Is this a good whey protein?

[ogruskie]

http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=847#tabs Sorry I don't mean to advertise but I'd like to know if this whey is any good for general health purposes. I've always used optimum nutrition, but it's quite costly. And this price is unbelievable...only 50 bucks for 10 pounds. Thanks.

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=847#tabs Sorry I don't mean to advertise but I'd like to know if this whey is any good for general health purposes. I've always used optimum nutrition, but it's quite costly. And this price is unbelievable...only 50 bucks for 10 pounds. Thanks.

Dang...nice price. I also use the ON whey and its about $87 for 10 pounds. Now the ON whey is micronized for fast absorption. They don't reference that for this protein.

But the price is very nice!

 

[r2473]

http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=847#tabs Sorry I don't mean to advertise but I'd like to know if this whey is any good for general health purposes.

I don't know anything about this or other protein powders.

I just wanted to ask you what "general health purposes" you are addressing with a protein powder?

 

[El Diablo]

The website boasts of their relationship with Dr. Carlon Colker, the controversial fellow who went before Congress to proudly discuss his role in promoting Ephedra, the death supplement. Looks like a real cheeseball outfit.

 

[FedererUberAlles]

http://www.trueprotein.com/ This stuff is a reasonable deal. ON is good but expensive

 

[mary fierce]

Does proteinfactory make this stuff at headquarters (Brick, New Jersey!!) or bring it in from China in lead containers?

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Do they have an unflavored product (w/o sugars or Sucralose)? For some other decent low-cost isolate products, check out these:

NOW Foods - Whey Protein Isolate 100% Pure (5 lb)
BioPlex Nutrition - Pure WPI Natural Flavor (1 lb)
Other options

The website boasts of their relationship with Dr. Carlon Colker, the controversial fellow who went before Congress to proudly discuss his role in promoting Ephedra, the death supplement. Looks like a real cheeseball outfit.

Nothing like a bit of hyperbole. Note that ephedra, as Ma Huang, has been used in Chinese medicine for centuries. I suspect that it did not become a problem until if was adopted by the diet supplement industry and people started using it in excessive quantities (or used by people that should not have been using it at all).

 

[maverick66]

Nothing like a bit of hyperbole. Note that ephedra, as Ma Huang, has been used in Chinese medicine for centuries. I suspect that it did not become a problem until if was adopted by the diet supplement industry and people started using it in excessive quantities (or used by people that should not have been using it at all).

People were also mixing it with Caffeine which made your heart rate jump through the roof.

 

[OldButGame]

The website boasts of their relationship with Dr. Carlon Colker, the controversial fellow who went before Congress to proudly discuss his role in promoting Ephedra, the death supplement. Looks like a real cheeseball outfit.

Theres a lot of 'bogus' supplements (and proteins) out there,...since they're not controlled. I use a number of things,...but the yardstick i use is,....."Am I familiar with this company somewhat"????,......"Have they established a reputation in this particular community"????,.....
...My thinking is,...large companies like GNC etc,.....have far too much at stake,...to jeopardize putting a bogus or fake product out there,..and then getting exposed,....they would be finished.
....On the other hand...im leery of things like...."Uncle Bucks Super Duper Whey".....(You get the idea...).:-|

 

[rodrigoamaral]

just go with ON.. its trusted and good value

 

[Slazenger07]

I use EAS Myoplex, my recovery has never been better actually. I always drink some right after my workout, it tastes good too. I like Chocolate

 

[OldButGame]

See,....EAS is a big Co.,.....Myoplex has has been around,...has a good rep,.......and Whey IS great for recovery!!!!!....(maybe the best You can do along with some carbs). I would fully trust anything from EAS.

 

[El Diablo]

SA
Hyperbole is the official language of the supplement industry.

