Ivanisevic : ‘Novak Djokovic is the Robin Hood of tennis’

[Mustard]

I don't really care about the interview, I am still just amazed that a serbian player has a croatian coach, even though I don't know what Goran actually does. They both deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for working together.

Goran Ivanisevic's first wife, Tatjana Dragovic, is Serbian. They were only married from 2009-2013, but they were together as far back as the mid 1990s.

 

[Edgecrusher]

He will never be missed (other than by his fans)…Goran is a clown…

Good to see you’re still the same idiot you were back then when I left this board.

 

[jm1980]

The Robin Hood of Tennis at it again:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1413572250175954956

 

[Mustard]

A similar experience for Djokovic would be the 2007 US Open final, blowing those set points against Federer.

 

[skaj]

With PTPA, Novak is stealing absolute power from the hands of rich and controlling ATP elite, in order to get more money and better conditions to below top20/top50 players. ATP elites are taking most of the money all tennis players generate, and Novak is aiming to bring more balance to profits distribution, while protecting interests of players.
There, now you know.

And try to somehow achieve the good guy image that way, because he is desperate to be liked.

 

[itrium84]

And try to somehow achieve the good guy image that way, because he is desperate to be liked.

Bad guy image is shared between a big part of western media and majority of Fedal fandom.
I believe Novak would stay at the front of ATP council if he only wanted to polish his western media presentation. He would play a role of good guy there, never changing anything, leaving power structures unchallenged. With PTPA, he has "gone rogue", made his media image worse, gave more ammo to Fedal fans.
He is definitely "hungry for love", but not hungry enough to compromise his moral principles in exchange for more popularity.

 

[ballamaz]

Regardless of whether he wants to be liked he does deserve basic respect.

Being no. 1 he should be able to have an opinion on how the tour is run.

But it's not about what he says. Some ppl just don't like him, whatever point of view he has is bad.

 

[skaj]

Bad guy image is shared between a big part of western media and majority of Fedal fandom.
I believe Novak would stay at the front of ATP council if he only wanted to polish his western media presentation. He would play a role of good guy there, never changing anything, leaving power structures unchallenged. With PTPA, he has "gone rogue", made his media image worse, gave more ammo to Fedal fans.
He is definitely "hungry for love", but not hungry enough to compromise his moral principles in exchange for more popularity.

He obviously did not make it at that position, did he, so he needs to find another way. You know, beside interacting with ball kids in front of the camera, organizing press conferences every times he gives a donation for the charities, tries his best(and fails) to sound well-spoken in interviews, etc.

By the way, what is "western media presentation"? Every presentation of him outside Serbia?

 

[itrium84]

Wh

He obviously did not make it at that position, did he, so he needs to find another way. You know, beside interacting with ball kids in front of the camera, organizing press conferences every times he gives a donation for the charities, tries his best(and fails) to sound well-spoken in interviews, etc.

By the way, what is "western media presentation"? Every presentation of him outside Serbia?

What position do you mean - ATP council or PTPA one?
Do you believe west is whole world except Serbia, so western media would be all media except Serbian media?

 

[skaj]

Wh

What position do you mean - ATP council or PTPA one?
Do you believe west is whole world except Serbia, so western media would be all media except Serbian media?

Oh dear.

Okay, I will explain if you really didn't get it.

So, "He obviously did not make it at that position, did he, so he needs to find another way."- one is ATP council the other is PTPA(or what's her name). Perhaps you try to figure it out which is which for practice, if you still don't get it I will help, okay?

The point of my comment about the media was that only in Serbia they are not telling the truth about him in the media presentation.

 

[itrium84]

Oh dear.

Okay, I will explain if you really didn't get it.

So, "He obviously did not make it at that position, did he, so he needs to find another way."- one is ATP council the other is PTPA(or what's her name). Perhaps you try to figure it out which is which for practice, if you still don't get it I will help, okay?

The point of my comment about the media was that only in Serbia they are not telling the truth about him in the media presentation.

