most powerful syn gut???

rxblitzrx

Rookie
I've heard that Prince Original Syn Gut and Gosen OG Sheep are very low powered strings.

Can anyone recommend a high power Syn Gut?

and how does it compare (power wise) to Prince Syn Gut Duraflex?
 

jim e

Legend
Have you thought of switching to a multifilament type string, as that would give you a little more zip.
If you want a synth. gut, prince lighteningxx is very popular for the girls that are looking for more power, and they seem to like that very much.
 
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PROTENNIS63

Hall of Fame
From personal experience, Forten Sweet and Pro Supex Synthetic Gut Titan are some of the more powerful synthetic guts.
 

rxblitzrx

Rookie
Have you thought of switching to a multifilament type string, as that would give you a little more zip.
If you want a synth. gut, prince lighteningxx is very popular for the girls that are looking for more power, and they seem to like that very much.

I'm using X1-Biphase but I was trying to find a cheaper string that will offer the same amount of power. I can live with the way PSGD plays and feels, but I feel that it's underpowered on my racquet.
 

jim e

Legend
who makes pro supex? nm. tennis warehouse just doesn't carry it.

You can get them from stringsdepotplus. They have a web address with the same name.Thet are very nice to deal with.Their multi. string maxim touch is a good and cheaper priced multi. as well. If you order you may wish to try a set of that. If you are a USRSA member, and place a large order the price drops even more,(their wholesale pricing), which may be worth while if you try and decide that you like them.
 
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maui boy

New User
Head PPS and Pro Supex Spiral Flex are good cheap options. You will have to string often. Gosen and PSGD are more on the crisper side -- as a result less power.

Babolat VS Team 17* Gut 1.26 102 8.45
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 17** Multi 1.28 192 10.12
Head Synthetic Gut PPS 17 Nylon 1.22 190 11.38
Pro Supex Spiral Flex 16 Nylon 1.28 195 14.80
Gosen OG Sheep Micro 17 Nylon 1.24 199 12.35
Prince Synthetic Gut 17 w/Duraflex Nylon 1.26 212 10.69
 

rxblitzrx

Rookie
Head PPS and Pro Supex Spiral Flex are good cheap options. You will have to string often. Gosen and PSGD are more on the crisper side -- as a result less power.

Babolat VS Team 17* Gut 1.26 102 8.45
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 17** Multi 1.28 192 10.12
Head Synthetic Gut PPS 17 Nylon 1.22 190 11.38
Pro Supex Spiral Flex 16 Nylon 1.28 195 14.80
Gosen OG Sheep Micro 17 Nylon 1.24 199 12.35
Prince Synthetic Gut 17 w/Duraflex Nylon 1.26 212 10.69


What do the numbers mean and where can I see a comprehensive chart?
 

Nate7-5

Hall of Fame
Dont you think there are much better ways to get an answer to your question than bumping 3 dead threads that are 12 years old? This kind of thing is getting tiring on this forum.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
Dont you think there are much better ways to get an answer to your question than bumping 3 dead threads that are 12 years old?
um, no actually. when i post a question onto a new thread people tell me to 'use search its be discussed before'. then when i post the question on an old thread people tell me 'omg revived such an old thread'. so either way i get silenced and i don't get to ask my question. what you can do though is not be a smartass and just ignore the thread altogether but no you choose to come and ask an insipid question such as above. but to answer it, no. i do not think there are much better ways actually. thats why i did it. you don't think i thought of 'better ways' beforehand already? smh
 

big ted

Legend
i think the most powerful synthetic strings are multifilaments like babolat xcel or alpha gut 2000 to name a couple..
 

AceyMan

Professional
+1 for Forten Sweet.

Tension for tension it's more springy than OGSM, PSGD, etc. But it takes tension quite well, so you can firm it up fairly high (27+kg) and it doesn't get boardy.

it's a nice, versatile string. I've only played the gold. I am going to get some white sets next time I need supplies, I want to check what differences they have.

/Acey
 

beepee1972

Semi-Pro
Pretty powerful in my opinion (and very affordable) is Kirschbaum Synthetic Gut premium - for as long as it lasts.......
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Pretty powerful in my opinion (and very affordable) is Kirschbaum Synthetic Gut premium - for as long as it lasts.......

All of Kirschbaum's synthetic guts seemed to disappear a year or two ago. I assumed that they completely quit on producing them. Quite the bummer for me because that string - the standard syn. gut, not the premium - had earned the top spot among my all-time favorites.

Have you found anybody who is selling it?
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
Gosen Micro is one of the best inexpensive synthetic gut strings IMO and 44 bucks for a reel of 660 ft. Definitely a great price point.
 

beepee1972

Semi-Pro
All of Kirschbaum's synthetic guts seemed to disappear a year or two ago. I assumed that they completely quit on producing them. Quite the bummer for me because that string - the standard syn. gut, not the premium - had earned the top spot among my all-time favorites.

Have you found anybody who is selling it?

