
I agree with you 100%.I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.
What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
And you honestly don't think the moment Nadal retires his fans will also limp off into the night? You restrict this observation solely to Federer fans, when there are countless Nadal and Djokovic posters here who quite brazenly live vicariously through their idol. When Nadal lost to Fed in the Wimbledon semis in 2019, three of the most vociferous Nadal fans here stopped posting until late into the USO when Nadal had reached the semis. So they limped off into the night until Nadal came back triumphant.There are just legions if Fed fans on here thy ya have attached their identity to Fed and his being “the greatest”. When they no longer have that I expect a lot to limp off into the night
I guess we’ll see. I think that the down turns of 2015 and 2017 bled off those types of fans from the Rafa/Djokovic camps.And you honestly don't think the moment Nadal retires his fans will also limp off into the night? You restrict this observation solely to Federer fans, when there are countless Nadal and Djokovic posters here who quite brazenly live vicariously through their idol. When Nadal lost to Fed in the Wimbledon semis in 2019, three of the most vociferous Nadal fans here stopped posting until late into the USO when Nadal had reached the semis. So they limped off into the night until Nadal came back triumphant.
Don't be so insular or naive as to think what you said about Fed fans doesn't apply to 85% of the other fan bases as well. Why? Because they are fans of one player and are not tennis fans.
because they played the game, and were mostly interested in practical discussions and not about validation of their own presence.
Maybe in 2004-2005, this section never really had good/knowledgable players posting here. Heck, suresh could probably beat more than 98% of these users in this section. People laugh at him but at least he plays
Which is the biggest obstacle to healthy communication here, in your opinion?I am talking in general about the genesis of the existence of forums like TTW. I wasn't here around the time you are talking about, so I wouldn't know, but it is a fact that more and more of the so called posters have never picked up a tennis racquet, nor have they ever consistently practiced any sport: the level of ignorance regarding the sport is way too high for those things to not be so.
I imagine TTW will see quite the downturn when Rafa passes Fed because there are just legions if Fed fans on here thy ya have attached their identity to Fed and his being “the greatest”. When they no longer have that I expect a lot to limp off into the night
Which is the biggest obstacle to healthy communication here, in your opinion?
Continually find myself stunned by the deficit in fundamental reasoning capacity.
Even a language barrier doesn’t excuse some of these folks.
If you ran a similar site, would you raise the entry bar?
Great.I owe you an explanation that I promised some time ago and never got around to give. I will PM you soon with the answer to your question regarding the structure of the forum I told you about in the past. For the thread here, let's say that it is better if the members that have shown a modicum of "reasoning capacity" and are balanced posters have special rights that go beyond posting only. For example, such members could have the right to moderate the threads they themselves start. That way they can pick their topics of interest and not one ill intentioned poster will be able to get any foothold in his activities. You will be surprised how powerful tool that is, as even a small, but very healthy group of such posters will dominate the forum level and tone. That is an absolute necessity: that some sort of good intention is a predominant objective in the discussions.
kMost Federer fans were fans of some other player before Federer came along and will be fans of other players that carry on the same type of game after he is retired (Tsitsipas has the promise and the style, so he is an easy choice at the moment). It is the Nadal (and to a lesser extend the Djokovic fanbase) that have unhealthy obsession with Nadal on a personal level, and find it hard to transition, as tennis wasn't their primary link to Nadal anyway. The days of their teenage affections are slowly passing, and they start to realise that life goes on after the teenage years and it is stupid to be a fan of a tennis player, just because you thought that he is a "rebel" and "hot". Nadal is bald, and he is more a businessmen than anything else. It will also get worse.
What worried me for Thiem is in WTF he choked. He choked v Rafa in Paris last year after getting to a set app as he didn’t react at all to Nadal shortening points and he is very old to be a first time Major winner. Nadal will be utterly unstoppable in roland Garros to get 20 Majors. I do not expect much from Nadal in Melbourne as I think he will concentrate on clay this season until May. I can see Nadal and Djokovic splitting Majors again this year as nobody is close to either even over 3 sets let alone 5.I'm hoping not. Thiem won IW, beat Djokovic again at RG, beat Nadal in Barcelona without dropping serve once, and had a fantastic indoor season. 2020 will probably be his peak.
