Monte-Carlo Masters 2023 QF: Lorenzo Musetti vs Jannik Sinner

Who wins?

  • Musetti in 2

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Musetti in 3

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Sinner in 2

    Votes: 14 56.0%
  • Sinner in 3

    Votes: 6 24.0%

  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .

dking68

Legend
Did you also catch the Rune-Medvedev match? Sinner is my favorite for tmr, but I don't think Rune is that far behind. But yeah, let's call Sinner a top-5 contender.
Nah I didn’t but I figured Medvedev would hit the wall physically and lose. But I pick Sinner because he’s already match prepped returning Serve as he played a big server in that of Hurkacz. So I’m gonna be bold and pick Sinner in 2 over Rune tomorrow
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Oh and @Chanwan the 4 losses for sinner on clay, he was injured with foot blisters and a retirement due to knee injury to Rublev (where he had his best chance to make his maiden GS final)
You're sounding like a Rafa-fan (Sinner only loses when injured). When you lose in the 4th, you're not quite in the final yet. Anyhow, plenty of time for him to have a great clay season.
 

dking68

Legend
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You're sounding like a Rafa-fan (Sinner only loses when injured). When you lose in the 4th, you're not quite in the final yet. Anyhow, plenty of time for him to have a great clay season.
I know but he was the best player in that half of the draw and he was tearing Rublev apart before that knee injury. Best player once Tsitsipas had lost to Rune
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic played out of his skin. The fact that Sinner beat Musetti easily means that he would have beaten Djokovic in straight sets.
Agree that Djokovic really wanted the win. But his serve & forehand speed was way below his own average and he made a lot more unforced errors than he usually does. For those reasons, yeah - I think Sinner would have won in 2 as well
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic was seemingly left red-faced after suggesting he can ‘choose’ at which tournaments he plays to his best ability. The Serb insisted he does not need to play ‘intensively’ at most tournaments in order to be at his best whenever he needs to be.

"I don't even have to be in a lot of tournaments anymore where I participate intensively, like some of the younger guys are doing now," the seven-time Wimbledon champion said.

"I choose where I participate and in which tournaments I want to be in top form. The Grand Slams are the tournaments where I want it and Roland Garros is next. It's no secret, I want to play my best tennis there."

Djokovic was slightly more pragmatic after staggering past Gakhov. He revealed that he struggles most to adapt to clay out of any other surface and says he requires more matches to get back up to speed with the other players on tour, who he now insists will find it ‘easier’.


Pride before a fall
 
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Rattie

Legend
Djokovic was seemingly left red-faced after suggesting he can ‘choose’ at which tournaments he plays to his best ability. The Serb insisted he does not need to play ‘intensively’ at most tournaments in order to be at his best whenever he needs to be.

"I don't even have to be in a lot of tournaments anymore where I participate intensively, like some of the younger guys are doing now," the seven-time Wimbledon champion said.

"I choose where I participate and in which tournaments I want to be in top form. The Grand Slams are the tournaments where I want it and Roland Garros is next. It's no secret, I want to play my best tennis there."

Djokovic was slightly more pragmatic after staggering past Gakhov. He revealed that he struggles most to adapt to clay out of any other surface and says he requires more matches to get back up to speed with the other players on tour, who he now insists will find it ‘easier’.


Pride before a fall
How humble of him lol
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic was seemingly left red-faced after suggesting he can ‘choose’ at which tournaments he plays to his best ability. The Serb insisted he does not need to play ‘intensively’ at most tournaments in order to be at his best whenever he needs to be.

"I don't even have to be in a lot of tournaments anymore where I participate intensively, like some of the younger guys are doing now," the seven-time Wimbledon champion said.

"I choose where I participate and in which tournaments I want to be in top form. The Grand Slams are the tournaments where I want it and Roland Garros is next. It's no secret, I want to play my best tennis there."

Djokovic was slightly more pragmatic after staggering past Gakhov. He revealed that he struggles most to adapt to clay out of any other surface and says he requires more matches to get back up to speed with the other players on tour, who he now insists will find it ‘easier’.


Pride before a fall
Almost sounds as if he has access to a magic potion. Almost
 

chuckersthenut

Hall of Fame
Just watched the highlights.
Does anybody know if Jannik had plans after this match?
Because he was playing like he had a dinner date. Winner winner. Everything Lorenzo did Jannik through back with even more effortless pace.
Never seen Sinner with that look on his face. Even the handshake it looked like Sinner was rushing. He's practically over the net to shake musettis hand. How do you hit a winner on a handshake? I don't know but Jannik did it.
 