 

[Kevin T]

Theres a lot of 'bogus' supplements (and proteins) out there,...since they're not controlled. I use a number of things,...but the yardstick i use is,....."Am I familiar with this company somewhat"????,......"Have they established a reputation in this particular community"????,.....
...My thinking is,...large companies like GNC etc,.....have far too much at stake,...to jeopardize putting a bogus or fake product out there,..and then getting exposed,....they would be finished.
....On the other hand...im leery of things like...."Uncle Bucks Super Duper Whey".....(You get the idea...).:-|

The last issue of Consumer Reports has a nice article on heavy metal content in popular protein supplements. In particular, two of the most popular makers on the market EAS Myoplex and Muscle Milk tested very high for lead, mercury, cadmium and arsenic. It can take up to 20 years for excess cadmium and arsenic to leave the system. And CR didn't test all their supplements but as EAS uses their own "special" protein blend, it makes sense that any product containing that protein could test high. EAS is considered the industry leader in safety/accuracy of label contents/etc.

 

[OldButGame]

Dang!!!..Thats interesting....and disturbing all at once!!!!!........Maybe i wont have so much faith in 'The Big Names',....

 

[Kevin T]

Dang!!!..Thats interesting....and disturbing all at once!!!!!........Maybe i wont have so much faith in 'The Big Names',....

Absolutely. EAS was usually at the top of my list when recommending protein supplements to patients (which I rarely do). Certainly one of the better tasting protein supplements and EAS has a good relationship with the NCAA and NFL. That's why I stick with skim milk/egg whites/plain yogurt/lean meat and fish/beans/nuts. All the protein I need and much tastier.

 

[r2473]

Absolutely. EAS was usually at the top of my list when recommending protein supplements to patients (which I rarely do).

Under what circumstances would you recommend protein supplements?

 

[OldButGame]

(Cottage Cheese...another superb source.....)

 

[Funbun]

Under what circumstances would you recommend protein supplements?

I believe most people take it preferably as a post-workout shake.

 

[OldButGame]

The general feeling is that its great for 'recovery' from physically exhausting events. Post workouts,....for the muscles to utilize, or post tennis match. Its generally thought to combine this with some kind of carbohydrate as well. Theoretically Your system has a 'window' of about 1 hour after such an event in which it will 'rapidly' absorb and utilize whatever you take in. Whey also promoted the synthesis of glutathione,.....powerful immune/recovery agent,...that helps keep You from overtraining as well.....(trick is to find some 'legit' whey!!!)

 

[Ronaldo]

People were also mixing it with Caffeine which made your heart rate jump through the roof.

Back-in-the-day, what a great pick-me-up during a match.

 

[ogruskie]

I'm on a strength training program right now, and I have post workout shakes after weight training. It's a combination of whey protein/dextrose/maltodextrin. ON whey protein is great but at this point, I can't really afford it so I'm looking for cheaper alternatives.

 

[goran_ace]

I use ON Gold standard and at the GNC its probably the best value there. Make sure to compare your nutritional labels. If you think its pricey, last month they had a special bonus package with 25% more extra, otherwise join the gold club at GNC.

 

[Kevin T]

Under what circumstances would you recommend protein supplements?

Rare cases. Typically, it's a failure to thrive/behavioral feeding issues/protein-wasting disease/vegan kind of patient. Never for athletes. It's so easy to get adequate, even optimal protein, from cheaper/more natural/much tastier sources. Even post-workout when liquid nutrition is ideal, chocolate milk or a fruit juice/fruit/yogurt smoothie is soooo much cheaper/tastier/just as effective as high $$ protein drinks.

I take that back. If you're a pro bodybuilder on multiple steroids/GH/insulin, I'll give you the thumbs up for protein supplements.

 

[10ACE]

I'm on a strength training program right now, and I have post workout shakes after weight training. It's a combination of whey protein/dextrose/maltodextrin. ON whey protein is great but at this point, I can't really afford it so I'm looking for cheaper alternatives.

If you r on a budget- Costco carries Cytomax protein 10lbs bags for a great price- protein factory is good.

