Miami may lose Masters 1000 event.

Chicharito

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Christopher Clarey ‏@christophclarey 20h20 hours ago
What is clear is if WME/IMG does decide to move the Miami Open, there will be no shortage of takers. Masters 1000 is a hot global commodity


My guess would be Rio would be in with a great chance. Surely the new Olympic facility will get a tournament. Maybe the WTF?

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After a big loss on appeal, the Miami Open tennis tournament may be closing the door on staying in Key Biscayne’s Crandon Park.

Amplifying a familiar warning, the for-profit tourney’s lawyer says an exit to another city is a virtual certainty on the heels of last week’s defeat before the Third District Court of Appeal. He said the only variable is how long it will take the Open to leave after losing its challenge to growth restrictions at the county-owned Crandon, home to the tourney that each spring draws some of the biggest stars in tennis and about 300,000 attendees.

“At some point, it’s going to be gone. The only question is when,” said Eugene Stearns, the Miami lawyer who represented the tournament in its losing effort to overturn the county rules and allow for the Miami Open to begin a $50 million expansion plan at Crandon.

Tournament owner International Players Championship Inc. has an eight-year commitment in its contract with Miami-Dade, but Stearns maintains that agreement is no longer valid because the county has failed to provide an updated home for the yearly event.

“I can’t predict whether the tournament is going to want to stick it out for the next eight years,” he said. “They’ll certainly have to consider their options. Under the circumstances, this has become a hostile environment to conduct business.”

Late last week, the Third DCA ruled against the Open with a single-sheet ruling affirming a lower court’s ruling that upheld the Crandon restrictions. That came on the heels of an oral argument where the appellate judges took the rare step of asking no questions of the lawyers — a sign that the judges weren’t that interested in exploring the dispute.

The opinion-free decision makes further appeal impossible, meaning the Open would have to convince the Third DCA to write a decision before it could even pursue relief in front of the Florida Supreme Court.

“I’m not going to hold my breath,” Stearns said.

At the heart of the dispute is Bruce Matheson, a descendant of the original family that owned Crandon. The land continues to be governed by restrictions tied to the 1940 donation of the property to the county. The Mathesons, at the time large land holders on Key Biscayne, required Miami-Dade to build a bridge to the island after accepting the 975 acres for Crandon, which was required to be operated only for “public park purposes.”

Other Mathesons sued to block creating a large stadium to serve the tennis tournament in the 1980s, and the litigation was settled in part by creating a four-person committee to approve any changes to the park’s master plan. A non-profit picked by the Matheson family, the National Parks Conservation Association, holds half of the seats and named Bruce Matheson to one of them.

From his post, Matheson has become a top foe of the tennis tournament, which sued him and Miami-Dade last year to have the committee declared illegal. In a written brief to the Third DCA, the tournament stated: “This appeal asks this Court to return control of Crandon Park to the people and their elected representatives.” Oren Rosenthal, an assistant county attorney handling the case, declined to comment.

Miami Open executives did not respond to interview requests this week, but the blunt comments from their lawyer follow a broader argument from the annual event: clear the way for it to create a new tennis complex or risk losing the pro tourney to another city.

Tournament officials have declined to tamp down speculation that a new tennis facility in Orlando would be a good alternative for the Open, and last month tourney chief Adam Barrett noted cities as far away as Dubai and Beijing would welcome the kind of pro tennis event that’s been held in Key Biscayne since the 1980s.

The Third DCA ruling could prompt the Open to act on its warnings about a departure. Or the finality of the legal fight could pressure tournament officials to negotiate a more modest expansion plan with Matheson and the NPCA.

“They already have the one stadium,” said Richard Ovelmen, Matheson’s lawyer. “They could ask the Amendment Committee to make improvements to it. But what they can’t do is add a bunch of stadiums or permanent structures.” In its brief to the Third DCA, Miami-Dade wrote that the tournament “abandoned” the process of trying to amend the master plan “in favor of this wasteful and unmeritorious litigation.”

The tournament, an arm of the IMG sports conglomerate, began building political pressure for the expansion in 2012, when it championed a countywide ballot question endorsing the $50 million plan to redo the main 14,000-seat tennis stadium at Crandon and create two other permanent stadiums where smaller courts now stand. The ballot item passed with 73 percent of the vote.

Miami Open pledged to pay for the construction, but the agreement with Miami-Dade also includes a 50-year extension on the tournament’s Crandon lease, as well as a new year-round management deal that has the tourney acting as the private operator of the public tennis courts.