Hey? Is this a a parody post? Federer fans are by and large not actually sports fans and more like an obsessed cult. Pretty much all Nadal fans used to like Agassi and love thiem now. Federer fans do not have a good word to say about anyone! I have seen Federer fans hate on Lebron James Tom Brady Ronaldo Messi and Bolt and Phelps when they get more attention.Most Federer fans were fans of some other player before Federer came along and will be fans of other players that carry on the same type of game after he is retired (Tsitsipas has the promise and the style, so he is an easy choice at the moment). It is the Nadal (and to a lesser extend the Djokovic fanbase) that have unhealthy obsession with Nadal on a personal level, and find it hard to transition, as tennis wasn't their primary link to Nadal anyway. The days of their teenage affections are slowly passing, and they start to realise that life goes on after the teenage years and it is stupid to be a fan of a tennis player, just because you thought that he is a "rebel" and "hot". Nadal is bald, and he is more a businessmen than anything else. It will also get worse.
Hey Pablo, I teach a lot of people whose first language it Spanish, and I wish they could write English as well as you do.I don't usually write here because my mother tongue is Spanish and it would take me a long time to do it perfectly if I want to write long posts, but I frequently read the threads, your opinions and trollings xD I think this is, or used to be, the biggest forum to talk about the sport we love. However, lately I have the feeling that there are less people than ever writing and watching matches. It seems the GOAT debate is getting aaaaaall the attention right now, and in spite of being a fascinating thing, it starts to be boring.
What do you think? am I wrong and the forum activity is the same as usual? the GOAT debate is bad for tennis outside the Big 3 and Grand Slams?
That can be translated as a group of posters not wanting to engage in any form of discussion that contradicts their wishful thinking.I owe you an explanation that I promised some time ago and never got around to give. I will PM you soon with the answer to your question regarding the structure of the forum I told you about in the past. For the thread here, let's say that it is better if the members that have shown a modicum of "reasoning capacity" and are balanced posters have special rights that go beyond posting only. For example, such members could have the right to moderate the threads they themselves start. That way they can pick their topics of interest and not one ill intentioned poster will be able to get any foothold in his activities. You will be surprised how powerful tool that is, as even a small, but very healthy group of such posters will dominate the forum level and tone. That is an absolute necessity: that some sort of good intention is a predominant objective in the discussions.
The match threads here are honestly my favorite parts of TTW.The slam threads are still a lot of fun here.
There are about 8 Nadal fans here. Not sure they can be accused of ruining the forum . Nadal fans have taken over the ATP Facebook pages.Lots of generalizations going on here. Basically stuff like:
“Federer fans are only into the sport because Federer has the most Slams”
“Nadal fans are ruining tennis discussion here”
“Nobody here has ever picked up a racket”
Lots of generalizations going on here. Basically stuff like:
“Federer fans are only into the sport because Federer has the most Slams”
“Nadal fans are ruining tennis discussion here”
“Nobody here has ever picked up a racket”
Trump 2020The quality of the posts, decorum, and mutual respect in the community has diminished with the influx of young millennials. Next-Gen disappointments are not just a pandemic on the ATP. I blame smartphones, limbic system overload and a sub-cultural idiomatic embrace of mediocrity and the demonization of capitalism.
Odds and Ends is where it is at
Time is a snake eating its own tail.
Newcomers come and enjoy and think the glory is theirs and the age is golden.
Oldies have seen the same shït again and again and again and they grow bored thinking that the end is nigh.
Oldies slowly leave.
Newcomers slowly grow old.
The cycle slowly but surely continues.
By any chance are you the **** seller sethlikestennis?100%
I imagine TTW will see quite the downturn when Rafa passes Fed because there are just legions if Fed fans on here thy ya have attached their identity to Fed and his being “the greatest”. When they no longer have that I expect a lot to limp off into the night
That's not true at all. I just made a thread crediting Bautista Agut. You don't know what you're talking about.Hey? Is this a a parody post? Federer fans are by and large not actually sports fans and more like an obsessed cult. Pretty much all Nadal fans used to like Agassi and love thiem now. Federer fans do not have a good word to say about anyone! I have seen Federer fans hate on Lebron James Tom Brady Ronaldo Messi and Bolt and Phelps when they get more attention.
No way!
By any chance are you the **** seller sethlikestennis?
Why is Ebae censored?