My choice is Natures Best- Isopure No carb protein.

Someone suggested Cottage cheese, which is casein, a slow digested protein, great for before bed snack

 

[ogruskie]

Rare cases. Typically, it's a failure to thrive/behavioral feeding issues/protein-wasting disease/vegan kind of patient. Never for athletes. It's so easy to get adequate, even optimal protein, from cheaper/more natural/much tastier sources. Even post-workout when liquid nutrition is ideal, chocolate milk or a fruit juice/fruit/yogurt smoothie is soooo much cheaper/tastier/just as effective as high $$ protein drinks.

I take that back. If you're a pro bodybuilder on multiple steroids/GH/insulin, I'll give you the thumbs up for protein supplements.

Wow you sound like an incredibly butthurt little girl. Do you struggle to lift basic 5 pound dumbells? LOL

Everyone else, thanks.

 

[Kevin T]

Wow you sound like an incredibly butthurt little girl. Do you struggle to lift basic 5 pound dumbells? LOL

Everyone else, thanks.

I have a PhD in human nutrition/nutritional biochemistry and am a Registered Dietitian and American College of Sports Medicine certified Exercise Specialist. I've worked with athletes in the ACC, SEC, Olympic training center in San Diego and played football at Virginia Tech. I'm 6'3", 225# and would have little trouble lifting you, let alone 5lb dumbells. Keep believing the marketing hype and blowing what little money you have on supplements to pump those arms up from 12" to 13". Tell me Joe Weider, how do prison inmates, on 3 squares/day+candy bars from the vending machine and Marlboro Lights get bigger and stronger than you ever will, all without the magical help of supplements?

 

[r2473]

Rare cases. Typically, it's a failure to thrive/behavioral feeding issues/protein-wasting disease/vegan kind of patient. Never for athletes. It's so easy to get adequate, even optimal protein, from cheaper/more natural/much tastier sources. Even post-workout when liquid nutrition is ideal, chocolate milk or a fruit juice/fruit/yogurt smoothie is soooo much cheaper/tastier/just as effective as high $$ protein drinks.

I take that back. If you're a pro bodybuilder on multiple steroids/GH/insulin, I'll give you the thumbs up for protein supplements.

Kevin and I were in the gym together this morning fighting over the same pink dumbbells Another common-sense answer from you (that has no place here or anywhere else).

Your bodybuilder comment is funny too (because it is true). Only those guys have the T that can convert the extra P into M (I hope I am using the correct bodybuilder lettering and make any sense at all).

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

I have a PhD in human nutrition/nutritional biochemistry and am a Registered Dietitian and American College of Sports Medicine certified Exercise Specialist. I've worked with athletes in the ACC, SEC, Olympic training center in San Diego and played football at Virginia Tech. I'm 6'3", 225# and would have little trouble lifting you, let alone 5lb dumbells. Keep believing the marketing hype and blowing what little money you have on supplements to pump those arms up from 12" to 13". Tell me Joe Weider, how do prison inmates, on 3 squares/day+candy bars from the vending machine and Marlboro Lights get bigger and stronger than you ever will, all without the magical help of supplements?

Prisoners? Well my best buddy from elementary school went nuts and killed 2 people, he is on death row. He has no ban on protein supplements that arrive in sealed containers and are put through an Xray machine, the inmates mix them with water and have them anytime they want. And that is death row. Regular population guys are able to protein supplement when they want.

Many inmates become experts. They lift heavy, read up on the latest research, and take a variety of supplements, especially protein.