The county deals calls for Miami-Dade to pay Miami Open $1.8 million a year in management fees, but the county expects to save about $850,000 a year by not having to dedicate staff to facility year-round., according to a 2013 summary. Miami Open would pay at least $1.5 million a year to host the tournament, and Miami-Dade would pay $14 million over 14 years in capital improvements for the facility.

Mayra Peña Lindsay, Key Biscayne’s mayor, said losing the tournament would definitely create a “void” in the affluent island village, where the pro tennis matches are a popular draw each year for locals. But she noted the original Matheson suit from the 1980s enjoyed support from Key Biscayne residents, and that the restrictions that came from that litigation made the current tournament’s traffic and other complications “bearable.”

“Bruce Matheson is very respected in terms of kind of being the watchdog and the person that keeps the park a park,” she said.

In an interview, Matheson said he wasn’t overly concerned about Key Biscayne losing the Open.

“The economic destiny of Miami-Dade County and Crandon Park does not depend on a two-week tennis tournament,” he said.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
A MS1000/WTA Premier "fifth major" (sorry, sureshs Cinci-lover) in Orlando at an even more remote location??? Puhleeze! It would be gone in five years, just like the U.S. Clay Court Championship.

I like the idea of a grass event to replace it but where at that time of year???
 
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Deleted member 77403

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A MS1000/WTA Premier "fifth major" (sorry, sureshs Cinci-lover) in Orlando at an even more remote location??? Puhleeze! It would be gone in five years, just like the U.S. Clay Court Championship.

I like the idea of a grass event to replace it but where at that time of year???

If only RG were OK with starting a week earlier, we could have then started the whole clay season after IW, minus Davis Cup weekend. Then, we have four weeks before W, perfect time to add a big grass court event anywhere really, since there is plenty of time.
 

NBP

Hall of Fame
So if it's gone by 2017 and Djokovic hasn't won Cincy by then, he's back to 7/9 amirite?
Nope. Novak will still have won 8 of 9. It's about the nine masters slots, Novak has 8 of them.
Then why do the ATP say Nadal is missing Shanghai, when he won Madrid indoors in the same slot in 2005?
 
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So if it's gone by 2017 and Djokovic hasn't won Cincy by then, he's back to 7/9 amirite?

Then why do the ATP say Nadal is missing Shanghai, when he won Madrid indoors in the same slot in 2005?

While Nadal hasn't won the Shanghai title, he still has 7 of the 9 masters events, and to complete the set of nine, he is missing Miami and Paris, slot 2 and 9. The thing about the nine masters is that unlike the slams, there are no truly fixed events. Events can lose 1000 status, while others can be promoted to 1000 status.

Take a look at Federer on the clay, now while he has won clay masters multiple times in Hamburg and Madrid each, it still counts as one. Because Madrid clay replaced Hamburg clay in its slot.
 
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Just to add that. Suppose all the masters changed status, except Cincy.

Do you think Djokovic needs to win all the new 8 masters also to complete the set, or just win Cincy?
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
If only RG were OK with starting a week earlier, we could have then started the whole clay season after IW, minus Davis Cup weekend. Then, we have four weeks before W, perfect time to add a big grass court event anywhere really, since there is plenty of time.
Forgive my American bias, but I would like to keep that Masters/Premier tourney here in the U.S. Maybe the good folks in Broward/Palm Beach tennis crazy South Florida will come to the rescue but it won't be grass courts or anytime other than April.

If it's grass in late Spring/early Summer, it'll have to be in Europe. Stuttgart has the room to expand their facility to accommodate an ATP/WTA combined event.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Forgive my American bias, but I would like to keep that Masters/Premier tourney here in the U.S. Maybe the good folks in Broward/Palm Beach tennis crazy South Florida will come to the rescue but it won't be grass courts or anytime other than April.

If it's grass in late Spring/early Summer, it'll have to be in Europe. Stuttgart has the room to expand their facility to accommodate an ATP/WTA combined event.
Forgive my European bias, but America's got enough yo :D ;)
 

NBP

Hall of Fame
While Nadal hasn't won the Shanghai title, he still has 7 of the 9 masters events, and to complete the set of nine, he is missing Miami and Paris, slot 2 and 9. The thing about the nine masters is that unlike the slams, there are no truly fixed events. Events can lose 1000 status, while others can be promoted to 1000 status.

Take a look at Federer on the clay, now while he has won clay masters multiple times in Hamburg and Madrid each, it still counts as one. Because Madrid clay replaced Hamburg clay in its slot.
No yeah you're definitely correct in that regard. It's still a bit confusing. Why should Fed be penalised for winning Hamburg? It was heavy conditions which is different from Madrid, so it should count as another. But in terms of current Masters 1000, I do think the ATP stance on the matter is winning all the current ones. I'm sure they do state that Nadal is still missing Shanghai. So from that standpoint, I do think if Miami is gone, Djokovic will go back to 7/9. There was such an emphasis when Fed won Shanghai in 2014, saying it was his first, even though he won Madrid in the same slot in 2006. So yeah, if it goes, I'm pretty sure Novak is back to 7/9.
 