Dropped you a message
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
The answer can easily be found at the Twu string database. Furthermore, the softer ones strings the sgut the more power it would give but you might not like the resulting fishingnet. Therefore better use it in a hybrid.
 

mctennis

Legend
All of Kirschbaum's synthetic guts seemed to disappear a year or two ago. I assumed that they completely quit on producing them. Quite the bummer for me because that string - the standard syn. gut, not the premium - had earned the top spot among my all-time favorites.

Have you found anybody who is selling it?

It seems these string companies always get rid of a great product to bring out one that is " better" yet it normally NEVER is better. WHY do they do this?
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
It seems these string companies always get rid of a great product to bring out one that is " better" yet it normally NEVER is better. WHY do they do this?

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when discussions at HQ weigh these decisions. I got excited to try Kirschbaum's Premium syn. gut after finding such spectacular results with their standard version... but the ride with the Premium didn't justify the significantly higher cost (almost double if I recall). They were nearly the same for me.

There must be some sort of findings in the world of "market research" showing that if an item is relatively new, lots of folks will at least try it. Otherwise I'm as baffled as you. So many excellent products gain a toehold and then get replaced with an updated version that's just crap. This has become a cliche with shoes, right?
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
for power to do I prioritize lower stiffness or higher energy return%?
Low stiffnes and energy return both contribute to the impuls you give to the ball. I believe when strings have same energy return but one of them is eg 10% less stiffer than the other than that results in 5 % more energy return relative to the other. Just read twu info on this topic. You can imagine the stiffer a stringbed the less it deflects the more the bouncing tennisball has to deflect which makes it a more inelastic collision as you might remember from high school physics. Its like playing squash. The squash ball becomes hot during play. This is wasted energy.
 

Arak

Legend
for power to do I prioritize lower stiffness or higher energy return%?
Energy return. Most powerful synthetic strings will be at 93-94%. Gut around 95-97%.

Stiffness will give you an idea about comfort and dwelling time.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
september
All of Kirschbaum's synthetic guts seemed to disappear a year or two ago. I assumed that they completely quit on producing them. Quite the bummer for me because that string - the standard syn. gut, not the premium - had earned the top spot among my all-time favorites.

Have you found anybody who is selling it?
Kirschbaumusa Strings & Grips <info@kirschbaumusa.com>
To: (d-quik)@yahoo.ca


Mon., Sep. 7 at 2:39 a.m.


(d-quik):

We are expecting to teceive the Synthetic gut reels 130 by end of September. Please contact us by then

Thanks

KIRSCHBAUM TEAM
El dom., 6 de septiembre de 2020 22:53, Kirschbaum Strings &amp; Grips <info@kirschbaumusa.com> escribió:
what happened to kirschebaum's synthetic gut and premium synthetic gut? those were so good but it is no longer produced or did the name change or what?
 

mctennis

Legend
This has become a cliche with shoes, right?
You are so right. Especially with shoes. These shoe manufacturers seem to crank out " new and better" versions of the shoe that so many people love. They narrow or widen the toe area, stiffen the forefoot area, make the heel stiff as a board, load it up with even more plastic that never lets your foot breath. But look at the new color choices, awwww. They come out with new versions every major tournament or so.
PLEASE shoe manufacturers, leave a good shoe alone!!!!!
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
septemberKirschbaumusa Strings & Grips <info@kirschbaumusa.com>
To: (d-quik)@yahoo.ca


Mon., Sep. 7 at 2:39 a.m.


(d-quik):

We are expecting to teceive the Synthetic gut reels 130 by end of September. Please contact us by then

Thanks

KIRSCHBAUM TEAM
El dom., 6 de septiembre de 2020 22:53, Kirschbaum Strings &amp; Grips <info@kirschbaumusa.com> escribió:

Holy Dang!!!

Thanks for your update. I can hopefully hold off on buying a pile of this and that until the reinforcements arrive (y)
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
youre welcome but can you tell us what you think of the power of this string compared to other synthetic guts?

As with any other string, this SG really has a "Goldilocks zone" for me where it feels nice and punchy without being harsh. In my Volkl C10's and weighted O10's, that's usually 57-58 lbs. Plenty powerful. If there's anything else with more liveliness to it, I don't want it. While multifibers generally play a bit softer than syn. guts, this string from Kirschbaum has the moderate softness I want without steadily losing its firmness as I play it. Multis seem to be too susceptible to that and since they're also usually a good bit more expensive, they really don't have a whole lot to offer me.

Gosen OGSM seems to be mildly less powerful, but I haven't done any sort of comparison lately - no side by side test.
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
I found the Original Prince Synthetic Gut to be one of the more livelier syn guts on the market. I have been using Gosen Micro for a while which is also lively but the Prince Original is a little crisper and has a little more pop IMO.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
how does it compare to prince lightning xx, prince lightning pro, or tourna quasi-gut armor?

Honestly can't recall ever trying Prince Lightning.

Tourna strings are actually on my radar and I'm probably going to sample some Armor; syn. gut as well as multi (quasi-gut). If I've ever tried that multi, it was too long ago for me to remember anything about it.
 
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