 

[TnTBigman]

I used to be a huge EAS fanatic back in the late 90's. Just their name had me in wonder....Experimental and Applied Sciences. You'd see their supps in GNC in a locked plexigalss cabinet as if any spill of their contexts would casue anything to grow. Their advertising and marketing was genius. Remember their "Evolution of the Working out man" ads. Phosphocreatine HP, Myoplex Mass, HMB (expensive crap). They were on top of trends and sometimes setting them. Then they solidified their "credo" by brining out 2 anaual Supplements Review books, critiquing current and new supps (and Companies) at the time. Even offering info on muscle building trainings schemes (German Volume Training and Anabolic cycling something). They really built a name for themselves under that "Body for Life" guy (I forgot his name. too lazy to search). But they have since sold that brand to Abbot Labs.
Now older, and with lots of wisdom, I suggest going to your local Wholefoods store and buy a simple Whey Protein Isolate powder- that list the precautons they took to prevent protein denaturization. Biochem is a really good brand that I like.

 

[r2473]

Now older, and with lots of wisdom, I suggest going to your local Wholefoods store and buy a simple Whey Protein Isolate powder- that list the precautons they took to prevent protein denaturization. Biochem is a really good brand that I like.

Can you explain your need for additional protein / protein supplementation?

1) Why do you need it?

2) What is it doing for you?

 

[Kevin T]

Kevin and I were in the gym together this morning fighting over the same pink dumbbells Another common-sense answer from you (that has no place here or anywhere else).

Your bodybuilder comment is funny too (because it is true). Only those guys have the T that can convert the extra P into M (I hope I am using the correct bodybuilder lettering and make any sense at all).

I'm partial to purple, so I let it slide. My common sense is starting to reach its limits again. I usually only have the time to pop in on this section every few weeks or so, but what's the point. So many good MDs, chiros, trainers, tennis pros and stringers (Tom Martinez comes to mind) used to post but don't come around anymore.

 

[Talker]

Can you explain your need for additional protein / protein supplementation?

1) Why do you need it?

2) What is it doing for you?

With extra protein your covering all bases. There's less chance your body will be caught missing the base material to build muscle and aid in recovery.

For myself, I use it after workouts, tennis etc. It's quick,easy and I know how much I'm getting. ON nutrition is about 50 cents per serving when you buy the 10 LB bag.
My personal mixture: Powderize a whole 42 oz cannister of oatmeal using a blender(about half full of oatmeal)and put it back into the cannister for later use.
Once the oatmeal is in powder form you can mix it with protein 1:1 ratio in water with minimal fuss. One scoop of each. If you want mix it with half water and half chocolate milk, it's a little nutty tasting and satisfying.
Eat a little regular protein/carb meal a hour later and just go into normal eating after that.

This can be a small meal too and it's quick, good if you want to lose weight but not skimp on nutrition. Of course this is a good time to take water soluble nutrients.

 

[Kevin T]

Prisoners? Well my best buddy from elementary school went nuts and killed 2 people, he is on death row. He has no ban on protein supplements that arrive in sealed containers and are put through an Xray machine, the inmates mix them with water and have them anytime they want. And that is death row. Regular population guys are able to protein supplement when they want.

Many inmates become experts. They lift heavy, read up on the latest research, and take a variety of supplements, especially protein.

How many death row inmates, let alone the total prison population, do you think receive monthly shipments of whey protein and other supplements? And this protein supplementation, not hard training or calorie intake, is responsible for their size/strength? What about before these supplements became so popular/available?

 

[Ronaldo]

Took away the weights and protein powder, http://www.unclebloodycolin.com/files/prison-pink-tops.jpg

 

[maverick66]

ahh the protein argument. Its a funny one. One side says its garbage and no one needs it and the other thinks there arms will fall off without it.

First thing is to always look at your starting diet. If your diet sucks no supplement matters. It is always better to get your nutritional needs from food. That shouldnt really be argued.

As for supplements I dont 100% agree with KevinT that they have no use but I will agree with him that most people could do without them. I used to take one protein shake every morning before practice but that was because I struggle to eat in the morning and it was much easier to drink my calories in the morning.

 

[Kevin T]

With extra protein your covering all bases. There's less chance your body will be caught missing the base material to build muscle and aid in recovery.