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Forgive my American bias, but I would like to keep that Masters/Premier tourney here in the U.S. Maybe the good folks in Broward/Palm Beach tennis crazy South Florida will come to the rescue but it won't be grass courts or anytime other than April.

If it's grass in late Spring/early Summer, it'll have to be in Europe. Stuttgart has the room to expand their facility to accommodate an ATP/WTA combined event.

I don't really care where it is, as long as it makes sense on the tour.
 

Chicharito

Hall of Fame
Africa does need a tournament.

I would like to see the WTF move, do a few 2 year spells in places such as India, South Africa, Brazil. If it has to go to Doha twice to cover their losses then so be it.
 
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No yeah you're definitely correct in that regard. It's still a bit confusing. Why should Fed be penalised for winning Hamburg? It was heavy conditions which is different from Madrid, so it should count as another. But in terms of current Masters 1000, I do think the ATP stance on the matter is winning all the current ones. I'm sure they do state that Nadal is still missing Shanghai. So from that standpoint, I do think if Miami is gone, Djokovic will go back to 7/9. There was such an emphasis when Fed won Shanghai in 2014, saying it was his first, even though he won Madrid in the same slot in 2006. So yeah, if it goes, I'm pretty sure Novak is back to 7/9.

ATP are very shrewd with what they are saying. They say Nadal is missing Shanghai. But ask them how many of nine masters has Nadal conquered and they will say seven. While he hasn't won the Shanghai title, he has still seven of the nine masters, remember they are not like slams, they can move around, like the WTF, which is a much more exaggerated form of a tournament being able to move from place to place but still keep its prestige.

So, Novak will still have 8 out of 9. Just like how Nadal has 7 of 9.

Take a look at Federer, he was won IW, Miami, Hamburg, Madrid clay, Madrid indoors, Shanghai, Paris, Cincinnati, Canada. That is nine different masters events, but he is only put down for 7 of them, because some of them replaced others.
 
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Forgive my old math, but we have three and one slam while you have four and two slams, yo!:D;)

Don't forget the WTF also.

But if you are looking at Europe, then compare it continent to continent, not continent to one country. N America has four masters.
 

Seth

Legend
Selfishly, I wish it would stay as I'm only three hours away.

Now I'm only left with the Delray Beach 250.
 

Shaolin

G.O.A.T.
Excellent news.

Karma for their slow as molasses, garbage hard court over the years. Another grass event would be awesome as would a tournament in S. America (very needed).
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
A MS1000/WTA Premier "fifth major" (sorry, sureshs Cinci-lover) in Orlando at an even more remote location??? Puhleeze! It would be gone in five years, just like the U.S. Clay Court Championship.

I like the idea of a grass event to replace it but where at that time of year???
Australia :D ;)
 
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Nathaniel_Near

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What do you mean? I am comparing continent to continent.

Yeah but let's face it, this started earlier as USA vs Europe and any future replacement event is likely to be in the USA yet again, and not Canada, Mexico, Greenland or the West Indies. South America need a top level event. Canada tagging along adds a masters to the NA roster but it's really the USA show and they've got enough.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Now knowing from experience how humid it is in Florida, I couldn't imagine playing high level tennis in this humidity.
 

Krish872007

Talk Tennis Guru
LOL come on man. UK already has Wimbledon AND the YEC.

LOL indeed. We are a greedy lot. I remember playing grass tennis in my youth in Singapore - if the ATP tour can survive the conditions there, it might be worth setting up a Masters tournament there - bring Asia more into the picture and all. Would defo need a roof though.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Now knowing from experience how humid it is in Florida, I couldn't imagine playing high level tennis in this humidity.
NYC at USO time is often worse. Look at all the cramping that happened in September this year. Having lived in both places, I can testify to that.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Don't forget the WTF also.

But if you are looking at Europe, then compare it continent to continent, not continent to one country. N America has four masters.
True that, but it's four and one vs four, two and the exho in London in November, yo!:p
 
Halle Masters.
Actually it'd be even better to keep Halle/London and Stuttgart as is before Wimby, and have grass MS1000 in Hamburg after Wimby. Then the grass season would be as long as it should. IMO they should just dump the European summer clay season as there's already the South-American clay season AND spring European clay season!
 
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