Baseline_Bungle

Hall of Fame
Hey, sorry 4 the late reply. Was out all day and even struggled to follow the match...


O dio, another Italian derby. Normally I would put Sinner down as a heavy favorite...
Always trust your first instinct.

Great post. I was wondering what the head 2 head was between them. Did they play a lot of previous matches against one another in juniors? They both look so young in that video, especially Sinner.
Nope, I believe that Rome match was actually the first time they stepped foot on the same court. They did play in a few of the same junior tournaments in 2017, which turned out to be Sinner's final year of playing any juniors at all, while Musetti was just getting started. But they never actually crossed paths or even trained together, as far as I know.

Musetti went the "traditional" Italian route, playing (and dominating) in national competitions starting basically as a toddler, then some Tennis Europe for U14 and finally the junior ITF tour, where he famously rose to world number 1 after winning the Australian Open. He was always "the chosen one", the brightest star in a country that is usually loaded with interesting prospects (most of whom, inevitably, fizzle away or burn out).

Sinner on the other hand was basically this German boy up in the mountains that nobody in the tennis community had ever heard of until age 13. Before that time, he was mostly involved in junior skiing, ranking near the very top of his class in giant slalom and Super-G. Then he committed to tennis, but continued to operate mostly outside the purview of the Italian federation (and perhaps, that may have been his saving grace...). In 2015 he moved to Piatti's academy in Bordighera, began training intensively for the first time in his life, and at 16 dove straight into futures. His junior career was virtually non-existent - never even played a single junior slam, which is unheard of in this day and age.

And I love the "benzinaio" nickname! Do you know where it comes from? Did you come up with it? It just seems so perfect for him.
That nickname came up in the Italian tennis forums around the time of his landmark Bergamo win, when his red/yellow/gray Head kit with the red cap made him look like a 1980s gas station attendant for AGIP (Italy's national oil company, now known as ENI). It also seemed fitting because there was definitely some serious benzina hiding in that scrawny, skin-and-bones figure...



Any relation between Andrea Basso and Ivan Basso? Or maybe Alcide Basso (the bike builder)?

No relation between any of them, even though Alcide Basso is the brother of Marino Basso, who was himself a world class cyclist back in the 70s.

Tennis Basso proceeded to push Cilic to a 7-5 set in that first round, before fading back into low ITF oblivion.
 

dking68

Legend
Hey, sorry 4 the late reply. Was out all day and even struggled to follow the match...



Always trust your first instinct.


Nope, I believe that Rome match was actually the first time they stepped foot on the same court. They did play in a few of the same junior tournaments in 2017, which turned out to be Sinner's final year of playing any juniors at all, while Musetti was just getting started. But they never actually crossed paths or even trained together, as far as I know.

Musetti went the "traditional" Italian route, playing (and dominating) in national competitions starting basically as a toddler, then some Tennis Europe for U14 and finally the junior ITF tour, where he famously rose to world number 1 after winning the Australian Open. He was always "the chosen one", the brightest star in a country that is historically

Sinner on the other hand was basically this German boy up in the mountains that nobody in the tennis community had ever heard of until age 13. Before that time, he was mostly involved in junior skiing, ranking near the very top of his class in giant slalom and Super-G. Then he committed to tennis, but continued to operate mostly outside the purview of the Italian federation (and dare I say, that may have been his saving grace...). In 2015 he moved to Piatti's academy in Bordighera, began training intensively for the first time in his life, and at 16 dove straight into futures. His junior career was virtually non-existent - never even played a single junior slam, which is virtually unheard of in this day and age.


That nickname came up in the Italian tennis forums around the time of his landmark Bergamo win, when his red/yellow/gray Head kit with the red cap made him look like a 1980s gas station attendant for AGIP (Italy's national oil company, now known as ENI). It also seemed fitting because there was definitely some serious benzina hiding in that scrawny, skin-and-bones figure...





No relation between any of them, even though Alcide Basso is the brother of Marino Basso, who was himself a world class cyclist back in the 70s.

Tennis Basso proceeded to push Cilic to a 7-5 set in that first round, before fading back into low ITF oblivion.
Will Sinner win Rome?
 
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