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These shoes are not a SU release.
Chris from TW said to look for them this summer. But the end of "summer" here in the US may is close to the FALL Nike release. So it could be either lolAre they a fall release?
I’ve seen people give the name with Air Max as well. Is it a Air Max and Zoom combo? Or only Zoom
The Lunar Ballistecs 1.5's were in the $165 range. If these are going to be considered their top of the line shoes I would anticipate them more in that price range.They confirmed that it will be full length zoom: http://footwearnews.com/2018/focus/...s-shoes-bnp-paribas-open-indian-wells-518416/
Can't imagine the $130 mentioned price point holds with full length zoom, but fingers crossed.
The Lunar Ballistecs 1.5's were in the $165 range. If these are going to be considered their top of the line shoes I would anticipate them more in that price range.
Someone here stated they had seen a catalog with $130 as the price point. We shall see. And I can see Nike repositioning the Vapor as the highest priced shoe.
Not seeing it.
The Vapor line has generally always been Nike's light, fast, gameday shoe line. If you look the shoe companies they all generally have these shoes in their line :
1. Premium, top of the line, high end stability, support & cushioning line
2. Lightweight, fast match day shoe
3. Economical, mid-range shoe
So for example :
Adidas :
1. Barricade/Barricade Boost line - $140-$160
2. Ubersonic line - $125
3. Defiant Bounce/Barricade Club - $80-$100
Asics :
1. Gel Resolution/New Gel FF lines - $130-$170
2. Gel Solution Speed line - $120-$130
3. Gel Challenger/Court Speed line - $80-$100
Babolat :
1. Propulse line - $120-$140
2. Jet Line - $110-$140
3. SFX line - $85-$100
So the Nike line goes like this :
1. Lunar Ballistec (Discontinued, probably soon to be Zoom Air Zero) - $165-$180
2. Air Vapor line - $140
3. Air Cage line - $130
3. Air Zoom Ultra/Air Zoom Prestige/Resistance lines - $80-$100
They have the Epic React line but that looks DOA. Unless they plan on replacing the Cage 3 with the Zeros they probably won't be $130, otherwise they occupy the same exact space as the Cage 3's. I've never known Nike to be CHEAPER than it's competitors for their premium lines.
Competitor to the Vapor line has always been the Solution Speed, Ubersonic & Jet lines.
Not arguing with you, but $130 would put it at the market price of the Resolution. We shall see.
Air Zoom Challenge II from 1997 had full length Zoom Air. But they were probably making a technicality with the NikeCourt brand name, which is true there has been no full length since the NikeCourt thing started (although the React had separate forefoot pods). I'm excited, all my favorite Nikes have had full length zoom: AZC II, Talaria, All Out Low, etc.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tcsparks/5237302812/in/dateposted-public/
Sorry for being ignorant, what did the BFII have? I loved that shoe. Also loved the early cages.
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It seems to me that even Nike Air Oscillate and air court Motion (Hewitt Us Open 2001) have full-length zoom air.
In terms of styling and tooling this shoe looks like a straight rip of the Nike "Air Infuriate" and Nike "Run the One" basketball models mashed into one shoe. These are old Nike basketball shoe models from a few years ago but they were EXCELLENT shoes in terms of performance and cosmetics and they performed well at quite a low pricepoint but they used phylon for the cushioning rather than new React technologies.
It will be interesting to see if Nike thinks it can get away with a very similar shoe priced much higher for the tennis market after adding the latest version of react cushioning.
Could be the first decent cushioning / tooling in a tennis market Nike shoe for quite a while. The react technology is already in a few Nike shoes in different markets and is pretty amazing. Depending on the way the carrier is designed the impact protection is great.
I urge people to look into Nike's other product segments. It's fascinating to see how long it takes all the product advancements and technologies they have to trickle down into their tennis lines. Tennis consumers are treated like second class citizens.
It seems to me that even Nike Air Oscillate and air court Motion (Hewitt Us Open 2001) have full-length zoom air.
@Fanman seems to confirm the $130 price point here. https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/nike-air-zoom-zero-sock-tiafoe-new-shoe.614077/
A lot of the old tennis shoes had Nike Air, their regular version of airbags/cushioning back then. "Zoom" air has those nylon threads that go through them that supposedly make it more stable than the traditional Nike air. An advance as large traditional air bags were seen as unstable/squishy & why Nike went away from them in their tennis shoes (along with durability issues). The new retro Oscillates that they brought back had Zoom Air in the rear.
Let's hope. Although I've never seen a price DROP for Nike's premium shoes. It seems to leave a gaping hole in Nike's product line as it pretty much puts all of Nike's shoes within $5-$10 of each other. You pretty much have the Vapor X, the Cage 3 & now this all similarly priced. I guess they can claim the Ultra React line as their premium line, but that shoe seems pretty much DOA.
Air Zoom Beyond had full length visible Zoom Air, no? That shoe should be retroed. Agassi's most dominant time (1999, although they came out at the end of 1998, maybe Holdiday?).
Seem to be correct: http://www.socimage.net/media/1408379637070983880_1502979862
Why? Delpo and Dimi are both superstitious af and wearing old models that they refuse to change from. They already have Sock and Tiafoe rocking them.Does anyone know what will be the first colors? Thanks
It is rumored that maybe even Dimitrov or Del Potro could wear Zoom Zero from August onwards.
Air Zoom Beyond had full length visible Zoom Air, no? That shoe should be retroed. Agassi's most dominant time (1999, although they came out at the end of 1998, maybe Holdiday?).
They need to release these already.