Creatine is probably the single best legal supplement you can take to increase strength and muscle gains, but it's still only one part of the equation. Creatine will give you more energy to lift heavier weights and stimulate muscle growth (aka. muscle protein synthesis). However, optimal muscle protein synthesis is only achieved when you have sufficient amounts of protein and BCAA's. BCAA's are most abundant in animal protein sources like dairy, eggs, and meat. They are less abundant in vegan protein, so you need even more protein if your sources are vegan on top of the fact that it's hard to include enough protein from vegan sources in the first place.
So a vegetarian diet with dairy is good enough for the proteins you mention.
Hatched eggs are best.
I would say just added dairy would do it. Getting it the form of whey protein especially would help because it's convenient and wouldn't add all the extra calories of milk. Of course, if you add eggs to your diet also that's even easier. The problem with strict vegans is they can't eat dairy or eggs.
Although dairy has extra calories, it can help you to lose weight.
I recently saw an Iranian movie* which started with ostriches and their eggs. Someone made an omelet with one. Served the entire family.
Seems to go against articles that I have read.
Just bought some today, still warm. The farmer is thinking about getting sheep as well. Would be good . Sheep and goat mixed is good.
I would do that if I knew where to get it. Pasteurization and homogenation seem to do more harm than good. The all knowing FDA has made it illegal to sell raw milk without the a warning that it's for pet consumption only. Just another stupid nanny state law brought to you by the dairy lobby.
Most of the milk I see in grocery stores now is ultra pasteurized to increase shelf life, so it's heated to 280 degrees F. Does that sound like a low heat level for milk?
It was pasteurized milk. This article explains it:
I think there's only one health food store in town that sells raw milk. They have to put a warning on it that says "For Pet Consumption Only" but everyone understands who is really drinking it. Last time I checked they were charging $12 for a quart, which I think is outrageous. I certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money to feed it to my pets. Even the organic milk they sell at grocery stores is pasteurized because of the shelf life. Really, the best way to get it is directly from a farm, but there are no dairy farms in my area for hundreds of miles. On top of that you have to make sure they are grass fed, humanely treated, and not given steroid or antibiotics. Too much work!
$1.35 per pint, or 20 fluid ounces. 5 miles from my house. They are primarily cow milk but they got goats to make cheese. Kept outdoors on grass all year round. Get to meet the producers
Sadly, you're more likely to find "bro science" rather than actual science at the gym. I'm sure your friends mean well, but they probably share the common misconception that without meat you're suddenly protein deficient, which is hardly the case if you're eating a variety of whole grains, legumes, fruits, vegetables and nuts. You certainly don't need meat to get strong and ripped. Just do a Google image search for "vegan bodybuilder" and you'll see countless examples. (Also, not that it relates to your own personal gains in the gym, but consider that our primate cousin, the gorilla, which shares up to 99% of our DNA and is pound-for-pound one of the strongest animals on the planet, eats a 98% herbivorous diet.)
You seem defensive, as if my post somehow challenged or contradicted what you've written, which isn't the case at all. I wasn't directing anything toward you, but simply giving feedback to the OP in a thread that seems to have mostly become a discussion of... milk.
You seem defensive, as if my post somehow challenged or contradicted what you've written, which isn't the case at all. I wasn't directing anything toward you, but simply giving feedback to the OP in a thread that seems to have mostly become a discussion of... milk.
Your posts above were intelligent, and I agree with them. I was actually going to quote you as well in my original reply when you wrote: "If you just want to be in good shape and look muscular a vegan diet is fine." Protein and amino acids are more concentrated and available in meat, which would take more care and planning (and likely supplementation) for those on a plant-based diet to get the ideal amounts for optimal muscle growth, especially for those putting their bodies through the demands of elite-level strength training programs. The OP obviously isn't at that level, though, considering that he was asking for advice here on a tennis forum, so provided that he's eating a nutritious diet that meets his body's needs, I doubt that his diet is holding back his performance in the gym.
On a side note, what's your opinion on soy vs. whey protein powder?
You seem defensive, as if my post somehow challenged or contradicted what you've written, which isn't the case at all. I wasn't directing anything toward you, but simply giving feedback to the OP in a thread that seems to have mostly become a discussion of... milk.
Your posts above were intelligent, and I agree with them. I was actually going to quote you as well in my original reply when you wrote: "If you just want to be in good shape and look muscular a vegan diet is fine." Protein and amino acids are more concentrated and available in meat, which would take more care and planning (and likely supplementation) for those on a plant-based diet to get the ideal amounts for optimal muscle growth, especially for those putting their bodies through the demands of elite-level strength training programs. The OP obviously isn't at that level, though, considering that he was asking for advice here on a tennis forum, so provided that he's eating a nutritious diet that meets his body's needs, I doubt that his diet is holding back his performance in the gym.
On a side note, what's your opinion on soy vs. whey protein powder?
Thanks for that. I skipped around a bit since the video's so long, but the uploader listed timestamps for the different topics, and the parts I watched were very informative. Also, I should have worded my question better, since I was curious about soy protein powder vs whey protein powder but didn't make that clear. The link that you posted touched on that, though, so thanks again! (I also currently avoid soy, by the way.)
Genetically modified food is a trillion dollar industry and so pervasive here that it's becoming practically unavoidable unless you're an extremely meticulous shopper or you grow and raise your own food. Most of the GMO corn and soy is used for livestock feed, so regardless of what you eat, chances are exceptionally high that there's genetically modified food somewhere in your food chain.
Actually, I think the general sentiment in the non-GMO community is that all soy, corn, and wheat are such genetically modified wrecks that they are beyond repair. You'd have to have a time machine and go back in time for a healthy version of those crops. A true non-GMO believer won't even touch organic soy, corn, or wheat.Genetically modified food is a trillion dollar industry and so pervasive here that it's becoming practically unavoidable unless you're an extremely meticulous shopper or you grow and raise your own food. Most of the GMO corn and soy is used for livestock feed, so regardless of what you eat, chances are exceptionally high that there's genetically modified food somewhere in your food chain.