For myself, I use it after workouts, tennis etc. It's quick,easy and I know how much I'm getting. ON nutrition is about 50 cents per serving when you buy the 10 LB bag.
My personal mixture: Powderize a whole 42 oz cannister of oatmeal using a blender(about half full of oatmeal)and put it back into the cannister for later use.
Once the oatmeal is in powder form you can mix it with protein 1:1 ratio in water with minimal fuss. One scoop of each. If you want mix it with half water and half chocolate milk, it's a little nutty tasting and satisfying.
Eat a little regular protein/carb meal a hour later and just go into normal eating after that.

This can be a small meal too and it's quick, good if you want to lose weight but not skimp on nutrition. Of course this is a good time to take water soluble nutrients.

But why do you need protein supplementation? The data show that the average American eats ~15-20% of kcal as protein (depending on the data you look at and athletes always eat more overall kcal and protein from food sources). The American College of Sports Medicine guidelines for protein intake for athletes (not sedentary people) is 1.2-1.7g/kg bodyweight. If someone like me, ~100kg, eats 3000kcal/day (which I easily do), that's 113-150g protein each day, or 1.1-1.5g/kg.

 

[Kevin T]

ahh the protein argument. Its a funny one. One side says its garbage and no one needs it and the other thinks there arms will fall off without it.

First thing is to always look at your starting diet. If your diet sucks no supplement matters. It is always better to get your nutritional needs from food. That shouldnt really be argued.

As for supplements I dont 100% agree with KevinT that they have no use but I will agree with him that most people could do without them. I used to take one protein shake every morning before practice but that was because I struggle to eat in the morning and it was much easier to drink my calories in the morning.

Not saying they have no use, just that the very large majority do not need the supplementation (see above post).

 

[OldButGame]

Rare cases. Typically, it's a failure to thrive/behavioral feeding issues/protein-wasting disease/vegan kind of patient. Never for athletes. It's so easy to get adequate, even optimal protein, from cheaper/more natural/much tastier sources. Even post-workout when liquid nutrition is ideal, chocolate milk or a fruit juice/fruit/yogurt smoothie is soooo much cheaper/tastier/just as effective as high $$ protein drinks.

I take that back. If you're a pro bodybuilder on multiple steroids/GH/insulin, I'll give you the thumbs up for protein supplements.

I've heard chocolate milk more than once recommended as a post workout' drink,.....has protein.....(casein......good stuff....)....and carbohydrates,.....all in one drink. My post workout drinks are chocolate milk w/ a little whey mixed in.

...Tastes great too !!!!!!!!

 

[r2473]

^^ One more vote for chocolate milk post-workout.

The basics for me however still center around eating sufficient complex carbs to fuel my activities.

I'll throw out a disclaimer at this point and state quite freely that I don't have any schooling to back up what I do. This is simply a holdover from my running days when I ate tons of complex (and not so complex) carbs.

I can remember eating spoonfuls mayonnaise straight from the jar on more than one occasion.

 

[Kevin T]

I've heard chocolate milk more than once recommended as a post workout' drink,.....has protein.....(casein......good stuff....)....and carbohydrates,.....all in one drink. My post workout drinks are chocolate milk w/ a little whey mixed in.

...Tastes great too !!!!!!!!

Yep. And you can make it organic and devoid of synthetics/artificial sweeteners, flavors, colors and preservatives. Tastes much better, is much cheaper and works the same. All with no danger of cadmium poisoning.

 

[Ronaldo]

I've heard chocolate milk more than once recommended as a post workout' drink,.....has protein.....(casein......good stuff....)....and carbohydrates,.....all in one drink. My post workout drinks are chocolate milk w/ a little whey mixed in.

...Tastes great too !!!!!!!!

No problem with the extra sugar?

 

[TennisCoachFLA]

But why do you need protein supplementation? The data show that the average American eats ~15-20% of kcal as protein (depending on the data you look at and athletes always eat more overall kcal and protein from food sources). The American College of Sports Medicine guidelines for protein intake for athletes (not sedentary people) is 1.2-1.7g/kg bodyweight. If someone like me, ~100kg, eats 3000kcal/day (which I easily do), that's 113-150g protein each day, or 1.1-1.5g/kg.

