Fed played Nadal in slams 5 times from 2005 to 2007. That's more times than Pete played Andre from 1993 to 1999.
Actually, Nole's biggest rival at his peak was 30+ year old Fed, not Nadal.
Lol first, that does not change what I said: Fed played Roddick more from 03 to 07 than anyone else, including Nadal.
Well, that's because Fed played Nadal only in 2005-2007, so of course he played Roddick more times. Still, he played Roddick 6 times and Nadal 5 times. Negligible difference.Lol first, that does not change what I said: Fed played Roddick more from 03 to 07 than anyone else, including Nadal.
And you also forgot that Pete played Becker, Courier, Lendl, Edberg etc. Nice try
Murray reached 11 slam finals, spanning 2008-2016, won 10+ masters titles, 2 Olympics gold and defeated Djokovic + Federer at slams.
I try to reason but it turns out you have to pull up these stats to make any sort of leeway.Murray reached 11 slam finals, spanning 2008-2016, won 10+ masters titles, 2 Olympics gold and defeated Djokovic + Federer at slams.
Hewitt (finished after 2005 aged 24), 04-05 Agassi, Roddick have 0 slam wins over Federer and only 1 over Djokovic
Lol you LMAO at bringing up Lendl but say I should be mentioning Old, Limping, barely moving, ancient Backassi? LMAO!!!Well, that's because Fed played Nadal only in 2005-2007, so of course he played Roddick more times. Still, he played Roddick 6 times and Nadal 5 times. Negligible difference.
Becker was obviously not the Becker of old when Pete played him, Courier was done after 1994 and LMAO at Lendl and Edberg.
Pete did have nice competition up to about 1995. Latter half of the 90’s was absolutely feeble, though. ‘98 in particular was kinda sukk.Well, that's because Fed played Nadal only in 2005-2007, so of course he played Roddick more times. Still, he played Roddick 6 times and Nadal 5 times. Negligible difference.
Becker was obviously not the Becker of old when Pete played him, Courier was done after 1994 and LMAO at Lendl and Edberg.
Murray has a better career than Hewitt & Roddick combined. I would not compare them as opponents
lmao, '06
This isn’t a bad call, Pete’s argument is the sheer amount of surface specialists and diversity in the 90s. Novak’s is facing 2 ATGs + Murray his entire career.
I could see one placing Petros/Novak on equal footing, competition wise. My only comment would be that the differences in surfaces of the 90s, plus fast court tennis in general is not conducive to the type of day in, day out dominance that slower court tennis allows, not to mention modern medicine as well.
Well, Federer also dealt with peak Djokovic more than Nadal did.
I know, just laughing at him using Edberg and Lendl. Mid 30's Agassi was more relevant than Lendl and Fed played Roddick more times in majors than Pete played Edberg in 1993 onwards.
The gen between Pete and Fed
Old, Limping, barely moving, ancient Backassi was still more relevant than Lendl who reached no more slam semis after age 31
True. That would be the likes of Kuerten and Rafter, wouldn't it?
Rafter is only a year younger than Pete but Rios, Henman, Philippousis and so on and so on
The previous lost gen before the actual lost gen: T. Johansson, Moya, Kuerten, Phillippoussis, Haas, Blake and Ljubicic.
Stan destroyed both Federer and Djokovic to win at RG.... has further wins over Djokovic and Nadal
Stan destroyed both Federer and Djokovic to win at RG.... has further wins over Djokovic and Nadal
Del Potro could never pose any slam threat to Djokovic... but he defeated Fed in 2009 and 2017
He didn't have the luxury of James Blake or Ginepri to look forward to in slam quarters or semis that yearOld, Limping, barely moving, ancient Backassi was still more relevant than Lendl who reached no more slam semis after age 31
Well, he didn't reach those stages anymore after age 32He didn't have the luxury of James Blake or Ginepri to look forward to in slam quarters or semis that year
Hard to have your last hoorah when you have to play Pete in r16. Little different from Blake and Ginepri in quarters/semisWell, he didn't reach those stages anymore after age 32
To be fair, I think Fed used Del Po to enable, "Rodger the Dodger" mode in '17 to escape Rafa. His enslavement to the Nadal would have been an unceasing meme had he played and been dominated by him that year at the Open. Like literally every other post would be a meme on it.Del Potro could never pose any slam threat to Djokovic... but he defeated Fed in 2009 and 2017
Yeah... but then 40-15 happened again and his legacy is defined by that now instead
If anything, that year Rafa was fortunate that Fed's form had dropped by the USO.
