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Same with most the weak era nonsense.
Still, the proof is there. 4 times they met, and 4 times Nadal lost.
Nadal had the weakest competition out of any player in history
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Still, the proof is there. 4 times they met, and 4 times Nadal lost.
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The 4th time was against an injured Nadal. The other 3 times showed an improved version of Federer against Nadal.
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I guess Agassi improved at age 30-35 too then.
mike danny
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Ridiculous excuses. Nadal was 30 years old, while Federer was 35 who had also played two 5 setters before the final. Nadal being tired against a 35 year old is the most ridiculous excuse ever. Especially since he was up a break in the 5th set. All of a sudden titedness becomes a factor because Nadal lost. Rafa got beaten fair and square by a 35 year old, deal with it.Fisrt, AO Nadal was also geriatric, out of his prime and in his 30s. Importantly, Nadal had one day less to rest and a much larger SF of 5 hours.
Second, Nadal was injured in the Shanghai final. He got injured against Cilic in the SF and was wearing a bandage in the knee in the final (which was played on indoor due to rain):
Nadal had to withdrawn from Basel after Shanghai due to his injury.
“I sadly announce that I have to pull out of the Swiss Indoors Basel, after seeing my doctor in Spain just after landing from Shanghai,”
“I am suffering from an overstressing of the knee and the problems where already present at the tournament in Shanghai" -Nadal
Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ws-from-basel-with-knee-problem-idUSKBN1CN0BH
Nadal continued with his knee injury in Paris Bercy and the WTF.
As for Shanghai, Nadal wasn't winning the final anyway so why are you so fixated on Nadal's injury?
junior74
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Fisrt, AO Nadal was also geriatric, out of his prime and in his 30s. Importantly, Nadal had one day less to rest and a much larger SF of 5 hours.
This image is actually spot on: It's Nadal's own fault that his matches are long. I read an article saying Djokodal's "best final ever" at AO would have been seventy - 70 - minutes shorter, had they both served within the allowed 20 seconds... Rafa tries to slow down play as much as possible with his "routines".
mike danny
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The 4th time would have still been a Federer win anyway. Hilarious that you think a healthy Nadal was beating that Federer on a fast court.
True-LOL! Who then, in you humble opinion, had the toughest competition? Somehow, I think I can guess.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
RAFA is known for his success at Shanghai.
Tennis_Hands
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The D stands for "delusional"?
Then why is it only "slightly"?
Then why is it only "slightly"?
tennis_pro
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Poor Nadal. Unlike peak 2012/2014 AO Federer.
LMAO Fed in his mid 20s would make mincemeat out of Nadal in his 30s. Nadal can't even beat 70-year old Federer when he's in his 30s. Number of wins for Nadal over Federer in the last 4,5 years: 0.
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Rafa's OCD
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Druss
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Agassi at 30-35 (2000-2005) was playing just as well or perhaps marginally below Federer's level at the same age.
Why do you say that as if those guys were Federer’s main competition?
You forgot Roddick, Hewitt, Agassi, Nalbandian, Safin etc.
Deon Sanders
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Only 6 real tennis titles one of which did not face a top 20 player
Says it all. Ned isnt a top 10 all time player
Says it all. Ned isnt a top 10 all time player
titoelcolombiano
Legend
Can we all just agree that Fedalovic had to beat each other for most of the slam that each of them won. There are very few players that have had to go through this to win slams and it made all of them better. The only period that is slightly (still not close) comprable is when Connors, Borg and Mac were going at it in the early 80's.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
I can beat OP's post for shortness in favour of the ned.This thread will not be as long as the other one, because the truth requires less space to shine.
Fed / Djokovic had the weakest competition:
2005-2007 off clay = babby nedl
2009-2016 = injured oldl
2017-present = swiss mafia and Wilson velvet blackshirts turning on AC and speeding up surfaces to benefit fedr
Nadal, Djokovic, Murray > Roddick, Hewitt, Agassi, Nalbandian, Safin
Fed faced all three for most of his mid 20s - 30s career and Murray isn’t above any of them for peak level.
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Druss
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Hahahahaha ....(laughter) is the best medicine.
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Andy Murray is about even with Lleyton Hewitt in terms of peak level.
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