You are spouting your opinion, not actual scientific studies. Government guidelines may be very wrong, who knows. And you can not lump all athletes together without taking into account intensity and metabolism. From Vanderbilt University Sports Science Department:

A study done by Fern et. al (1991) showed that greater gains in body mass occur over four weeks of heavy weight training when men consumed 3.3 versus 1.3 grams if protein per kilogram of body mass. In addition a study done by Meredith et al. (1992) found that a daily dietary supplement containing 23 grams of protein combined with weight training can enhance muscle mass gains relative to similar subjects who trained with out the supplement. Both of the studies show support for the belief that increased protein in the diet can help increase muscle mass.

 

[r2473]

A study done by Fern et. al (1991) showed that greater gains in body mass occur over four weeks of heavy weight training when men consumed 3.3 versus 1.3 grams if protein per kilogram of body mass. In addition a study done by Meredith et al. (1992) found that a daily dietary supplement containing 23 grams of protein combined with weight training can enhance muscle mass gains relative to similar subjects who trained with out the supplement. Both of the studies show support for the belief that increased protein in the diet can help increase muscle mass.

One only talks about body mass increases. I can effectively increase my body mass by eating LOTS of anything high in calories.

None of what you cited talk in terms of numbers (ounces or pounds of muscle gain) or percentages.

My questions for you are:

1) Do you think additional protein consumption aids in building muscle?

2) If yes, what types of additional gains are we talking about? Over what time period.

3) Lets put this into context. I am a 6 foot male. 28 years old. I have never weight trained in my life. I'm going to start tomorrow. If I do everything correctly for muscle mass building, how much additional MUSCLE (lbs.) can I expect to gain in one year if I eat "enough" protein?

How much additional muscle (lbs.) can I expect to gain in one year if I just eat lots of food / calories but my protein isn't "enough"?

I realize you will say "there are many factors involved here.....", but just generalize for me. I'm interested in your opinion.

Thanks.

 

[Kevin T]

You are spouting your opinion, not actual scientific studies. Government guidelines may be very wrong, who knows. And you can not lump all athletes together without taking into account intensity and metabolism. From Vanderbilt University Sports Science Department:

A study done by Fern et. al (1991) showed that greater gains in body mass occur over four weeks of heavy weight training when men consumed 3.3 versus 1.3 grams if protein per kilogram of body mass. In addition a study done by Meredith et al. (1992) found that a daily dietary supplement containing 23 grams of protein combined with weight training can enhance muscle mass gains relative to similar subjects who trained with out the supplement. Both of the studies show support for the belief that increased protein in the diet can help increase muscle mass.

I'm not spouting my opinion. I'm spouting the evidence-based conclusions of professionals in these fields of study. And these aren't government guidelines, they're the conclusions of scientists/exercise physiologists/nutritionists. This protein range is pretty wide and takes into account differences in gender/age/metabolism/intensity. By the way, I've included the rest of the paragraph you quoted, which comes to a quite different conclusion (not to mention we're talking 2 studies with small sample sizes):

"A study done by Fern et. al (1991) showed that greater gains in body mass occur over four weeks of heavy weight training when young men consumed 3.3 versus 1.3 grams if protein per kilogram of body mass. In addition a study done by Meredith et al. (1992) found that a daily dietary supplement containing 23 grams of protein combined with weight training can enhance muscle mass gains relative to similar subjects who trained with out the supplement."

But read these last few sentences carefully:


"Both of the studies show support for the belief that increased protein in the diet can help increase muscle mass, but it should be noted that these effects were found with a combination of intake and training. These two studies further indicated that a protein intake of about 1.7 - 1.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day, when combined with weight training will enhance muscle development compared with similar training with an intake of 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight per day (5.) However, it is important to note that there is little good evidence that the very high protein intakes (more than 2 grams per kilogram of body weight per day) typically consumed by strength athletes are beneficial. Moreover, it is possible to obtain this quantity of protein without special supplementation assuming a mixed diet containing sufficient energy is consumed."

