Tennis Analyst
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GUESS WHAT??
NOW IT'S #22 in 2022.
ALWAYS HAVE FAITH IN GOATDAL.
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NADAL to cement his GOAT status by winning #19 in 2019 and #20 in 2020
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GUESS WHAT??
NOW IT'S #22 in 2022.
ALWAYS HAVE FAITH IN GOATDAL.
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G.O.A.T.
Good analysis @Tennis Analyst.
TheAssassin
Legend
Needs to be GOAT first before cementing that status. 
TennisHockey
Rookie
Some people believe that Federer has had it a bit easier.
Nadal has had to face Federer and/or Djokovic his entire career. But Federer was able to win many grand slams before Nadal/Djokovic came.
Not saying I necessarily agree with that, but I do think there is some merit to it.
Tennisgods
Hall of Fame
Don’t bother, their brains don’t work that well. Leave them be.
Rafa24
Hall of Fame
Fed has had it easier. He has a losing record to Nadal and Djoker in slams and piled a lot of slams against no competition while nadal and djoker were not prime.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Djoker is winning WC and USO back-to-back this year, then beats Nadal in the final of RG next year, then also defends Wimbledon for the maiden Channel Slam! Then wins olympic gold, but tanks US Open, which then Nadal wins instead! They both stay at 19 by the end of 2020 as some youngster picks up AO title in 2020 (my money is on Tsitsipas...) Here you heard it first here! Then Djoker reclaims AO crown in 2021 to be the first to tie with Federer, then nadal follows by winning 13th French to tie with both at 20 apiece, then Djokovic replies with Wimbledon victory to break Federer's record of 20 slams first, none of them wins US Open as we see first ever "true next-gen grand slam final"! In 2022 Djoker struggles in most grand slams, but manages to defend AO title for the last time, Nadal also struggles, but wins his last French Open! As a result Nadal edges Federer with 21, Djokovic finishes at 22 and is the ultimate GOAT! Wake me up from the cryosleep as we return back in 2022th summer to discuss this!...
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titoelcolombiano
Legend
Because distribution is irrelevent. Ask Laver and Sampras.
titoelcolombiano
Legend
I'm sure Djoker & Rafa would have loved to have a nice 12 slam head-start before the other two fully matured. It certainly makes a difference to the perception of Goathood.
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Bad example! Sampras has won 7 Wimbledons and 5 US Opens as well as winning 2 AO titles! That is balanced distribution across TWO surfaces of the three! Laver won 2 full calendar year grand slams...for that alone he can get away with any excuses as to towards his slam distribution...
Benjamin Rio
Professional
Of course it is in Nadal's case. He's only dominated on clay. He's never been able to defend a GS outside of clay.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
VaporDude95
Banned
Nadal has to have a GOAT status to cement. He doesn’t.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
If nadal wins this Wimbledon, it’s absolute huge for his legacy and the GOAT debate. He’d have at least 3 slams on clay, hard and grass. He’d be on 19 slams and will be almost certain he will overtake fed and he’d extend the gap with Djokovic too!
It’s a huge slam for all the big 3, if djokobwins he’d have 16 and back to within 2 of nadal and 4 behind fed, that would be closest he been to fed! Fed needs to win to fend off djoko and Rafa!
It’s between the 3 of them and these next 3 l-6 slams are gonna be so crucial
It’s a huge slam for all the big 3, if djokobwins he’d have 16 and back to within 2 of nadal and 4 behind fed, that would be closest he been to fed! Fed needs to win to fend off djoko and Rafa!
It’s between the 3 of them and these next 3 l-6 slams are gonna be so crucial
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
I mean, Nadal has 6 extra Masters and the gold medal (which is not super important but is roughly equivalent to a Masters)
Maybe those don't quite balance the 6 WTFs, but they make it close enough to have a discussion (If the slam tally were tied. Which is not the case.)
Maybe those don't quite balance the 6 WTFs, but they make it close enough to have a discussion (If the slam tally were tied. Which is not the case.)
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tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
That blue-collar player would be better working with actual cement, he already has all the ingredients - a lot of sand/clay and water (bottles).
N01E
Hall of Fame
*a title outside of clay
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
LOL is this your latest fantasy?
Didn't you say at the beginning of this year that Novak Djokovic was a dead cert to win the CYGS this year?
titoelcolombiano
Legend
So if Rafa wins the AO it's irrelevant.
Good to know
Yes, other than it being one slam closer to the record. The double career grand slam is a great achievement but it is a minor stat compared to number of slams won.
titoelcolombiano
Legend
And Fed hasn't defended one on clay. What's your point?
Benjamin Rio
Professional
Euh....u are comparing the guy that has been able to defend a GS title at the AO Wimb Us open and WTF to a guy who has never been able o do so?
Benjamin Rio
Professional
Mainly on clay. Clay goat nothing more nothing less.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
Might want to let the cement dry first.
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Nadal will eventually get to 22 Grand Slams. How many the other two will have when all is said and done is yet to be determined too but I think Federer isn't going to win any more Grand Slams, and Djokovic will win another 5 or 6...
Nadal beat 1 top 8 player to win his gold medal. Federer beat 29 top 8 players to win his 6 WTF’s
titoelcolombiano
Legend
Clay GOAT, nothing more, nothing less that happens to be the only one of the three to have won multiple slams on all three surfaces
titoelcolombiano
Legend
The only grand slam that Federer has defended once competition showed up was the AO in 2018. That's it.... just once.
Benjamin Rio
Professional
Of course tennis only started in 2008. Laver Rosewall Borg Mcenroe Agassi Sampras Federer they were all rubbish. Fit Nadal is the absolute GOAT when he shows up.
Benjamin Rio
Professional
12/18 GS = FO
25/34 MS 1000 = clay
Federer's 19 grass court = Nadal's total on HC
0 WTF
0 GS title on rebound ace. He only won GS titles on HC in slow conditions.
0 defending a GS title outside of clay
0 defending a MS1000 title outside of clay
Most weeks as number 2 behind Fed and Novak.
Lack of consistency in GS many early round losses to random player.
Can never be GOAT.
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Only clay goat
He has only won 6 slams outside French and far less than fed or Djoker
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Deleted member 307496
Guest
There's been no competition for years you dunce, or do you forget about 2014 til today?
Benjamin Rio
Professional
I don't think so.
People will remember Nadal as the FO king.....while his record last as we've seen in the past. Armstrong had won 7 tour de France and they were taken away from him.
SamprasisGOAT
Hall of Fame
Spot on. And with the story’s about operation puerto nadal will end up way down the list.
While I think Nadal is the best player on the slow hard courts at the USO, he has had too much trouble finishing hardcourt tournaments lately to give him more than like a 30% chance there going forward. He needs to avoid long matches like he had against Karen and Thiem last year to stay healthy there.
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Can I take the long odds on the clear underdog Djokovic?
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