Western media is truth-telling presentation service, and not a reality-distorting propaganda tool? Tell us more

 

[jltman]

You're right, he's never done anything objectionable

Lol this is how a 12 year old gives up on a losing argument

 

[skaj]

Western media is truth-telling presentation service, and not a reality-distorting propaganda tool? Tell us more

I am not gonna tell you more of what you say, I leave that to - you.
What I will tell is what I was telling you about already - that the coverage of Novak Djokovic in Serbian media is disturbingly reality-distorting.

 

[itrium84]

I am not gonna tell you more of what you say, I leave that to - you.
What I will tell is what I was telling you about already - that the coverage of Novak Djokovic in Serbian media is disturbingly reality-distorting.

Of course it is. As it is in Spanish, US or British (and any other) media.
I don't really care for media coverage anywhere about anything.

 

[skaj]

Of course it is. As it is in Spanish, US or British (and any other) media.
I don't really care for media coverage anywhere about anything.

Of course it isn't, cause they don't really care about him in those places. In Serbia they do, in a very, very unhealthy way.

 

[itrium84]

Of course it isn't, cause they don't really care about him in those places. In Serbia they do, in a very, very unhealthy way.

I don't know about serbian media, but claiming western media is better (in any way) than any other media is so naive. It's all propaganda machines that sole purpose is to drive agenda.

 

[skaj]

I don't know about serbian media, but claiming western media is better (in any way) than any other media is so naive. It's all propaganda machines that sole purpose is to drive agenda.

Claiming that any media is better in presenting Novak Djokovic than Serbian media is not naive, it's simple fact.

 

[daphne]

I don't know about serbian media, but claiming western media is better (in any way) than any other media is so naive. It's all propaganda machines that sole purpose is to drive agenda.

Western media houses have bought small and cheap media houses from non-western countries, anyway. So whatever they try to present goes first through the western HQ.

For instance the biggest one in Serbia

Ownership Structure
Blic is owned by Ringier Axel Spinger ltd, the Serbian subsidiary of Ringier Axel Springer Media AG from Switzerland, in which the latter has a 100% ownership stake.
Group / Individual Owner
Ringier AG
Ringier AG is a privately owned multinational media company established in Switzerland in 1833. In addition to over 120 printed publications worldwide, Ringier owns significant shares in a number of TV and radio stations and produces a range of TV programs. It is also very active in the online media world, with more than 200 internet or mobile portals that it manages. With its headquarters in Zurich, Ringier employs over 7,000 employees worldwide.

50%
Axel Springer SE
Publishing house Axel Springer was established in 1946 by Axel Springer and has its headquarters in Berlin, employing more than 11,000 people. Since its creation in 1946, it has become one of the largest newspaper and magazine publishers in Germany and a major European media company. Its portfolio of printed outlets includes famous publications such as Das Bild and Die Welt. Its international business interests and digital media account for a major part of its revenues.


That is why Fedr is always presented well in the local press.

 

[itrium84]

Claiming that any media is better in presenting Novak Djokovic than Serbian media is not naive, it's simple fact.

Nah, just naive. You act like there's truthfull western media in opposition to lying serbian media. Your faith in objective and truthfull media is naive.

 

[skaj]

Nah, just naive. You act like there's truthfull western media in opposition to lying serbian media. Your faith in objective and truthfull media is naive.

You are saying no, after admitting that you don't know about Serbian media.
I am acting the way you described only in your head. Your ideas about my faith in objective and truthful media are also only in your head. In reality I am merely saying what I have already said and you failed to understand - Serbian media is the least objective when it comes to presenting Novak Djokovic, compared not only to the western media you seem to be obsessed with but with any other media.

I hope that it is clear now. In future please think before you write and try to avoid knee jerk comments, it will save us all some time.

 

[chrischris]

This is Ivanisevic's main point: “Sometimes people only pick out the bad things he does. They don’t see the good he does in helping others. He is the person who is not afraid to speak out, the only tennis player who stands up for the other players"

I see that a lot with Djokovic haters. They only see the "bad" things he does, and either dismiss the good things he does as him "fake" and "trying to be liked," or otherwise distort them into negatives

And its a valid point.

 

[PrinceMoron]

There is a certain resemblance

 

[MichaelNadal]

There is a certain resemblance

 

[Sorry_to_tell_you_mate]

Is he calling him effeminate?