And read the entire article (part of the psych dept., not exercise science/nutrition, by the way).

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Protein.htm

It's on the first page of a Google search.

Here's a link to the position stands of the American College of Sports Medicine; the members of which actually perform good research and come to evidence-based (not anecdotal) conclusions per the data. These are the guys and gals that actually train NCAA and pro level athletes AND COLLECT THE DATA/PEFORM THE EXPERIMENTS/STUDIES THAT= GOOD RESEARCH.

http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/pages/collectiondetails.aspx?TopicalCollectionId=1

 

[OldButGame]

No problem with the extra sugar?

No,....My system is so depleted after a workout or match,...that im often just bringing it back to starting point. (I feel like):-|

 

[Talker]

But why do you need protein supplementation? The data show that the average American eats ~15-20% of kcal as protein (depending on the data you look at and athletes always eat more overall kcal and protein from food sources). The American College of Sports Medicine guidelines for protein intake for athletes (not sedentary people) is 1.2-1.7g/kg bodyweight. If someone like me, ~100kg, eats 3000kcal/day (which I easily do), that's 113-150g protein each day, or 1.1-1.5g/kg.

It's just a way to get what my body needs quickly and precisely. You can put the powder in a used gatorade bottle and just add water, very convenient.
You don't get what you don't want, saturated fats, trans fats.
You can add dextrose and maltodextrin if you want.
And add other things like vitamins and herbs, l-glutamine.
For me it isn't just about protein but an optimized meal at a critical time for repair and recovery.

I also take it early morning if running late instead of making breakfast or any other time I just want a quick meal.

 

[ogruskie]

Regardless of what people argue, I will continue buying protein powder. No where in this topic did I post my actual diet, yet people still somehow assume that it's my primary source of protein. Like I said, I use it as a post-workout shake in addition to my diet. Over the past 2 months I've added over 50 pounds to all my major lifts (bench/deadlift/squat) and lost a decent amount of weight. I'm not going to change what's working for me.

 

[DarthCow]

Sorry to be a little off topic, but it's mildy related to the OP.

I was given a tub of this today for free.
http://www.mtcapra.com/double-bonded-protein/

I never really thought about buying supplements before.

Since I've started my attempt to build some more muscle mass (the past 2 weeks) through a weight regime, I haven't noticed as much of a result as I would have liked. I'd imagine a protein hit would aid my efforts rather then harming them?

Is it advised to take the whey I posted above
1:In the mornings
or
2:After a workout?
(Oh, and just once a day?)

Once again sorry, but I'm just wanting to be sure.

 

[PCXL-Fan]

You don't wanna rely too much on whey protein isolates. The fat is removed, yet fat is important in the body in processing protein and essential for other functions. Even saturated fat is important to the body and has been far to demonized by the in the media and by some healthcare practitioners.

That consumer report article on elevated cadmium and lead, is very enlightening. With many of the protein isolates you don't know the quality of their dairy source. And you are taking a leap of faith that because they are a large supplement business they will have quality products. But how do you know they aren't getting their dairy source from the cheapest locations? 'Made in america or canada' only needs to mean only the final end of production was conducted in northamerican facilities. So for example the milk could come form china where the local farmers sneak melamine in their dairy to achieve chinese government milk-protein standards and be able to sell watered down milk for rock bottom prices (which is why so many infant formula manufacturers looked to china for their milk source).

An anology would be to look at the business practices of the pharmaceutical industry. They often are profit driven before consumer health driven. Prior to the FDA and even now days they would hide health concerns about their products + co-opt the regulatory agencies overseeing them, and even now with regulations are still often caught putting their profits ahead of consumer health.